nufc4ever 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) http://www.thefa.com/TheFA/NewsFromTheFA/P...FAStatement.htm Further to last night's Panorama programme, The FA confirmed today that it has already asked the BBC to provide all of the information it obtained during their investigation. We expect this information to be provided as a matter of urgency. The FA takes any allegations of corruption in the game extremely seriously and will actively investigate the claims made by the programme. Some of these investigations will be conducted jointly with the Premier League when the claims relate to both FA and Premier League rules. Discussions have already taken place with the Premier League as to how these joint investigations will be managed. These investigations will cover the allegations of illegal approaches involving: - Frank Arnesen - Liverpool FC - Newcastle United FC - Harry Redknapp The joint approach will also apply to the transfers of Hidetoshi Nakata, Tal Ben Haim and Ali Al-Habsi to Bolton Wanderers, which fall within the timeframe covered by the Lord Stevens Inquiry. Other allegations, such as those relating to players’ agents and connected activities, will be investigated by The FA alone. They will cover the allegations against: - Sam Allardyce - Craig Allardyce - Kevin Bond - Charles Collymore - Peter Harrison Although agent Teni Yerima is licensed in France and therefore not under our jurisdiction, The FA will also include him in its inquiries and refer any information to FIFA and/or the French FA as appropriate. The FA will also speak to all other parties named in the programme. Based on the evidence obtained, The FA will then determine what action should be taken. FA Chief Executive Brian Barwick said: "These are serious allegations which have been made by Panorama and we are determined to investigate them fully. It is vital for the integrity of the game and for every football supporter that we do this. "We will work in close co-operation with the Premier League. As with any investigation, we will ensure that our inquiries are exhaustive and thorough. If we find evidence of corruption we will act on it. We recognise our responsibility." Uh-oh... Edited September 20, 2006 by Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) why no Liverpool? Edited September 20, 2006 by themags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 No evidence other than that knacker Harrison saying that we met with the kids' family. I would say they'll be more likely to look into the instances where they have video evidence. It'll be too much like hard work for them to try and pin anything on us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I didn't see last night's programme, but I thought we weren't mentioned? Why are we under investigation then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nufc4ever 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Author Share Posted September 20, 2006 Even so, not good for the image of the club is it? Add it to the fact that many believe Shepherd and his cronies are less than squeeky-clean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 No evidence other than that knacker Harrison saying that we met with the kids' family. I would say they'll be more likely to look into the instances where they have video evidence. It'll be too much like hard work for them to try and pin anything on us. Ah, I had missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I didn't see last night's programme, but I thought we weren't mentioned? Why are we under investigation then? This agent was whoring this 15 year old Boro lad around a few clubs. He went to Liverpool and Chelsea and the meetings there were caught on camera. Prior to setting these meetings up, he said to the undercover bloke "I've already had Newcastle around at his parent's house meeting with him....just so it's not out in the open." So that's the sum total of the evidence against us. I feel sorry for this 15 year old kid like. How are you supposed to know the right thing to do when the bloke that's supposed to be your advisor is doing stuff like this? Having said that, his parents should probably have realised that this wasn't above board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 When you consider that the likely punishment for this sort of thing is probably going to be mimimal, it's maybe not a bad thing that they're having a bit delve into our transfer dealings. It'll get Shepherd sweating a bit, and if there has been anything untoward going on, we might get what we all want out of this. Obviously I don't want any significant financial penalties, or points deductions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6670 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Boro are seething.... Middlesbrough chief executive Keith Lamb has criticised agent Peter Harrison for allegedly offering Nathan Porritt to Chelsea and Liverpool. BBC's Panorama investigation into football included claims Harrison had spoken to both clubs about the then 15-year-old England youth player. He said: "We are hugely disappointed with the actions of Peter Harrison. "Clearly Peter has a lot to answer for to the game's authorities and this football club." In a meeting secretly filmed for Tuesday's Panorama programme, Chelsea's head of development and scouting Frank Arnesen was seen discussing a £150,000 deal for Porritt. Lamb confirmed that Harrison never sought permission from Boro to talk to other clubs about the teenager, who at the time was on schoolboy terms with his home-town club, and accused the agent of breaking Premier League rules. "It was quite clear from the footage shown on the programme that he approached other Premier League clubs to offer Nathan Porritt to them. "Harrison was in breach of Premier League rules and regulations in doing so without either our permission or knowledge. "Despite the fact that his agent was blatantly touting him around other clubs, Nathan then signed for our Academy and we are delighted to have him on board. "He is a local boy, who has always wanted to play for Middlesbrough. "Nathan and his family understood that Middlesbrough was the best place for him to fulfil his obvious potential." Both Chelsea and Liverpool have denied breaking the rules in connection with their interest in Porritt, although neither club made comments on Wednesday. Source: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/5363514.stm Thinking back on this one, I remember Harrison saying to Knut when they left Chelsea's academy that £150K was nowhere near enough - the bloke is totally indefensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21050 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I didn't see last night's programme, but I thought we weren't mentioned? Why are we under investigation then? This agent was whoring this 15 year old Boro lad around a few clubs. He went to Liverpool and Chelsea and the meetings there were caught on camera. Prior to setting these meetings up, he said to the undercover bloke "I've already had Newcastle around at his parent's house meeting with him....just so it's not out in the open." So that's the sum total of the evidence against us. I feel sorry for this 15 year old kid like. How are you supposed to know the right thing to do when the bloke that's supposed to be your advisor is doing stuff like this? Having said that, his parents should probably have realised that this wasn't above board. Thing is, we don't know what evidence they have which they may have witheld for legal reasons. Also, even if they have nothing against us, that doesn't mean that NUFC does not use corrupt agents. How else can you explain the McKay deals which have been frankly ludicrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9111 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 When you consider that the likely punishment for this sort of thing is probably going to be mimimal, it's maybe not a bad thing that they're having a bit delve into our transfer dealings. It'll get Shepherd sweating a bit, and if there has been anything untoward going on, we might get what we all want out of this. Obviously I don't want any significant financial penalties, or points deductions. 30 years ago we would have had points deducted and a cash penalty, but our sooopa Chairman will make sure we'll just get told off. Seriously though, this is getting VERY tiresome and not a little worrying, time after fucking time if there's any shit hitting the fan anywhere to do with football some of it always lands in NE1. With the tax mularkey already this is getting worse by the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9111 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I didn't see last night's programme, but I thought we weren't mentioned? Why are we under investigation then? This agent was whoring this 15 year old Boro lad around a few clubs. He went to Liverpool and Chelsea and the meetings there were caught on camera. Prior to setting these meetings up, he said to the undercover bloke "I've already had Newcastle around at his parent's house meeting with him....just so it's not out in the open." So that's the sum total of the evidence against us. I feel sorry for this 15 year old kid like. How are you supposed to know the right thing to do when the bloke that's supposed to be your advisor is doing stuff like this? Having said that, his parents should probably have realised that this wasn't above board. Thing is, we don't know what evidence they have which they may have witheld for legal reasons. Also, even if they have nothing against us, that doesn't mean that NUFC does not use corrupt agents. How else can you explain the McKay deals which have been frankly ludicrous. Totally agree, I reckon it's a certainty the "best" bits of that programme were not aired due to legal advice, fuck knows what's been passed to the FA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 didnt the vat thing also show we were fiddling the paperwork with regards to how we employ and pay agents? this new bung scandal may mean the authorities take an even closer look at our 'books'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 I didn't see last night's programme, but I thought we weren't mentioned? Why are we under investigation then? This agent was whoring this 15 year old Boro lad around a few clubs. He went to Liverpool and Chelsea and the meetings there were caught on camera. Prior to setting these meetings up, he said to the undercover bloke "I've already had Newcastle around at his parent's house meeting with him....just so it's not out in the open." So that's the sum total of the evidence against us. I feel sorry for this 15 year old kid like. How are you supposed to know the right thing to do when the bloke that's supposed to be your advisor is doing stuff like this? Having said that, his parents should probably have realised that this wasn't above board. Thing is, we don't know what evidence they have which they may have witheld for legal reasons. Also, even if they have nothing against us, that doesn't mean that NUFC does not use corrupt agents. How else can you explain the McKay deals which have been frankly ludicrous. I think you'd be hard pushed to find a football agent that isn't corrupt. If not in the bung sense, then certainly in the questionable advice they offer their clients. I'm sure we deal with plenty that aren't completely above board. What's Kenneth Shepherd's role at NUFC anyway? Is it him or Charles that worked with Pro-Active? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 didnt the vat thing also show we were fiddling the paperwork with regards to how we employ and pay agents? this new bung scandal may mean the authorities take an even closer look at our 'books'. Yeah, I think we were alleged to have completed the paperwork incorrectly. I think we've conceded it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curry stained pilchard 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Totally agree, I reckon it's a certainty the "best" bits of that programme were not aired due to legal advice, fuck knows what's been passed to the FA ...and they'll probably come out in this weekends NOTW... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9111 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 (edited) didnt the vat thing also show we were fiddling the paperwork with regards to how we employ and pay agents? this new bung scandal may mean the authorities take an even closer look at our 'books'. Yeah, I think we were alleged to have completed the paperwork incorrectly. I think we've conceded it too. I think our defence was, "well everyone does it this way" !!!!! Canny editorial here from todays times Loved this bit Yet, in the real world, where do the greatest financial scandals take place? Not on the shop floor, that’s for sure. Your boss has a greater capacity for corruption than you, his boss has greater again and so on, all the way to the top. Typically, though, bung investigations are founded on the cliché of grubby wide boys outmanoeuvring gullible businessmen who, despite amassing vast personal fortunes, have never been exposed to an instance of sharp practice and react to it like an Oklahoma dairy farmer visiting the big city. Stands to reason, doesn’t it? Have a mental run through the names of the Premiership chairmen. Butter wouldn’t melt, eh? Edited September 20, 2006 by Toonpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 3902 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Bond likely to quit chron Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Oliver predicting that Bond will quit in the Chron. Tommy Craig will be pissing himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6455 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 The "whoring" of players happens all the time. I suspect even more so than official bids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted September 20, 2006 Share Posted September 20, 2006 Sounds to me like its already inevitable that harrison and collymore will be the lambs to the slaughter while everyone else carries on as is. One bad thing though - this bung scandal and the newell one will mean that any future dodgy deals will be done so far underground that they will never see the light of day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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