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I'm hoping Roeder is aiming to hold out for 60-70 minutes, then bring on Martins and N'Zogbia with a view to taking advantage of tired defenders?

 

otherwise he's a tool, a tool, a tool-tool-tool

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we shouldve put Martins up front on his own.

 

Hasn't got the presence to be a lone striker tbh

 

 

I think he's got the pace..

 

Not enough for a lone striker. He'd just be dominated by their centre halves.

 

This is definitely feeling like if they don't win this they'll be rueing missing a boatload of chances and we'll be getting off lucky. Either that or we'll hold out til the 80th minute then fold and let 3 in.

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I'm hoping Roeder is aiming to hold out for 60-70 minutes, then bring on Martins and N'Zogbia with a view to taking advantage of tired defenders?

 

otherwise he's a tool, a tool, a tool-tool-tool

 

If we hold out til the 70th minute, I'd be going for a draw. Go for the win at that stage and they'll pummel us.

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this is rubbish, going to OT for a draw, playing without two of our more direct players... fuck.. even the message board is half empty.

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we shouldve put Martins up front on his own.

 

Hasn't got the presence to be a lone striker tbh

 

 

I think he's got the pace..

 

Not enough for a lone striker. He'd just be dominated by their centre halves.

 

This is definitely feeling like if they don't win this they'll be rueing missing a boatload of chances and we'll be getting off lucky. Either that or we'll hold out til the 80th minute then fold and let 3 in.

 

 

I cant imagine us coming away with a point

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I'm hoping Roeder is aiming to hold out for 60-70 minutes, then bring on Martins and N'Zogbia with a view to taking advantage of tired defenders?

 

otherwise he's a tool, a tool, a tool-tool-tool

 

If we hold out til the 70th minute, I'd be going for a draw. Go for the win at that stage and they'll pummel us.

I'm not saying this is what I'd do, I'm saying that with this starting line up I hope that it's a ploan Roeder has... otherwise he's a tool, a tool, a tool-tool-tool

 

I'd have gone with Parker and Butt in the center, Zog and Duff on the wings, Shola and Martins up front. Told Parker and Butt to sit in front of the back four and sweep up as much as they can there, then Duff, Zog, Ameobi and Martins would have more license to be creative

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I agree with the fish, if we have very few attacking options we're going to end up defending for the entire match; we already know that our defence can't do that.

 

1-0 Man United

 

Basically it's a question of how many do we lose by, however we start the game. If we try and defend we'll get beat, if we try and attack them, we'll get beat by more. It's a totally defeatist attitude, but it's beyond inevitability. I don't even think the players go to Old Trafford thinking they can get anything, never mind the fans.

 

At least now we CAN change things around and hope for the best. If we don't we're beaten, if we do we're probably still beaten. :angry:

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I agree with the fish, if we have very few attacking options we're going to end up defending for the entire match; we already know that our defence can't do that.

 

1-0 Man United

 

Basically it's a question of how many do we lose by, however we start the game. If we try and defend we'll get beat, if we try and attack them, we'll get beat by more. It's a totally defeatist attitude, but it's beyond inevitability. I don't even think the players go to Old Trafford thinking they can get anything, never mind the fans.

 

At least now we CAN change things around and hope for the best. If we don't we're beaten, if we do we're probably still beaten. :angry:

 

Funny really, when I see other teams go to Old Trafford I always think they can nick something. Never really see that in us.

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Well sadly this is what i was expecting, we're not a team for killing games and trying to snatch a draw. If we go to manu hoping to hold out for 90 mins we won't, at some point we'll let one in and then lose what little confidence we do have and won't have much chance of getting started into an attacking mode.

 

Far better as somebody said earlier to have had the pace and directness of Zog and Martins in the team and at least look to attack occasionally. You can still play it slightly defensively, keep it tight and have those two with pace on the break.

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Funny really, when I see other teams go to Old Trafford I always think they can nick something. Never really see that in us.

it's weird isn't it. We ALWAYS just seem to curl up and die.

 

Anyway, it was inches away from being Rooney and not Ole to knock it in apparently... gutted that would been consolation of getting first scorer right.

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but itf it's an inevitability, why not at least go there with the intention of trying to win, instead of this pathetic capitulation.

 

it's the footballing equivalent of rolling over onto our backs and whimpering

 

if it's inevitable, why not instead of starting an unfit striker, start the one who bagged a brace in Europe, instead of having a Spanish soap opera star on the bench, why not have a promising kid?

 

better to burn out than to fade away, so says the Kurgen

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Man Utd could have 2 players sent off and they would still dominate us.

 

I dont know why we have gone here for a draw. Why not fight fire with fire as far as i know they have 11 players on the pitch and so do we so why not go out there and hunt for the goal. Beats sitting back and defending and hoping they tire, which they wont, so we can nick a goal.

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