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[LeazesMag 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

You are saying ALL our buys are panic buys, so I asked you to confirm you think that a minimum of 13 players are panic buys. You do not give a response on ANY of them.

 

And oddly - these 3 players you DO mention, are all only recent - if they are panic buys at all - which shows what you say is shite. They only reflect our current situation, whereby whatever we did we would have had to bring in a few squad players to replace the ones that the Scottish fuckpig was responsible for us losing or else go through the season with a small squad again.

 

This is the point that idiots like you fail to grasp, you actually think the club has a bottomless pit of money, yet even more stupidly say the very board who you want to buy all these players, are shite. The same board who are running the club with a full ground, generating one of the top spending clubs, yet you still say other clubs who can't fill smaller grounds and spend and generate less money are better boards.....keep up the digging mate, you're an absolute scream as well as being a tit.

 

It also reflects that the club does NOT have a policy to make panic buys, and it also reflects the fact that wankers who think Shepherd is the manager, can't possibly be the manager either or all our ex managers would all have been making panic buys ..... I realise this won't fit your "opinions", but that is why your opinions are stupid and shite, because they are not based on facts.

 

Shame Meenzer's post didn't make you see what crap you are posting.

Edited September 21, 2006 by LeazesMag

[gram 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

You are saying ALL our buys are panic buys, so I asked you to confirm you think that a minimum of 13 players are panic buys. You do not give a response on ANY of them.

 

And oddly - these 3 players you DO mention, are all only recent - if they are panic buys at all - which shows what you say is shite. They only reflect our current situation, whereby whatever we did we would have had to bring in a few squad players to replace the ones that the Scottish fuckpig was responsible for us losing or else go through the season with a small squad again.

 

This is the point that idiots like you fail to grasp, you actually think the club has a bottomless pit of money, yet even more stupidly say the very board who you want to buy all these players, are shite. The same board who are running the club with a full ground, generating one of the top spending clubs, yet you still say other clubs who can't fill smaller grounds and spend and generate less money are better boards.....keep up the digging mate, you're an absolute scream as well as being a tit.

 

It also reflects that the club does NOT have a policy to make panic buys, and it also reflects the fact that wankers who think Shepherd is the manager, can't possibly be the manager either or all our ex managers would all have been making panic buys ..... I realise this won't fit your "opinions", but that is why your opinions are stupid and shite, because they are not based on facts.

 

Shame Meenzer's post didn't make you see what crap you are posting.

5th best opinions on here tbh

[LeazesMag 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

the point is easy enough to see, which is the 3 players you mention are the only 3 you can think of, and before Souness was appointed manager Newcastle United didn't make these type of buys you accuse them of making.

 

 

Out of the 5 we bought? Over 50% of our signings were panic buys then. Sorry, what point are you trying to make? Things used to be ok, so we'll live with it?

 

I believe that Meenzer can see the point and he has stated it, the point is that Newcastle United very rarely make these type of buys they are being accused of making all the time

Step forward Albert Luque. That is £9.5 million quids worth of dodgy panic buy.

Boumsong was desperation - everyone knew we needed a centre half and we dived in. Another £8m - lack of planning in the summer resulted in that debacle. (If we knew woodgate was fucked as many suggest then surely we knew we needed centre half then?)

Pre-Souness you can argue the above on that score and of course we havent had a transfer window (in this format) much before it so it isnt really an argument is it? (and God knows why you brought it up)

 

We have bought shite on the eve of a season often enough though - thats just one of the reasons why we win fuck all.

 

Any fucker who can honestly say Sibierski, Bernard and Rossi were planned, long term buys wants to worry more about Freddie Shepherd and Glen Roeder than I already do.

 

Co-incidence they are all Souness buys ?

 

And they ie Luque and Boumsong, weren't lack of "planning" on the clubs part mate, Souness made no secret of the fact that he had watched Boumsong particularly, and specifically chose him to replace Woodgate. Thats not bad planning, thats just crap judgment. And Luque too - is bad judgement, he had MONTHS to look for replacements for Bellamy and Robert and he wanted Luque.

 

Fact is, Roeder is having to manage the club under far more difficult conditions than previous managers, and the squad needed a couple more players. That is Souness' legacy, and there are people on here who were happy with what he was doing and actually SAID the club should throw money at him "to build his own team"

Edited September 21, 2006 by LeazesMag

[LeazesMag 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

You are saying ALL our buys are panic buys, so I asked you to confirm you think that a minimum of 13 players are panic buys. You do not give a response on ANY of them.

 

And oddly - these 3 players you DO mention, are all only recent - if they are panic buys at all - which shows what you say is shite. They only reflect our current situation, whereby whatever we did we would have had to bring in a few squad players to replace the ones that the Scottish fuckpig was responsible for us losing or else go through the season with a small squad again.

 

This is the point that idiots like you fail to grasp, you actually think the club has a bottomless pit of money, yet even more stupidly say the very board who you want to buy all these players, are shite. The same board who are running the club with a full ground, generating one of the top spending clubs, yet you still say other clubs who can't fill smaller grounds and spend and generate less money are better boards.....keep up the digging mate, you're an absolute scream as well as being a tit.

 

It also reflects that the club does NOT have a policy to make panic buys, and it also reflects the fact that wankers who think Shepherd is the manager, can't possibly be the manager either or all our ex managers would all have been making panic buys ..... I realise this won't fit your "opinions", but that is why your opinions are stupid and shite, because they are not based on facts.

 

Shame Meenzer's post didn't make you see what crap you are posting.

5th best opinions on here tbh

 

I was beginning to think you were one of the few sensible ones on here with a brain

[Meenzer 15347]

Good grief.

[gram 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

You are saying ALL our buys are panic buys, so I asked you to confirm you think that a minimum of 13 players are panic buys. You do not give a response on ANY of them.

 

And oddly - these 3 players you DO mention, are all only recent - if they are panic buys at all - which shows what you say is shite. They only reflect our current situation, whereby whatever we did we would have had to bring in a few squad players to replace the ones that the Scottish fuckpig was responsible for us losing or else go through the season with a small squad again.

 

This is the point that idiots like you fail to grasp, you actually think the club has a bottomless pit of money, yet even more stupidly say the very board who you want to buy all these players, are shite. The same board who are running the club with a full ground, generating one of the top spending clubs, yet you still say other clubs who can't fill smaller grounds and spend and generate less money are better boards.....keep up the digging mate, you're an absolute scream as well as being a tit.

 

It also reflects that the club does NOT have a policy to make panic buys, and it also reflects the fact that wankers who think Shepherd is the manager, can't possibly be the manager either or all our ex managers would all have been making panic buys ..... I realise this won't fit your "opinions", but that is why your opinions are stupid and shite, because they are not based on facts.

 

Shame Meenzer's post didn't make you see what crap you are posting.

5th best opinions on here tbh

 

I was beginning to think you were one of the few sensible ones on here with a brain

Agree we dont always panic buy Leazes but can you honestly say we planned Sibierski and Rossi in the summer? i honestly cant. woodgate and Jenas were very well timed additions. As were Bellamy, Robert and Elliott - equally all were in positions we needed covering. Cant say we have don that this year for whatever reason. Maybe it is financial - first time i have heard oliver allude to meagre finances for a long time. to me if we had Owen right now and another central midfielder (as well as the obvious centre half and right back) then we would be ok - 4 players required i reckon as a minimum in jan and cant see it happening.

[LeazesMag 0]

That's pretty much his argument, yes. Good isn't it?

 

watertight tbh

 

so, you have nothing further to add that I have shown your statment that the club always buys players that are "panic buys", "pre transfer buys" and have "no planning" as utter shit of the highest order.. ...

 

 

You're a clever boy aren't you, making up things, rather than have a mind of your own and base your opinion on facts.

 

seriously. wtf are you talking about?

 

siberski, bernard, rossi were ALL panic buys. you can repeat your bullshit defence of shepherd until you're blue in the face - and i've no doubt you will - but if you refuse to accept this FACT then you're a moron.

 

i think even your hero shepherd would admit to it tbh.

 

Firstly, do you think we are the only club who make last minute buys ? Yes or no ? If you think we are, you are an idiot. And, if you think there is anything wrong with last minute short term buys when you can't get the people you want, you're an idiot.

 

And - the whole crust of this - is YOU SAID - or insinuated - ALL the clubs buys are "panic buys", "last minute transfer buys" and "lack planning". Do you accept that ALL the players I listed DO NOT fit this criteria, therefore all those players were bought at the behest and planning of the club, and were players wanted by the club ? So, which of those players were as you state, if this is what you think, and explain how.

 

They are listed in post number 42 in this thread.

 

Do you think a club qualifies for europe 7 times in a decade, and buys ALL these players, generating and spending the money that we have done, that " lacks foresight and planning", because if you do, then there are 87 other clubs who must be doing exactly the same, meaning for making such a stupid allegation, you are an idiot

 

Finally, nobody is my "hero", I am just stating facts rather than come out with the misinformed shite that you do.

 

When you have gave your view on all those players, you can also tell us who your knight in shining armour is that is going to be automatically better than what we already have, but as you think they are so shite, this should be an easy choice for you.

 

Come on, I'm waiting. In fact I asked you this earlier in the thread as well.

 

do you think that we planned to buy any of the players we ended up with? do you really think siberski, bernard and rossi were on the list of players that roeder gave to shepherd at the beginning of the summer?

 

we all know that we needed defenders yet we waited until the last week of the window before approaching alledged targets woodgate and huth and ended up with siberski, bernard and rossi.

 

why didn't we attempt to sign these players before then? doing business before the last week of the window means you can't go for a credible alternative if things go tits up ie not buying man city reserves.

 

in my view siberski, bernard and rossi are ALL panic buys. why? because we blew a blew £15M of an extremely limited budget on two players, one of whom despite his qualities we didn't really need. who handles the transfer budget?

 

surely the premiership's 5th greatest chairman knows that you don't sell players unless you've got better players coming in. we sold the likes of boumsong, bowyer, chopra and elliot - players who all had to go - yet somehow ended up with an inferior squad. siberski replaced bowyer, we didn't even replace boumsong and we've been kind enough to help develop a kid for man u.

 

it's not rocket science but then we are talking about the the same man that paid blackburn compensation to make souness our manager.

 

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

You are saying ALL our buys are panic buys, so I asked you to confirm you think that a minimum of 13 players are panic buys. You do not give a response on ANY of them.

 

And oddly - these 3 players you DO mention, are all only recent - if they are panic buys at all - which shows what you say is shite. They only reflect our current situation, whereby whatever we did we would have had to bring in a few squad players to replace the ones that the Scottish fuckpig was responsible for us losing or else go through the season with a small squad again.

 

This is the point that idiots like you fail to grasp, you actually think the club has a bottomless pit of money, yet even more stupidly say the very board who you want to buy all these players, are shite. The same board who are running the club with a full ground, generating one of the top spending clubs, yet you still say other clubs who can't fill smaller grounds and spend and generate less money are better boards.....keep up the digging mate, you're an absolute scream as well as being a tit.

 

It also reflects that the club does NOT have a policy to make panic buys, and it also reflects the fact that wankers who think Shepherd is the manager, can't possibly be the manager either or all our ex managers would all have been making panic buys ..... I realise this won't fit your "opinions", but that is why your opinions are stupid and shite, because they are not based on facts.

 

Shame Meenzer's post didn't make you see what crap you are posting.

5th best opinions on here tbh

 

I was beginning to think you were one of the few sensible ones on here with a brain

Agree we dont always panic buy Leazes but can you honestly say we planned Sibierski and Rossi in the summer? i honestly cant. woodgate and Jenas were very well timed additions. As were Bellamy, Robert and Elliott - equally all were in positions we needed covering. Cant say we have don that this year for whatever reason. Maybe it is financial - first time i have heard oliver allude to meagre finances for a long time. to me if we had Owen right now and another central midfielder (as well as the obvious centre half and right back) then we would be ok - 4 players required i reckon as a minimum in jan and cant see it happening.

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

[Dr Gloom 21760]

i'm going to sign off from this thread now but before i go, answer me - if you can - the questions that you have avoided throughout this debate.

 

1) were siberski, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

2) are you happy with our defence, given this is probably the weakest area of the squad going into the window

 

yes or no will do. go on i dare you.

 

1) Why do you keep saying that ALL our buys are panic buys? Was Owen a panic buy??

 

2) Doug Ellis wouldn't have spent 15 million on two attacking players in the first place, never mind not having any money left over to shore up the defence (other than signing Bernard in a panic, but WAS OWEN A PANIC BUY???)

 

Job done, Leazes, you can save your breath.

 

Absolutely, but I doubt the idiot will even read what you say.

 

He is proved completely wrong, and I knew he wouldn't answer.

 

[Dr Gloom 21760]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

Edited September 25, 2006 by Dan

[LeazesMag 0]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

[Dr Gloom 21760]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

 

no i didn't.

 

if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this.

 

and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally:

 

* are you happy with our defence going into this season?

 

* are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

[TyneBridge 0]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

 

no i didn't.

 

if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this.

 

and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally:

 

* are you happy with our defence going into this season?

 

* are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

the club went into the last few days of the transfer window having bought 2 forwards and having no money left ?

 

So what do you propose they should have done, or do you think we would be better off without those 3 players and a small squad.

 

In previous years most of the buys have been planned and at good times so why are you saying they are not

[Shearergol 0]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

 

no i didn't.

 

if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this.

 

and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally:

 

* are you happy with our defence going into this season?

 

* are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

the club went into the last few days of the transfer window having bought 2 forwards and having no money left ?

 

So what do you propose they should have done, or do you think we would be better off without those 3 players and a small squad.

 

In previous years most of the buys have been planned and at good times so why are you saying they are not

 

 

How did we bid for both Huth and Viduka then?

[Dr Gloom 21760]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

 

no i didn't.

 

if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this.

 

and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally:

 

* are you happy with our defence going into this season?

 

* are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

the club went into the last few days of the transfer window having bought 2 forwards and having no money left ?

 

So what do you propose they should have done, or do you think we would be better off without those 3 players and a small squad.

 

In previous years most of the buys have been planned and at good times so why are you saying they are not

 

i hoped we would manage a limited budget better.

 

it was obvious that we didn't have much money after shepherd thought it would be a good idea to give souness £50m to blow.

 

it was obvious that we needed new defenders. martins and duff may turn out to be good buys but we blew the entire budget on them meaning we went into the last week of the transfer window about 4 or 5 bodies short. we needed at least 3 defenders just to make up the numbers.

 

what did we get? bernard and siberski ie the shite left over on the final day of the window that no one else wanted.

[LeazesMag 0]

 

 

I am not saying they were planned. I am saying that in the real world, you have to make short term buys sometimes and due to the last manager Roeder is in a difficult situation, rather than the stupid opinion of Dan that the club "always" make panic buys. They do not. And I have put up facts to show they don't, and he knows he is wrong and is basically a stupid twat for thinking it in the first place and a wanker for ignoring the facts now that they have been posted.

 

You are right to draw attention to the clubs finances, as it governs the clubs policy in the short term, and only an absolute thick cunt would expect this situation not to impact on the clubs spending, sadly Dan - and one or two others - appear to fall into this category.

 

The fact that they also appear to think that the very board they think is "shit" can run a club miles superior than the vast majority, and find all the money they demand is also breathtakingly stupid.

 

 

leazes, the only thing you have proven is the ridiculous lengths you'll go in your unwavering defence of shepherd. you even excuse him for appointing souness for fuck's sake.

 

the majority of our summer signings were panic buys. FACT...whether you like it or not.

 

i'm going to drop it now...i mean it this time

 

ps - i'm still waiting for you to answer any of the questions i have put to you in this thread

 

YOU said the clubs buys are ALL panic buys.

 

I have pointed out the utter shite of this comment, and you know it, which is why you don't address my reply.

 

If these players are "short term buys" forced on the club due to the current situation - which despite your stupid naivety doesn't make us the only club that has made short term buys - then the alternative is that you obviously DO think the club has a bottomless pit of money. So - how come you expect a board you say is shit to have a bottomless pit of money.

 

You don't half talk some shite.

 

no i didn't.

 

if you re-read the thread, you'll find that what i actually said was that we approached the window with no plan or strategy and ended up with three panic buys in the final week of the window as a result. i find it funny that you even attempt to dispute this.

 

and i can't believe we're six pages in to this thread and you STILL haven't answered any of my questions. actually i can - it's almost as predictable as the panic buys we made in the transfer window. so finally:

 

* are you happy with our defence going into this season?

 

* are sibierksi, rossi and bernard panic buys?

 

the club went into the last few days of the transfer window having bought 2 forwards and having no money left ?

 

So what do you propose they should have done, or do you think we would be better off without those 3 players and a small squad.

 

In previous years most of the buys have been planned and at good times so why are you saying they are not

 

i hoped we would manage a imited budget better.

 

it was obvious that we didn't have much money after shepherd thought it would be a good idea to give souness £50m to blow.

 

it was obvious that we needed new defenders. martins and duff may turn out to be good buys but we blew the entire budget on them meaning we went into the last week of the transfer window about 4 or 5 bodies short. we needed at least 3 defenders just to make up the numbers.

 

what did we get? bernard and siberski ie the shite left over on the final day of the window that no one else wanted.

 

Let me see now. A "limited budget".

 

Please tell us how many clubs with good boards ie better than our shit one, matched a "limited budget" of 15m quid....or even got close by filling smaller stadiums .......

 

YOU obviously think we have plenty of money if you think we could buy half a team .....

 

If you didn;t want us to buy forwards, please tell us who exactly you think would be playing in attack now, having lost Owen and Shearer ?

 

And - if you think 15m quid would buy 4 or 5 players, then they would buy average players at best. The biggest mistake and the most short sighted policy of all is to buy average players who you will need to replace in a year or two, the best planning and strategy by a million miles is to buy, in the managers opinion, quality. Which is exactly what he has done.

 

If you can't see this, then you are - again - a fuckwit.

 

Roeders choice of players is nothing to do with the board. If you think we have made 3 "panic buys" then it is his fault, not the boards, particularly as you aren't disputing it didn't happen before.

 

Which also blows a hole in your theory that Shepherd is the manager, or it would have happened before.

 

How many of our current players do you consider to be "panic buys" ? And do you think that as you consider the 3 players you mention "panic buys" rather than see them correctly as squad players [and one of them is actually on loan so isn't even a "panic buy" or any buy] while the club looks around for more quality and gets more money together --- that we would be better off without them and have a squad of about 14 players ? If you do, then you are - again, a fuckwit.

 

As I said, if the club had bought a decent defender and a forward, who exactly do you think would be playing up front , would you be happy with that ? If Ameobi is out, would you then complain the club didn't bring in someone to cover him, having spent their money on a defender You would be complaining that the "shit" board didn't buy more forwards. Your total inability to do anything other than criticise what ever they do, whichever strategy they choose, is particularly cretinous and ridiculous especially when it comes on the back of you then expecting them to fund millions of pounds more than other boards who presumably you think are "better".

 

 

In MY opinion, buying 2 forwards - with the .....eeerr.... "limited Budget" [who very few match] was absolutely the main priority and if they succeed the defence will, and will have to, come next.

Edited September 26, 2006 by LeazesMag

[Gemmill 44109]

Never mind this thread, Leazes. Reply in the one where your entire forum existence is on the line. How will you survive without your 5th best, 87 clubs below us argument to fall back on when people point out that you're talking shit? Now all you have left is do you or do you not think it was a good idea to sell Craig Bellamy. You can't build a forum career on Craig Bellamy.

 

[Isegrim 9680]

Hey guys, what is going on in this thread? [/baron Fat]

[Missed Sticks 0]

 

Let me see now. A "limited budget".

 

Please tell us how many clubs with good boards ie better than our shit one, matched a "limited budget" of 15m quid....or even got close by filling smaller stadiums .......

 

YOU obviously think we have plenty of money if you think we could buy half a team .....

 

If you didn;t want us to buy forwards, please tell us who exactly you think would be playing in attack now, having lost Owen and Shearer ?

 

And - if you think 15m quid would buy 4 or 5 players, then they would buy average players at best. The biggest mistake and the most short sighted policy of all is to buy average players who you will need to replace in a year or two, the best planning and strategy by a million miles is to buy, in the managers opinion, quality. Which is exactly what he has done.

 

If you can't see this, then you are - again - a fuckwit.

 

Roeders choice of players is nothing to do with the board. If you think we have made 3 "panic buys" then it is his fault, not the boards, particularly as you aren't disputing it didn't happen before.

 

Which also blows a hole in your theory that Shepherd is the manager, or it would have happened before.

 

How many of our current players do you consider to be "panic buys" ? And do you think that as you consider the 3 players you mention "panic buys" rather than see them correctly as squad players [and one of them is actually on loan so isn't even a "panic buy" or any buy] while the club looks around for more quality and gets more money together --- that we would be better off without them and have a squad of about 14 players ? If you do, then you are - again, a fuckwit.

 

As I said, if the club had bought a decent defender and a forward, who exactly do you think would be playing up front , would you be happy with that ? If Ameobi is out, would you then complain the club didn't bring in someone to cover him, having spent their money on a defender You would be complaining that the "shit" board didn't buy more forwards. Your total inability to do anything other than criticise what ever they do, whichever strategy they choose, is particularly cretinous and ridiculous especially when it comes on the back of you then expecting them to fund millions of pounds more than other boards who presumably you think are "better".

 

 

In MY opinion, buying 2 forwards - with the .....eeerr.... "limited Budget" [who very few match] was absolutely the main priority and if they succeed the defence will, and will have to, come next.

 

Some of your points are well made but you're confusing me as to why you re-iterate the notion that we no longer had the resources to strengthen the defence. Your attitude borders on some sought of propaganda campaign!

1) A team can have the most limited budget, i.e. £0, and still sign Campbell, Woodgate (loan), Johnson (loan), Trabelsi (pay as you play). Why you keep forgetting this is quite bemusing.

2) The club made a late bid for Huth and Viduka proving there was more money to spend, therefore the budget wasn't as 'limited' as you presume.

The above are facts yet you seem to show no interest in consistently including them in your thinking.

 

As to whose fault it was that we didn't sign them, i don't know. I don't presume it was Shepherd, the club have spent heavily under his stewardship and for that i can have little complaint. But something went very wrong in our approach to the transfer window. We needed defenders and could have had them for an outlay of £0 yet we only signed Bernard, whose yet to play because he is sooooo out of practice.

 

We don't have to say who, because we don't know, but someone at NUFC f**ked up in no small way over the summer just gone. These are hardly revelations

[Renton 21052]

Never mind this thread, Leazes. Reply in the one where your entire forum existence is on the line. How will you survive without your 5th best, 87 clubs below us argument to fall back on when people point out that you're talking shit? Now all you have left is do you or do you not think it was a good idea to sell Craig Bellamy. You can't build a forum career on Craig Bellamy.

 

 

Keep this bumped.

 

Incidentally, has anyone notice how only one person in these threads has resorted to constant and petty name calling?

Edited September 27, 2006 by Renton

[Gemmill 44109]

It's class the way he's just not responding to it. "If I ignore it, the nasty boys will stop bringing it up sooner or later. Surely they will. "

[LeazesMag 0]

It's class the way he's just not responding to it. "If I ignore it, the nasty boys will stop bringing it up sooner or later. Surely they will. "

 

Unlike you, Gem dear friend.....I go to work and actually work .....

[LeazesMag 0]

Never mind this thread, Leazes. Reply in the one where your entire forum existence is on the line. How will you survive without your 5th best, 87 clubs below us argument to fall back on when people point out that you're talking shit? Now all you have left is do you or do you not think it was a good idea to sell Craig Bellamy. You can't build a forum career on Craig Bellamy.

 

 

Keep this bumped.

 

Incidentally, has anyone notice how only one person in these threads has resorted to constant and petty name calling?

 

Sadly, when someone really is a thick cunt, and continues to ignore facts, there remains little other options ..... and he's not the only one.

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Let me see now. A "limited budget".

 

Please tell us how many clubs with good boards ie better than our shit one, matched a "limited budget" of 15m quid....or even got close by filling smaller stadiums .......

 

YOU obviously think we have plenty of money if you think we could buy half a team .....

 

If you didn;t want us to buy forwards, please tell us who exactly you think would be playing in attack now, having lost Owen and Shearer ?

 

And - if you think 15m quid would buy 4 or 5 players, then they would buy average players at best. The biggest mistake and the most short sighted policy of all is to buy average players who you will need to replace in a year or two, the best planning and strategy by a million miles is to buy, in the managers opinion, quality. Which is exactly what he has done.

 

If you can't see this, then you are - again - a fuckwit.

 

Roeders choice of players is nothing to do with the board. If you think we have made 3 "panic buys" then it is his fault, not the boards, particularly as you aren't disputing it didn't happen before.

 

Which also blows a hole in your theory that Shepherd is the manager, or it would have happened before.

 

How many of our current players do you consider to be "panic buys" ? And do you think that as you consider the 3 players you mention "panic buys" rather than see them correctly as squad players [and one of them is actually on loan so isn't even a "panic buy" or any buy] while the club looks around for more quality and gets more money together --- that we would be better off without them and have a squad of about 14 players ? If you do, then you are - again, a fuckwit.

 

As I said, if the club had bought a decent defender and a forward, who exactly do you think would be playing up front , would you be happy with that ? If Ameobi is out, would you then complain the club didn't bring in someone to cover him, having spent their money on a defender You would be complaining that the "shit" board didn't buy more forwards. Your total inability to do anything other than criticise what ever they do, whichever strategy they choose, is particularly cretinous and ridiculous especially when it comes on the back of you then expecting them to fund millions of pounds more than other boards who presumably you think are "better".

 

 

In MY opinion, buying 2 forwards - with the .....eeerr.... "limited Budget" [who very few match] was absolutely the main priority and if they succeed the defence will, and will have to, come next.

 

Some of your points are well made but you're confusing me as to why you re-iterate the notion that we no longer had the resources to strengthen the defence. Your attitude borders on some sought of propaganda campaign!

1) A team can have the most limited budget, i.e. £0, and still sign Campbell, Woodgate (loan), Johnson (loan), Trabelsi (pay as you play). Why you keep forgetting this is quite bemusing.

2) The club made a late bid for Huth and Viduka proving there was more money to spend, therefore the budget wasn't as 'limited' as you presume.

The above are facts yet you seem to show no interest in consistently including them in your thinking.

 

As to whose fault it was that we didn't sign them, i don't know. I don't presume it was Shepherd, the club have spent heavily under his stewardship and for that i can have little complaint. But something went very wrong in our approach to the transfer window. We needed defenders and could have had them for an outlay of £0 yet we only signed Bernard, whose yet to play because he is sooooo out of practice.

 

We don't have to say who, because we don't know, but someone at NUFC f**ked up in no small way over the summer just gone. These are hardly revelations

 

I am not excusing anything. I realise we could have signed those players. However, does it simply not occur to you the manager didn't want them ?

 

And in my view, he is fully justified for not wanting Woodgate [as we have enough injury prone players], Campbell [looking for a last pay day and may not really have his heart in it] . As for players signing for Man City, it is slightly ironic that Newcastle fans are slagging off their club for not signing free transfer players, yet Man City fans are slagging off their club for signing free transfer players and not paying money for bargain players such as Damien Duff when they have the opportunity ?

 

So who, on this evidence, would like to swap our board with Man city ---- a club that has won domestic trophies and been ahead of us for the vast majority of the 30 years previous to our current board taking over the club.

 

Does it occur to you that the club may have been hoping for Huth and viduka;s fees to lower as the deadline approached ? Or do you think that as they are strapped for cash they should have spent it anyway ? And , surely if Huth signed for the smogs on deadline day it at least shows fuckwits like Dan that contrary to what he appears to think, making last minute transfer deals is hardly a phenonema dominated by only NUFC ?

How come the great chairman Steve gibson allows his club to get involved in "panic pre deadline transfers ?

 

The club cannot sign every player YOU think they should. Its unrealistic and daft tbh, but I suspect that YOU may realise that, unlike some of the more idiotic on here.

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Let me see now. A "limited budget".

 

Please tell us how many clubs with good boards ie better than our shit one, matched a "limited budget" of 15m quid....or even got close by filling smaller stadiums .......

 

YOU obviously think we have plenty of money if you think we could buy half a team .....

 

If you didn;t want us to buy forwards, please tell us who exactly you think would be playing in attack now, having lost Owen and Shearer ?

 

And - if you think 15m quid would buy 4 or 5 players, then they would buy average players at best. The biggest mistake and the most short sighted policy of all is to buy average players who you will need to replace in a year or two, the best planning and strategy by a million miles is to buy, in the managers opinion, quality. Which is exactly what he has done.

 

If you can't see this, then you are - again - a fuckwit.

 

Roeders choice of players is nothing to do with the board. If you think we have made 3 "panic buys" then it is his fault, not the boards, particularly as you aren't disputing it didn't happen before.

 

Which also blows a hole in your theory that Shepherd is the manager, or it would have happened before.

 

How many of our current players do you consider to be "panic buys" ? And do you think that as you consider the 3 players you mention "panic buys" rather than see them correctly as squad players [and one of them is actually on loan so isn't even a "panic buy" or any buy] while the club looks around for more quality and gets more money together --- that we would be better off without them and have a squad of about 14 players ? If you do, then you are - again, a fuckwit.

 

As I said, if the club had bought a decent defender and a forward, who exactly do you think would be playing up front , would you be happy with that ? If Ameobi is out, would you then complain the club didn't bring in someone to cover him, having spent their money on a defender You would be complaining that the "shit" board didn't buy more forwards. Your total inability to do anything other than criticise what ever they do, whichever strategy they choose, is particularly cretinous and ridiculous especially when it comes on the back of you then expecting them to fund millions of pounds more than other boards who presumably you think are "better".

 

 

In MY opinion, buying 2 forwards - with the .....eeerr.... "limited Budget" [who very few match] was absolutely the main priority and if they succeed the defence will, and will have to, come next.

 

Some of your points are well made but you're confusing me as to why you re-iterate the notion that we no longer had the resources to strengthen the defence. Your attitude borders on some sought of propaganda campaign!

1) A team can have the most limited budget, i.e. £0, and still sign Campbell, Woodgate (loan), Johnson (loan), Trabelsi (pay as you play). Why you keep forgetting this is quite bemusing.

2) The club made a late bid for Huth and Viduka proving there was more money to spend, therefore the budget wasn't as 'limited' as you presume.

The above are facts yet you seem to show no interest in consistently including them in your thinking.

 

As to whose fault it was that we didn't sign them, i don't know. I don't presume it was Shepherd, the club have spent heavily under his stewardship and for that i can have little complaint. But something went very wrong in our approach to the transfer window. We needed defenders and could have had them for an outlay of £0 yet we only signed Bernard, whose yet to play because he is sooooo out of practice.

 

We don't have to say who, because we don't know, but someone at NUFC f**ked up in no small way over the summer just gone. These are hardly revelations

 

I am not excusing anything. I realise we could have signed those players. However, does it simply not occur to you the manager didn't want them ?

 

And in my view, he is fully justified for not wanting Woodgate [as we have enough injury prone players], Campbell [looking for a last pay day and may not really have his heart in it] . As for players signing for Man City, it is slightly ironic that Newcastle fans are slagging off their club for not signing free transfer players, yet Man City fans are slagging off their club for signing free transfer players and not paying money for bargain players such as Damien Duff when they have the opportunity ?

 

So who, on this evidence, would like to swap our board with Man city ---- a club that has won domestic trophies and been ahead of us for the vast majority of the 30 years previous to our current board taking over the club.

 

Does it occur to you that the club may have been hoping for Huth and viduka;s fees to lower as the deadline approached ? Or do you think that as they are strapped for cash they should have spent it anyway ? And , surely if Huth signed for the smogs on deadline day it at least shows fuckwits like Dan that contrary to what he appears to think, making last minute transfer deals is hardly a phenonema dominated by only NUFC ?

How come the great chairman Steve gibson allows his club to get involved in "panic pre deadline transfers ?

 

The club cannot sign every player YOU think they should. Its unrealistic and daft tbh, but I suspect that YOU may realise that, unlike some of the more idiotic on here.

 

Some of your post does not really seem as a response to mine so i expect you are feeling you are having to answer lots of people in one go, sympathies extended.

 

Re: Bit in bold. That is my completely uninformed reading of the situation. Roeder obviousley passed over the players we've mentioned because he believed he could get someone more suitable. Unfortunately, he didn't. I might also add that the players mentioned are an improvement on our current squad, imo. What i find puzzling is that there was no evident 'plan B.' Roeder said (after signing Martins) that he really didn't have anyone else in mind and i didn't believe him (at the time). However, the lack of any alternative to Huth has made me rethink. Personally, i find this a very naive way for a Prem manager to plan.