Renton 21052 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 I don't get it. It was the tall one and the round one arguing that reminded me of them for some reason, nothing as abstract as tights. I take it HF is tall then? Denier (sp?), a measure of the thickness of hosiery? I didn't start it you know! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well I couldn't disagree more but each to their own I suppose. In 1996 I saw a play called the "Beautiful Game" at the Theatre Royal set in the present about a Newcastle United fan (and us having just lost the title as well). No film could have come close to touching the emotions evoked by it. There's an obvious analogy of it being the difference to listening to a CD or going to a gig - I have always preferred the latter (providing the band can play of course). I also went to see that, with my faffa, and we thought it was superb. So, I'm with Renton, there's nowt about going to the theatre, especially the Live Theatre where you can drink during the performance! You bunch of uneducated insular mongs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 you're fairly ignorant and prejudiced against live acting for some reason. Because it's invariably unrealistic, affected, stagy, overly dramatic shite. Your analogies are getting worse btw. Explain how they are getting worse than just stating it, I think it was fair. Why do you go to matches when they're on the telly then? I don't know what plays you have seen, but none of those adjectives could be attributed to the ones shown at the Live theatre for instance. Your basically just talking bollocks now tbh, especially given your use of the bolded word. I wouldn't normally have bothered dragging this out, but I'm not being a WUM. I mainly go to the match because a match on telly only shows you 10% of what's happening on the pitch. Secondly I go for the atmosphere, thirdly for the socialising. Unless you're sitting in the theatre singing songs and abusing the actors then the experience is no different than going to the pictures. If I'm sat in the back row of a theatre I can't see the actor's eyes. They know this and that's why theatre acting is completely different. That's why it's more showy. In silent film it was the same but their exaggerated performance was to balance the lack of dialogue. I'm sure there's some brilliant theatre productions, but they all come flaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Have to say I'm with Renton here. A good stage actor or director is able to portray just as realism, emotion, fantasy anything. They also aren't limited, one night they may try something different, a small tweek here and there, to keep the production fresh. Each time you see the play you might get something different, you don't get that by rewatching a DVD. Good case in point, wor lass's favourite Shakespeare is Titus Andronicus. There was recently a showing (I think in London) where several audience members had to leave the show due to the realism and horrific nature of what is being portrayed. The film, although good, I don't think did that to the same degree. Also she is taking me to see the Woman in Black which she promises will scare the shit out of me. I haven't seen a film that did that yet. Plus you get the audience interaction, which can obviously go either way. But to be able to get on stage night after night in front of expectant new audiences and be able to react to them must be one hell of a skill. I love watching films, but I also like a bit of proper theatre now and again. The effects in films can sometimes detract from the actors ability, but on stage the players have to perform, there's no safety net or way of diguising a piss poor performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21052 Posted October 4, 2006 Author Share Posted October 4, 2006 you're fairly ignorant and prejudiced against live acting for some reason. Because it's invariably unrealistic, affected, stagy, overly dramatic shite. Your analogies are getting worse btw. Explain how they are getting worse than just stating it, I think it was fair. Why do you go to matches when they're on the telly then? I don't know what plays you have seen, but none of those adjectives could be attributed to the ones shown at the Live theatre for instance. Your basically just talking bollocks now tbh, especially given your use of the bolded word. I wouldn't normally have bothered dragging this out, but I'm not being a WUM. I mainly go to the match because a match on telly only shows you 10% of what's happening on the pitch. Secondly I go for the atmosphere, thirdly for the socialising. Unless you're sitting in the theatre singing songs and abusing the actors then the experience is no different than going to the pictures. If I'm sat in the back row of a theatre I can't see the actor's eyes. They know this and that's why theatre acting is completely different. That's why it's more showy. In silent film it was the same but their exaggerated performance was to balance the lack of dialogue. I'm sure there's some brilliant theatre productions, but they all come flaming. I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with you, but seriously, get yourself to the Live theatre next time it's open. I don't think you could be more wrong - you can see the actors eye lashes let alone eyes, and there is less ham there than at the average barmitzvah. It's sociable (the bar helps) and you do benefit from the atmosphere (e.g laughter at a comedy). Theatre is hit and miss, obviously, the same as anything else, but a good production makes it worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Wait 'til his Mam gets him the How To Theatre book for Christmas, he'll hate the cinema and love theatre! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Wait 'til his Mam gets him the How To Theatre book for Christmas, he'll hate the cinema and love theatre! I'll have to buy then read the film one first. Honestly, the way myths get out of hand on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with you, but seriously, get yourself to the Live theatre next time it's open. I don't think you could be more wrong - you can see the actors eye lashes let alone eyes, and there is less ham there than at the average barmitzvah. It's sociable (the bar helps) and you do benefit from the atmosphere (e.g laughter at a comedy). Theatre is hit and miss, obviously, the same as anything else, but a good production makes it worthwhile. I have been. Perhaps going to see Joseph and his Technicolour Dreamcoat has lead me to tar it all with the same brush. When the've got Planet of the Apes on stage, I will be the first in line. "Can I play the piano anymore? Of course you can. Well I couldn't before! instrumental fill" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with you, but seriously, get yourself to the Live theatre next time it's open. I don't think you could be more wrong - you can see the actors eye lashes let alone eyes, and there is less ham there than at the average barmitzvah. It's sociable (the bar helps) and you do benefit from the atmosphere (e.g laughter at a comedy). Theatre is hit and miss, obviously, the same as anything else, but a good production makes it worthwhile. I have been. Perhaps going to see Joseph and his Technicolour Dreamcoat has lead me to tar it all with the same brush. When the've got Planet of the Apes on stage, I will be the first in line. "Can I play the piano anymore? Of course you can. Well I couldn't before! instrumental fill" Isn't that a Simpsons episode? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I guess I'm just going to have to disagree with you, but seriously, get yourself to the Live theatre next time it's open. I don't think you could be more wrong - you can see the actors eye lashes let alone eyes, and there is less ham there than at the average barmitzvah. It's sociable (the bar helps) and you do benefit from the atmosphere (e.g laughter at a comedy). Theatre is hit and miss, obviously, the same as anything else, but a good production makes it worthwhile. I have been. Perhaps going to see Joseph and his Technicolour Dreamcoat has lead me to tar it all with the same brush. When the've got Planet of the Apes on stage, I will be the first in line. "Can I play the piano anymore? Of course you can. Well I couldn't before! instrumental fill" Isn't that a Simpsons episode? Dr Zeus! Dr Zeus! I hate every ape I see, from chimpan A to chimpan Z oh you'll never make a monkey out of me. Oh my god, I was wrong It was earth all along you've finally made a monkey Yes we've finally made a monkey you've finally made a monkey out of meeeeeeee. I love you Dr Zeus! Best episode ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I honestly reckon you may be getting your opinion of theatre from the Simpsons. Some of the greatest writers were also the greatest playwrights, is that just a coincidence? I'm afraid to start mentioning names for fear of what your reponse might be. "Beckett, he's no Oliver Stone tbh" etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 I honestly reckon you may be getting your opinion of theatre from the Simpsons. Some of the greatest writers were also the greatest playwrights, is that just a coincidence? I'm afraid to start mentioning names for fear of what your reponse might be. "Beckett, he's no Oliver Stone tbh" etc. No, I'm well aware that legitimate theatre isn't just a target of ridicule. Some people say Brando was never as good on film as he was on stage. Streetcar Named Desire was a theatrical classic from Kazan/Brando before it launched launched their film careers, I'll bet Brando flounced around on the stage though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Kowalski was no flouncer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 A lot of early theatre was invented for the lower classes, to be fair. Funny how it has metamorphosised. Theatre has nothing to do with class now man. And you just made that statement up, didn't you? Historically, theatre was more for the ruling classes, surely? Peasents stayed in the pub. Passion plays, Dionysian festivals, holidays, shamanic gatherings, religious worship, military jubilation, mead halls, the original Globe; theatre evolved and was for the masses, the people; the lower classes. Beer was often very much in evidence. None of that is really exclusive to the working classes though. I think you have disproved your point, not that it was relevant in the first place. Not exclusive to, but intended for. Therefore I've confirmed my point and you've addressed an entirely different one. Besides, it was a perfectly relevent point considering you guys got the who theatre is intended for debate going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Well I couldn't disagree more but each to their own I suppose. In 1996 I saw a play called the "Beautiful Game" at the Theatre Royal set in the present about a Newcastle United fan (and us having just lost the title as well). No film could have come close to touching the emotions evoked by it. There's an obvious analogy of it being the difference to listening to a CD or going to a gig - I have always preferred the latter (providing the band can play of course). I also went to see that, with my faffa, and we thought it was superb. So, I'm with Renton, there's nowt about going to the theatre, especially the Live Theatre where you can drink during the performance! You bunch of uneducated insular mongs! See? That's who theatre was intended for! now the stereotypes are completely the opposite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Wait 'til his Mam gets him the How To Theatre book for Christmas, he'll hate the cinema and love theatre! I'll have to buy then read the film one first. Honestly, the way myths get out of hand on here. Tell me about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44109 Posted October 4, 2006 Share Posted October 4, 2006 Wait 'til his Mam gets him the How To Theatre book for Christmas, he'll hate the cinema and love theatre! I'll have to buy then read the film one first. Honestly, the way myths get out of hand on here. Tell me about it. What myth are you trying to claim you're the victim of? You are insanely protective of any and everyone at NUFC - FACT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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