Baggio 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Isegrim calls me "Sir". I thought it was "Bitch"? You thought wrong, "Dickwad"! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I'd pick Emre over Parker every time. Parker is supposed to be the box to box midfielder yet he offers nothing going forward, has little ability with the ball at his feet but gets overhyped because he 'gets stuck in' Making him captain was a big mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Where is the relevance lacking? I just answered to the question. This was also in relation to the fact that I have had several disagreements with Baggio on here and on N-O (e.g. today) about the value of Emre for Newcastle as I think he is overall ineffective. What's unjustified with this. It's my opinion, that I think is backed up by the team performances and the results lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Where is the relevance lacking? I just answered to the question. This was also in relation to the fact that I have had several disagreements with Baggio on here and on N-O (e.g. today) about the value of Emre for Newcastle as I think he is overall ineffective. What's unjustified with this. It's my opinion, that I think is backed up by the team performances and the results lately. I don't think you can make Emre the scapegoat for our poor performances. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Where is the relevance lacking? I just answered to the question. This was also in relation to the fact that I have had several disagreements with Baggio on here and on N-O (e.g. today) about the value of Emre for Newcastle as I think he is overall ineffective. What's unjustified with this. It's my opinion, that I think is backed up by the team performances and the results lately. I don't think you can make Emre the scapegoat for our poor performances. Especially as he's been one of our better players this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Before you chuck him out, who are you going to get in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Before you chuck him out, who are you going to get in? Lee Carsley, he may have zero footballing ability but at least he gets stuck in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Where is the relevance lacking? I just answered to the question. This was also in relation to the fact that I have had several disagreements with Baggio on here and on N-O (e.g. today) about the value of Emre for Newcastle as I think he is overall ineffective. What's unjustified with this. It's my opinion, that I think is backed up by the team performances and the results lately. I don't think you can make Emre the scapegoat for our poor performances. I can, you see. He is in my opinion the reason why we don't create anything. I agree that Emre is theoretically a very talented player. But he isn't showing it. When going forward he is losing at least as much balls as he is winning. And he is supposed to be the better passer of the ball than Parker. His set-pieces are also totally crap. And he is also too hot-blooded and a liability when getting wound up. Today he wasted about two minutes by complaining about a deserved free kick for Diouf. Against Villa he was close to a sending off. Edited October 15, 2006 by Isegrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Roeder's an honest decent bloke - tends to admit it when he makes mistakes, unlike a certain ex-Newcastle manager. Well go do something about it then, you clueless moron. First stage in how to prove you aren't clueless is stop picking Bramble. Just like what happened with Boumsong - pretty much the only thing he's actually done to improve the defence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46064 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I think the complaints about Emre are perfectly valid tbh. Neat and tidy and undoubtedly a very talented footballer, but I always come away from the game wondering what he actually contributed to the team performance. I don't dislike him and I really want him to make his ability count, but he doesn't very often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Before you chuck him out, who are you going to get in? Lee Carsley, he may have zero footballing ability but at least he gets stuck in So, what else is Emre offering at the moment than getting stuck in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Sorry, but did Emre rape your mother or something? Or bad touch you? No, he is just a player I don't really rate and like. Is he related to you? Predictable and unjustified response. I rate him, it's true, but you slate him far more often and with far less relevence than I ever praise him. Where is the relevance lacking? I just answered to the question. This was also in relation to the fact that I have had several disagreements with Baggio on here and on N-O (e.g. today) about the value of Emre for Newcastle as I think he is overall ineffective. What's unjustified with this. It's my opinion, that I think is backed up by the team performances and the results lately. I don't think you can make Emre the scapegoat for our poor performances. I can, you see. He is in my opinion the reason why we don't create anything. I agree that Emre is theoretically a very talented player. But he isn't showing it. When going forward he is losing at least as much balls as he is winning. And he is supposed to be the better passer of the ball than Parker. His set-pieces are also totally crap. And he is also too hot-blooded and a liability when getting wound up. Today he wasted about two minuted by complaining about a deserved free kick for Diouf. Against Villa he was close to a sending off. I agree. Emre is talented, but isn't showing it enough. I think he's worked hard this season, has got his foot in and chased back and won the ball alot but he isn't offering that much. He passes far too often to the opposition when under no pressure and isn't creating and putting in killer balls for somebody like Martins to run onto. Like Isegrim says his set pieces have become a waste of time, the corners going nowhere and he isn't exactly banging the goals in, not that he's alone in that! And he is becoming dangerously petulent and bad tempered this season. When things are goign badly for the team he is increasingly comitting stupid and retaliatory fouls and looks like getting sent of near the end of very home game as well as the fact this temper thing meas he loses concentration for playing. But idon't think he's done any worse than others and hasn't been as bad as the defenders this season. But with his abilty he should be doign better than losing the ball alot and not creating much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46064 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 His protestations after the challenge on Diouf (contemptible as that little prick is) were ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Alright, Emre critics: What has Duff done? What has N'Zogbia done? What has Solano done? What has Milner done? What has Martins done? What has Bramble done? What has Taylor done? What has Moore done? What has Ramage done? What has Babayaro done? What has Ameobi done? I can go on if you like. The entire team is rotten because of the piss-poor foundations at the back. Emre does more than anyone else in the side, Parker possibly excluded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) His protestations after the challenge on Diouf (contemptible as that little prick is) were ridiculous. It was a waste of time and didn't help us at all. Yes Diouf is a diving, cheating, spitting little shit and his team are a collective bunch of cheating arsewipes but we needed to get on with the game and attack them to equalize, so arguing about one of the very few times we'd actully touched a Bolton player before the cunt hit the deck was stupid. I must say though, i don't know how a decent honest pro like Speed can stand being in a team of contemptable arseholes like that. Edited October 15, 2006 by Papa Lazaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jusoda Kid 1 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Emre's attitude is questionable to say the least. I have a feeling he'll be the type to check the thermometer before declaring himself fit for games when the winter kicks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Parker isn't a great captain tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Alright, Emre critics: What has Duff done? What has N'Zogbia done? What has Solano done? What has Milner done? What has Martins done? What has Bramble done? What has Taylor done? What has Moore done? What has Ramage done? What has Babayaro done? What has Ameobi done? I can go on if you like. The entire team is rotten because of the piss-poor foundations at the back. Emre does more than anyone else in the side, Parker possibly excluded. Midfield and strikers can't blame the defence for their own failings, thats a complete cop out. When we have the ball the mids and attackers can play football, our crap defence isn't stopping them. As for your examples, some are fair some are bollocks. Zog has been in and out and on as a sub, Nobby has been injured for ages (though poor when playing admitedly), Ramage has been played at LB where any man and his dog can see he should never be allowed near to again and Shola has scored about 6 goals despite being half crippled with a hip injury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Alright, Emre critics: What has Duff done? What has N'Zogbia done? What has Solano done? What has Milner done? What has Martins done? What has Bramble done? What has Taylor done? What has Moore done? What has Ramage done? What has Babayaro done? What has Ameobi done? I can go on if you like. The entire team is rotten because of the piss-poor foundations at the back. Emre does more than anyone else in the side, Parker possibly excluded. Well, I don't expect a donkey to win the the grand national. So much for listing the likes of Bramble et al. I expect a player playing close to his ability and his strength. And Emre is not doing this. Duff has not really done this as well, I agree. Although he looked alright today until he got moved to the right wing. N'Zogbia is at least taking on players and has shown his huge talent a couple of times this season again. I would play him ahead of Emre tbh. And don't get me started on Martins... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9906 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 His protestations after the challenge on Diouf (contemptible as that little prick is) were ridiculous. It was a waste of time and didn't help us at all. Yes Diouf is a diving, cheating, spitting little shit and his team are a collective bunch of cheating arsewipes but we needed to get on with the game and attack them to equalize, so arguing about one of the very few times we'd actully touched a Bolton player before the cunt hit the deck was stupid. I must say though, i don't know how a decent honest pro like Speed can stand being in a team of contemptable arseholes like that. To be fair, I don't think there was too much play-acting involved from the Bolton players and most free kicks justified. They were only always waiting until some Newcastle player came and clattered them with a rush challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46064 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 And don't get me started on Martins... Not looking good is it? Ten. Fucking. MILLION. Pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baggio 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Before you chuck him out, who are you going to get in? Lee Carsley, he may have zero footballing ability but at least he gets stuck in So, what else is Emre offering at the moment than getting stuck in? Emre is doing his job the best he can with the team he's in, he's winning balls and spreading them about the pitch, his biggest problem is that we seem to have zero movement in the side, as I've said to you before if you put him in Arsenal's starting 11 he'd be one of the best midfielders in the league. Our team play awful football which is the reason we doesn't shine as often as he should, could you imagine Carrick in our midfield with the long ball style we play? Perhaps he is the weak link in our midfield, however I'd prefer to change our style of football to fit a player of his ability rather than get rid and play another midfielder who's more comfortable with long ball football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 And don't get me started on Martins... Not looking good is it? Ten. Fucking. MILLION. Pounds. To be fair, whilst he hasn't impressed i wouldn't want to be a short fast striker looking for service in this team!!! We don't put through balls in, we don't deliver accurate corsses, we create nowt from set pieces and we lump the ball up to ths strikers far too often, it must be a nightmare playing up front! To me he looks like somebody lacking confidence and trying way too hard (in some ways) ie. he snatches at every chance and his touch looks unsure. His 3 goals, all beign different and impressive suggest he does have talent and is capable of goals, but the way we are playing at the moment, combined with the pressure of our crowd and his replacing Shearer and covering for OWen and it may be too much for him right now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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