Lazarus 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 We'd have to wait til the January transfer window opens AND i dont think weve got that sort of money to spend anyway. So basically - were buggered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22159 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 bramble has got to go. at fault for both goals. how many more chances does he get? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 bramble has got to go. at fault for both goals. how many more chances does he get? Can't blame him, his only fault is that he's fucking useless, the whole world of football can recognise it, its a shame that fucking loon of a manager can't see it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Bramble was awful like. Surely Taylor would have been a better option. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Bramble was awful like. Surely Taylor would have been a better option. What a fucking surprise that is !!!! Who'd have predicted that ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 bramble has got to go. at fault for both goals. Not true, Carr was responsible for the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20742 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Ramage was at fault for the second wasnt he? He was the one who left Diouf? He was again shocking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22159 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 bramble has got to go. at fault for both goals. Not true, Carr was responsible for the first one. as was bramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) Don't worry lads, if you think our defence is bad, just think about poor Portsmouth. They've only got Sol Campbell, he'll never play enough games. Edited October 15, 2006 by Wullie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46034 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hasn't Roeder already gone on record as saying we need one (ONE) defender in January. He'll need to be Superman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Who needs defenders? We dont need defenders! What we need is two expensive new strikers in January! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyG 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 I dont think new defenders are the answer, I think the problem is with the management and coaching. It seems to me as if the defenders do not know who they should be marking or where they should be and that is the fault of the coaching staff + manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Who needs defenders? We dont need defenders! What we need is two expensive new strikers in January! And a left winger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) I dont think new defenders are the answer, I think the problem is with the management and coaching. It seems to me as if the defenders do not know who they should be marking or where they should be and that is the fault of the coaching staff + manager. Indeed the case. Whilst they may not be the 4 greatest defenders in the world, neither are players at the likens of Bolton, Villa, Portsmouth (Campbell aside) etc. However they are well drilled, organised and coached, know what to do and when and work as a cohesive well coached unit. Our coaches are and always have been shite because the morons who run this club have never for some reason thought coaching was of any importance and so we end up with coaches chosen because they're geordies like Lee Clark, or we haveTerry Mac who serves no useful purpose whatsoever, in fact the only thing he's "achieved" here in recent times was being Souness spin doctor and helping force Bellamy out the club. However we do still need to buy some defenders as well! Edited October 15, 2006 by Papa Lazaru Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Disagree entirely. They know what they should be doing and who they should be marking. They just... don't do it. By they, of course, I mean Bramble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22159 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 it's been obvious for years that bramble isn't good enough. it was obvious when he played alongside o'brien. it was obvious when he played alongside boumsong. he was an expensive mistake. he's not going to get any better at this stage of his carreer. it's time to drop him and admit we fucked up. we can't afford to keep him in the side - his mistakes contribute to too many dropped points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brock Manson 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Hasn't Roeder already gone on record as saying we need one (ONE) defender in January. He'll need to be Superman. Ibrahima Sonko? Would be a fucking fantastic buy for ANY team in the prem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Its not just Bramble, Carr has been just as pathetic. Ive never seen a player loose form like he has over the last two years. He was okay when he came, solid. But now, he's probably the easiest full back to play against in the league. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 (edited) It's so worrying that we're looking at needing at least one top-drawer centre-half and a very good full-back. I think we can blame Roeder to an extent insofar as we don't have the right personnel at the back, but I do think he's tried coaching them; they're just never, ever going to get it. Having said that, I think that whereas it's vitally important to have real real class and talent up front and in wide areas, it's less difficult to find defenders that can at least put us in the top six bracket. You just need to look around the premiership to see that there are plenty of decent defenders around in lower leagues, abroad, etc. We just need to hope we sign one of them. EDIT: more than one of them. Edited October 15, 2006 by Patrokles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Carr and Bramble were garbage, Moore and Ramage limited by their lack of pace and ability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46034 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Even someone like De Zeuw would make a huge difference to our back 4. And he's not even that good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Still, at least we bought Duff, who is proving to be a key performer in our team. Who needs fucking defenders anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Even someone like De Zeuw would make a huge difference to our back 4. And he's not even that good. yeah yeah, that's exactly the kind of thing I mean. I mean, you look at what Robson had at his disposal defensively (and I know his team were a great attacking force too), and they did alright. The thing is, whenever they slipped up it was mainly because they were just totally outclassed (ie, Bergkamp with Dabizas), whereas at the moment they're just shooting themselves in the foot, every single game. That's what's going wrong. It's not an issue so much of ability, it's a question of concentration and application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted October 15, 2006 Share Posted October 15, 2006 Would one player really make a difference or would he get dragged down to our level? Swamped by the ineptitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsy 0 Posted October 16, 2006 Share Posted October 16, 2006 Attack is the best form of defence is the line they are going by so in January i expect another striker and another central midfielder with a possible addition of a left winger.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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