Guest Patrokles Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. Yeah, we tried that, remember? Besides, Milner doesn't deserve to lose his place. On current form, he's our best winger. Last time we tried it was in that Uefa game and Duff was on fire, it worked imo, i don't know why he didn't stick with it. I like Milner but i don't think he's quite as good as Duff and Zoggy, just my opinion. We tried it a few other times too, and it just didn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPTOON 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Author Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. Yeah, we tried that, remember? Besides, Milner doesn't deserve to lose his place. On current form, he's our best winger. Last time we tried it was in that Uefa game and Duff was on fire, it worked imo, i don't know why he didn't stick with it. I like Milner but i don't think he's quite as good as Duff and Zoggy, just my opinion. We tried it a few other times too, and it just didn't work. No we didn't. When?.. Zoggy's hardly played with Duff.... we should have though imo Duff was MOM the last time he played there, crap opposition like i know but still he loked at home on the right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. Yeah, we tried that, remember? Besides, Milner doesn't deserve to lose his place. On current form, he's our best winger. Last time we tried it was in that Uefa game and Duff was on fire, it worked imo, i don't know why he didn't stick with it. I like Milner but i don't think he's quite as good as Duff and Zoggy, just my opinion. We tried it a few other times too, and it just didn't work. Name the games please. Duff at left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg 6 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Only time I can remember Duff playing left back for us was Tallinn away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22228 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. neither is ramage. that much is clear after last night. i'd rather a left winger out of position at left back who can offer some degree of support to the left winger than every move on that side breaking down because ramage has to take 3 or 4 touches before turning back to his right foot every time he gets the ball. Edited September 29, 2006 by Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. neither is ramage. that's much is clear after last night's. i'd rather a left winger out of position at left back who can offer some degree of support to the left winger than every move on that side breaking down because ramage has to take 3 or 4 touches before turning back to his right foot every time he gets the ball. I'd play Zog at left back with Duff in front of him and two strikers...What the hell go for it!! Even if we go all def minded we'll get mullahed 3-0 anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22228 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. neither is ramage. that's much is clear after last night's. i'd rather a left winger out of position at left back who can offer some degree of support to the left winger than every move on that side breaking down because ramage has to take 3 or 4 touches before turning back to his right foot every time he gets the ball. I'd play Zog at left back with Duff in front of him and two strikers...What the hell go for it!! Even if we go all def minded we'll get mullahed 3-0 anyway. exactamundo. there's absolutely no way we'll get anything out of the game if we sit back with our defence. may as wel have a go. shit or bust. i'll be happy if we lose 4-1 as long as we have a go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Zoggy and duff are no LB's . They'd be wasted there too. They are our best Wingers man! Stick Duff RW and Zoggy on the left. If anyone has to be played out of position its unfortunatly (for him and us) Ramage, he's not great there but with bernard stryggling with fitness and Baba out its the best we can do for now. Zoggy's going to have to come back more to help out if/when we are against it. neither is ramage. that's much is clear after last night's. i'd rather a left winger out of position at left back who can offer some degree of support to the left winger than every move on that side breaking down because ramage has to take 3 or 4 touches before turning back to his right foot every time he gets the ball. I'd play Zog at left back with Duff in front of him and two strikers...What the hell go for it!! Even if we go all def minded we'll get mullahed 3-0 anyway. exactamundo. there's absolutely no way we'll get anything out of the game if we sit back with our defence. may as wel have a go. shit or bust. i'll be happy if we lose 4-1 as long as we have a go. Music to my ears sir! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Duff played on the right against Fulham, Ventspils and Tallin. If you two would like to apologise, feel free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Additionally, if you're feeling extra contrite: The 27-year-old midfielder was pressed into service as an emergency left-back in Tallinn on Thursday night after Titus Bramble picked up an injury, and turned in an excellent display. Duff, a £5million summer signing from Chelsea, will hope to return to his more accustomed role against West Ham tomorrow, but his versatility and character have proved major pluses for Roeder as he prepares to return to his former club. The manager said: 'That just shows you how versatile Damien Duff is. I know he has played at left-back a number of times for Chelsea and done really, really well. 'When I asked him to go an play there, I was not asking him to have a new experience. 'He is such a good pro that whatever you ask him to do, he does it with a willingness that makes a manager's life a lot easier. 'That is one of the beauties of him, as well as the ability he has. He looked very comfortable because he is a good player on the ball. 'Teams who like to pass the ball or want to pass the ball must have good full-backs that can play, and Damien Duff certainly can play. 'But as far as being a long-term left-back, those days are quite a few seasons away, I would guess. He is not ready to drop back there yet on a regular basis. 'But as he proved, he can do the job. He had a big smile on his face after the game in the dressing room knowing he had done an excellent job for the team.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scottish Mag 3 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. Left back shouldn't be a problem I'm sure if Beresford was to turn up with his boots at the weekend they would give him a game... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. I see your still your old haughty self Verlaine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. I see your still your old haughty self Verlaine. That's Jimbo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. I see your still your old haughty self Verlaine. That's Jimbo. Quoted the wrong one....I meant Partrokles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. I see your still your old haughty self Verlaine. That's Jimbo. Quoted the wrong one....I meant Partrokles. I gathered Parky sir. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 As much as I have serious concerns for the left side of defence, I'm also concerned for Harper, I can only imagine that his confidence must be somewhere below rock bottom at the moment. I see your still your old haughty self Verlaine. That's Jimbo. Quoted the wrong one....I meant Partrokles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@yourservice 67 Posted September 29, 2006 Share Posted September 29, 2006 Does it matter? battering = rooney = loves the toon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noelie 103 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Why do you lot of young wankers feel you must have a back four? When I was growing up and playing it was basic to have the traditional back three. Left & Right full-backs and Centre-half. The team formation was always 1 - 3 - 2 - 5. Think about this when you try to figure out a formation to play Man.U. I, the aad gadgee, might be tempted to go with; ......................................................Harper...... .................Carr...............................Moore.........................Taylor. ...Duff...................Parker.................Emre..................Butt.....................Zoggy. ..........................................Martins......O......Ameobe....................... Parker and Butt can play defensive roles assisting the back three, getting forward as often as often as possible and letting Emre have a free rein in the middle to spread passes to the wings and feed the front two Duff and Zoggy can play the wings, taking defenders on, feeding the front two, tracking back to assist Carr and Taylor if necessary. Think about it, anyone wiv arf a brain (smirk) can see why this could work and it relieves the stress of having to start Ramage or Bramble. Subs: Milner Sibierski Ramage Krul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wellsy 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I might be on drugs or something but i think we can win at OT. Dont ask me why but i think it is the Luque factor or maybe the Martins factor. Either way we will win for some reason and if we lose.... it happens. Martins and Sib up front Martins dropping back to run at their defence. I have actually never seen a Newcastle game yet this year in Australia and i dont think this game will be on so i cant see how fast Martins is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raconteur 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 I might be on drugs or something but i think we can win at OT. Dont ask me why but i think it is the Luque factor or maybe the Martins factor. Either way we will win for some reason and if we lose.... it happens. Martins and Sib up front Martins dropping back to run at their defence. I have actually never seen a Newcastle game yet this year in Australia and i dont think this game will be on so i cant see how fast Martins is. We're NOT on telly here - Fox have chosen to go with Tottenham v Portsmouth - no excuse for missing v Everton or v Liverpool mind As for the "Luque factor" - while he will be doubtless be on the bench I hope to God that's where he remains for the whole 90 minutes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad-on-the-cocks 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Martins will be full of confidence and I can see him somersaulting in front of the Stretford End today, hopefully Newcastle can scrape a win, with the Mancs traveling away midweek possible draw or win for Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Manchester United v Newcastle Untied v Sunday, 1st October 2006 Barclays Premiership Kick Off 15:00hrs Confirmed starting XI: - - - Substitutes: 40 T Krul, 07 A Luque, 09 O Martins, 14 C N'Zogbia, 35 M Pattison Man United team: 01 E Van der Sar, 02 G Neville, 05 R Ferdinand, 15 N Vidic, 04 G Heinze, 24 D Fletcher, 16 M Carrick, 18 P Scholes, 07 C Ronaldo, 08 W Rooney, 20 O Solskjaer Subs 29 T Kuszczak, 03 P Evra, W Brown, L Saha, 22 J O'Shea Ref: M Dean Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31274 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 (edited) Geek. Edited September 30, 2006 by ewerk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM4 0 Posted September 30, 2006 Share Posted September 30, 2006 Geek. anyway, I'm going for the whole "expect the worst and you won't be disapointed" on this one. ManU always seem to shred us apart playwise at the best of times. A shot on target, winning a corner, putting three passes together in their half of the pitch ... Anything will be a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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