snakehips 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 We are discussing the problems (perceived or fact) of Dyer. We are discussing the faults/failings of Dalgeish. We NEED to fathom out what is required NOW. No doubt you have all read my incisive, well-thought-out, posts that what we need now is a striker With a striker, I reckon we can still get sufficient points to stay up. And staying up is our utmost priority - not ANY cup competion. Getting a striker is not going to be easy especially until January so whether we can get someone who is available (loan perhaps) is something I don't know. Is there a striker around who is almost finished but can act as target man for a few months for us? I'm not sure if getting rid of Roeder is the right way to go. As I have said in the past, any new manager is a real gamble and to get someone else in now could well be a wrong step. So, folks, what is your solution to our problems?? Realistic solutions. Team play, tactics, personnel ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 At the minute, I'd take Chris Sutton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 At the minute, I'd take Chris Sutton. Gemmill, is he available? Seriously. I fucking hate Sutton, but we need someone who takes no shit and causes defences problems. Whilst this target man does this, knock downs and scraps fall to other strikers eg Rossi or Martins or Dyer. We NEED a strong-willed target man who can put himself about and cause defenders problems. Plain and simple imo. I wish Sibierski had played on Sat as I would have been able to form an opinion, but as he didn't I can't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 No, he's at Villa, who may as well be Real Madrid when you compare them to our current plight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 We are desperate for someone who can play with his back to goal and hold the ball up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we are also desperate for Taylor and Rammage in the team. After the gutless display on Saturday and in the second half against Charlton, we need some players who would actually run their hearts out for the club instead of what we have now. Btw I thought Luque looked quite good when he came on. He should be given a run (as we've said loads of times before) in the starting 11 now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Taylor should be playing at right back instead of Carr, that's for certain. And that's on merit, not cos he's a geordie. He just looks a better bet than that cannonball-headed Odd-job looking twat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 DK, I thought Luque looked shit tbh. Some of his "challenges" for headers in which he positioned himself behind the defender and just jumped up in the air, safe in the knowledge that they were going to win the header were pathetic. He looked like I expected him to look - like someone who it is pointless trying to use as an impact substitution. We need to either take a major chance on him and give him a run in the starting line-up, or we give in altogether IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1199 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Shearer to come out of retirement to provide us with the target man? I would take anyone Who else is not tied to a contract? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Have no fear, Martins will be back next week putting his devastating pace to good effect by standing stock still next to his marker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9680 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Btw I thought Luque looked quite good when he came on. He should be given a run (as we've said loads of times before) in the starting 11 now. The most inappropriate bycicle kick I've ever seen tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 DK, I thought Luque looked shit tbh. Some of his "challenges" for headers in which he positioned himself behind the defender and just jumped up in the air, safe in the knowledge that they were going to win the header were pathetic. He looked like I expected him to look - like someone who it is pointless trying to use as an impact substitution. We need to either take a major chance on him and give him a run in the starting line-up, or we give in altogether IMO. That said, after scoring on Thursday, he deserved a start. Especially as Duff can't play through the middle, it would seem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 And we thought getting Duff for £5m was a bargain. On the evidence so far this season, we've been done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we're doon tbh. And we'll be in a worse state than Leeds as at least they had a few saleable assets. Hope I'm wrong like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ah whey, atleast it'll be fun travelling to Southend, Torquay, Swansea, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Milton Keynes, Milwall, Colchester, Leeds, Barnet, York, Chester, Darlington, Walsall, Peterborough, Bristol, Huddersfield, Crewe, Yeovil and Swindon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I thought Luque put in better challenges than either Duff (mind you he was wank) or Rossi. Mind you it all goes to show how inappropriate the service was to the front players the entire game when all they had to go for were challenges in the air against their 8ft centre half! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3342 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Has Keane fallen out with Yorke yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Pretty embarrassing but I would take John Hartson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21052 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we're doon tbh. And we'll be in a worse state than Leeds as at least they had a few saleable assets. Hope I'm wrong like. Our only chance is to change he manager and take a risk by splashing out on a class striker in January. Unfortunately everyone will know we're desperate for a striker and we're going to get shafted in the transfer market - again. Plus if it doesn't work out and we are relegated that's even more debt. The other option is to accept we are getting relegated and start trying to adapt for the championship now. Obviously this is a less preferred option, but I've had a worrying thought. If we are skint, will the banks lend us any more money knowing we will default if we are relegated? I wouldn't have thought so, so it might be very hard to get any other players or a manager in. If this is the case we are fucked, plain and simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ah whey, atleast it'll be fun travelling to Southend, Torquay, Swansea, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Milton Keynes, Milwall, Colchester, Leeds, Barnet, York, Chester, Darlington, Walsall, Peterborough, Bristol, Huddersfield, Crewe, Yeovil and Swindon. Scunthorpe Fuck off with your Huddersfields, they're shite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21052 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 Ah whey, atleast it'll be fun travelling to Southend, Torquay, Swansea, Blackpool, Bournemouth, Milton Keynes, Milwall, Colchester, Leeds, Barnet, York, Chester, Darlington, Walsall, Peterborough, Bristol, Huddersfield, Crewe, Yeovil and Swindon. Scunthorpe Fuck off with your Huddersfields, they're shite Could be the 3 NE teams in the Championship next year. We can still be top dogs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we have to get another manager in and hope we can get a boost for a few games to get the points in order to survive. You can call it a short term strategy as we are unlikely to get any manager who would be of the standard we're really after. But at this stage staying up has to be the priority of anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we have to get another manager in and hope we can get a boost for a few games to get the points in order to survive. You can call it a short term strategy as we are unlikely to get any manager who would be of the standard we're really after. But at this stage staying up has to be the priority of anything else. I think we're crying out for a director of football tbh. Roeder is clearly out of his depth, but sacking him just creates the same cycle of events we've seen time and time again. Bring someone in above him, which will hopefully eliminate the need for FS to get involved in team affairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted November 6, 2006 Share Posted November 6, 2006 I think we have to get another manager in and hope we can get a boost for a few games to get the points in order to survive. You can call it a short term strategy as we are unlikely to get any manager who would be of the standard we're really after. But at this stage staying up has to be the priority of anything else. I think we're crying out for a director of football tbh. Roeder is clearly out of his depth, but sacking him just creates the same cycle of events we've seen time and time again. Bring someone in above him, which will hopefully eliminate the need for FS to get involved in team affairs. I was working on the basis that even if the fat fuck had the intelligence to do that he would appoint some complete plank that would do nothing more than further undermine Roeder. I agree though if it were done right it would be an excellent move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted November 6, 2006 Author Share Posted November 6, 2006 Pretty embarrassing but I would take John Hartson. If you're fishing, then you've got me. That is exactly the type of striker we need NOW to keep us up. I don't like him, but he can score goals, hold the ball up and put himself about. Of course he is not the future of NUFC, and in any other circumstance I wouldn't have him anywhere near SJP but desperate times call for desperate measures. Maybe I am being foolish and overreacting, but I am just so fucking scared after witnessing that shit on Saturday that I'm considering desperate measures. Our midfield is reasonably good. Our defence is on a par with most of the mid-table, lower, clubs. But our striking options are bloody frightening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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