Gemmill 44107 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 From the Times: Newcastle’s policy towards buying players remains a source of disquiet. Whether Patrick Kluivert or Albert Luque, there has been intrigue regarding the source of decision-making and it has not been dispelled by the events of this summer. At centre half, Roeder’s interest in Robert Huth was initially denied by Freddy Shepherd, whose fondness for Jonathan Woodgate was not reciprocated by the Newcastle manager. An approach for Huth was made when his move to Middlesbrough was finalised, Woodgate opted for Teesside and an assiduous admirer in Gareth Southgate, while a bid by Newcastle for Zat Knight on transfer deadline day was submitted late and rebuffed. Woodgate excelled away to Arsenal , Knight played for Fulham against Newcastle, for whom Titus Bramble blundered unforgivably. Is that enough symbolism? A former centre half and Newcastle captain, Roeder has worked closely with Bramble on the training pitch with some reward, but after two errors and lapses of judgment inside the last eight minutes transformed victory into defeat, his fury spoke of reserves of patience seeping away. Fulham’s away form is wretched; they won a single league match last season and were the only team beaten at home by Sunderland. Bramble’s name was not mentioned by Roeder, but it was hardly necessary. “When you have been in the game as long as I have, you learn to believe that anything is possible, but that was disastrous,” the manager said. “The professional thing to do was to win 1-0. We threw it down the drain. I find it incredible that players sometimes make the mistakes they do.” Sounds completely plausible and evidence that Shepherd's interference is what is causing a lot of our problems in transfer windows. Perhaps he thought that if he blocked Roeder from bidding for Huth that he would finally cave in on deadline day and agree to go for Freddy's preferred choice of Woodgate (the bigger story, the prodigal son returns, Shepherd gets to talk about his great relationship with Real Madrid etc. etc.). It would also possibly explain Roeder's silence following deadline day - better to fume silently than say something you might regret. I'm making leaps here, but I don't think they're beyond the realms of probability. No doubt LM will be along later to post something completely random along the lines of "so you're another one who thinks there's a bottomless pit of money are you?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3788 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 From the Times: Newcastle’s policy towards buying players remains a source of disquiet. Whether Patrick Kluivert or Albert Luque, there has been intrigue regarding the source of decision-making and it has not been dispelled by the events of this summer. At centre half, Roeder’s interest in Robert Huth was initially denied by Freddy Shepherd, whose fondness for Jonathan Woodgate was not reciprocated by the Newcastle manager. An approach for Huth was made when his move to Middlesbrough was finalised, Woodgate opted for Teesside and an assiduous admirer in Gareth Southgate, while a bid by Newcastle for Zat Knight on transfer deadline day was submitted late and rebuffed. Woodgate excelled away to Arsenal , Knight played for Fulham against Newcastle, for whom Titus Bramble blundered unforgivably. Is that enough symbolism? A former centre half and Newcastle captain, Roeder has worked closely with Bramble on the training pitch with some reward, but after two errors and lapses of judgment inside the last eight minutes transformed victory into defeat, his fury spoke of reserves of patience seeping away. Fulham’s away form is wretched; they won a single league match last season and were the only team beaten at home by Sunderland. Bramble’s name was not mentioned by Roeder, but it was hardly necessary. “When you have been in the game as long as I have, you learn to believe that anything is possible, but that was disastrous,” the manager said. “The professional thing to do was to win 1-0. We threw it down the drain. I find it incredible that players sometimes make the mistakes they do.” Sounds completely plausible and evidence that Shepherd's interference is what is causing a lot of our problems in transfer windows. Perhaps he thought that if he blocked Roeder from bidding for Huth that he would finally cave in on deadline day and agree to go for Freddy's preferred choice of Woodgate (the bigger story, the prodigal son returns, Shepherd gets to talk about his great relationship with Real Madrid etc. etc.). It would also possibly explain Roeder's silence following deadline day - better to fume silently than say something you might regret. I'm making leaps here, but I don't think they're beyond the realms of probability. No doubt LM will be along later to post something completely random along the lines of "so you're another one who thinks there's a bottomless pit of money are you?" He's better than McKeag youknow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Personally, I'm shocked by these accusations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21760 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 5th best interfering chairman in the world tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 You can't criticise Shepherd because we've had worse before. That means you can't criticise Roeder or Souness either btw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 It all sounds unfortunately plausible. Personally I doubt whether any of our sigings were what Roeder had wanted. I suspect his list looked a lot more like Bridge, Huth, Graveson/Malbranque and Bent but we are a club so poorly run that we couldn't make any of these happen when in reality they could have all been bought (with the possible exception of Bent). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts Edited September 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts It is a FACT that we are unable to tempt a player to come here over Boro, when that happens then you know we're shit. This won: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Newcastle’s policy towards buying players remains a source of disquiet. Whether Patrick Kluivert or Albert Luque, there has been intrigue regarding the source of decision-making and it has not been dispelled by the events of this summer. At centre half, Roeder’s interest in Robert Huth was initially denied by Freddy Shepherd, whose fondness for Jonathan Woodgate was not reciprocated by the Newcastle manager. Strange gaffe from a journalist, Shirley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1217 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts Is that a fact? I always thought we were better and more ambtious under Johnny Hall! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 To not be reciprocate it would have to be Woodgate not liking Shepherd, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Newcastle’s policy towards buying players remains a source of disquiet. Whether Patrick Kluivert or Albert Luque, there has been intrigue regarding the source of decision-making and it has not been dispelled by the events of this summer. At centre half, Roeder’s interest in Robert Huth was initially denied by Freddy Shepherd, whose fondness for Jonathan Woodgate was not reciprocated by the Newcastle manager. Strange gaffe from a journalist, Shirley? The vast majority of journalists are painfully piss-poor, I've noticed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 To not be reciprocate it would have to be Woodgate not liking Shepherd, right? That was my thinking, the etymology backs me up, and I'm having difficulty seeing how it's in some way a clever twist of the original meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 To not be reciprocate it would have to be Woodgate not liking Shepherd, right? That was my thinking, the etymology backs me up, and I'm having difficulty seeing how it's in some way a clever twist of the original meaning. I never noticed until you pointed it out but I think he just meant Roeder's feelings on Woodgate didn't mirror those of Shepherd and got the word wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 I never noticed until you pointed it out but I think he just meant Roeder's feelings on Woodgate didn't mirror those of Shepherd and got the word wrong. I think you're right, but when we get to the point where a journalist in a serious paper doesn't know his own craft, it's a little disturbing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts Craig Bellamy is a cunt and a cancer tbh. Ask any Liverpool fan or player, it's true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Awesome, it worked Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts It is a FACT that we are unable to tempt a player to come here over Boro, when that happens then you know we're shit. This won: even worse is when a couple of your best players, actually move to the smogs because they think they are better off....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) this is common knowledge tbh. nicky butt, luque and kluivert were all shepherd signings. Is it ? Source ? PS...it is FACT that we are a bigger, better and more ambitious club than we were before the current board took over this club. Do you always believe speculation and ignore proper facts Craig Bellamy is a cunt and a cancer tbh. Ask any Liverpool fan or player, it's true does it matter if he scores winning goals in big european games ? Or propels your team into the CL from a mid table position ? If you want a team of nice schoolboys...Mr Souness was on the way to giving it to you PS. Particularly amusing is the fact that once again Dan makes things up with no justification or proof Edited September 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 Hook, line and sinker tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 15, 2006 Share Posted September 15, 2006 (edited) Hook, line and sinker tbh You think I didn't recognise such poor bait as that Just making a point for those who said that Souness should have barrowloads of cash to build his own team. All supplied and generated by the, eeerrr, shite board .... Edited September 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44107 Posted September 16, 2006 Author Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hook, line and sinker tbh You think I didn't recognise such poor bait as that Just making a point for those who said that Souness should have barrowloads of cash to build his own team. All supplied and generated by the, eeerrr, shite board .... Yeah, making a completely irrelevant point. That's unusual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hook, line and sinker tbh You think I didn't recognise such poor bait as that Just making a point for those who said that Souness should have barrowloads of cash to build his own team. All supplied and generated by the, eeerrr, shite board .... Leazes....Once and for all, and for sweet Jesus' pity.... It's not Freddie's f***ing money! Freddie takes money OUT of the club. The money comes from you, me and all the other mugs who want to see our team do well. *weeps* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted September 16, 2006 Share Posted September 16, 2006 Hook, line and sinker tbh You think I didn't recognise such poor bait as that Just making a point for those who said that Souness should have barrowloads of cash to build his own team. All supplied and generated by the, eeerrr, shite board .... Yeah, making a completely irrelevant point. That's unusual. Whats irrelevant about it ? The fact that the facts don't suit your "opinion" ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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