Scottish Mag 3 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 That is how much we have spent since the end of the 03/04 season. A season where we ended as disgruntled supporters not happy with how the season had panned out, what I would give to go back to then.. Given, Harper, Caig Hughes, Griffin, Caldwell, O'Brien, Woodgate, Bramble, Bernard, Elliott Ambrose, Bowyer, Speed, Dyer, Viana, Robert, Jenas Shearer, Ameobi, Bellamy, Lua Lua Even Chopra and Taylor had been involved at some points over the season. That is the squad we ended the season with. Whilst I'm sure it will be open to debate as to who was actually any good and there could be arguments as to whether it is any better than what we currently have the fact remains that 75 million has been spent to try and "improve" that squad something we can certainly say has not been done. A summer in which Chelsea and Liverpool both sacked their managers and brought in Mourinho and Benitez and have went from strength to strength god knows how we have managed to let it all go tits up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 When you put it in that context, it's even more shocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 133 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Guilty as charged! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I was thinking about it earlier and our current first XI is probably as good as Robson's, if not better in some areas. (the defence as inidividuals are certainly pretty much of a similar standard). I do think that a lack of goals this season has proven the biggest issue, with the Shearer/Bellamy partnership of Robson the notable difference between then and now. But potentially we have a similar mix if it all clicks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9680 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 The only thing that made a difference between the mediocre teams in the late 90s team + the team now and the team between 2001-2004 were Bellamy and Robert (sporadically). FORZA FACTA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21050 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I was thinking about it earlier and our current first XI is probably as good as Robson's, if not better in some areas. (the defence as inidividuals are certainly pretty much of a similar standard). I do think that a lack of goals this season has proven the biggest issue, with the Shearer/Bellamy partnership of Robson the notable difference between then and now. But potentially we have a similar mix if it all clicks. Insane post alert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3788 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I was thinking about it earlier and our current first XI is probably as good as Robson's, if not better in some areas. (the defence as inidividuals are certainly pretty much of a similar standard). I do think that a lack of goals this season has proven the biggest issue, with the Shearer/Bellamy partnership of Robson the notable difference between then and now. But potentially we have a similar mix if it all clicks. Insane post alert. Blame Achilles he pushed it in too far and it has damaged his brain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Patrokles Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I was thinking about it earlier and our current first XI is probably as good as Robson's, if not better in some areas. (the defence as inidividuals are certainly pretty much of a similar standard). I do think that a lack of goals this season has proven the biggest issue, with the Shearer/Bellamy partnership of Robson the notable difference between then and now. But potentially we have a similar mix if it all clicks. Insane post alert. Alright, point out where: Given Hughes, O'Brien, Bramble/Occasionally Woodgate, Bernard Solano, Speed, Acuna/Dyer/Jenas, Robert Bellamy, Shearer is so much better than: Given Carr, Moore, Bramble/Taylor, Bernard Milner/Solano/Duff, Parker, Emre, N'Zogbia/Duff Ameobi/Rossi, Martins. IF, as I said in my above post, the second line-up 'clicks' in an attacking sense. Then apologise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I partly agree in that, potentially at least, our first XI is pretty good. How thin is our squad though? Scary tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6455 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 How much $$$$ have we received since then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19807 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Gutted, Socts you love making us all feel shitty at the moment dont you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21050 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 I was thinking about it earlier and our current first XI is probably as good as Robson's, if not better in some areas. (the defence as inidividuals are certainly pretty much of a similar standard). I do think that a lack of goals this season has proven the biggest issue, with the Shearer/Bellamy partnership of Robson the notable difference between then and now. But potentially we have a similar mix if it all clicks. Insane post alert. Alright, point out where: Given Hughes, O'Brien, Bramble/Occasionally Woodgate, Bernard Solano, Speed, Acuna/Dyer/Jenas, Robert Bellamy, Shearer is so much better than: Given Carr, Moore, Bramble/Taylor, Bernard Milner/Solano/Duff, Parker, Emre, N'Zogbia/Duff Ameobi/Rossi, Martins. IF, as I said in my above post, the second line-up 'clicks' in an attacking sense. Then apologise. I think you'll find that football is about opinions, I think our previous first 11 was far better in both defence and certainly attack, and this is of course before you take into account how desperately thin the squad now is. Mind, I assume actually that what you really are talking about is the squad though, as you are listing options there, not a straight full strength first 11. Although conveniently you omit more of the options we previously had available. Never mind also the point of the thread starter that it has cost us 75 MILLION to get to what is surely a worse squad and imo a worse starting 11. But if you're right and we really are as good as we were 4 years ago I guess I'll be enjoying a competitive season this year followed by Champions League football, won't I? Or is the manager solely to blame for our dismal form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 14011 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 To be honest are Squad is good on paper..but tends to play fucking shite.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21050 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 To be honest are Squad is good on paper..but tends to play fucking shite.. I don't agree. No team with Ameobi or Bramble in it looks good on paper to me. Martins and Rossi I have yet to make my mind up about but I'm sceptical. Bramble aside, I don't rate any of our defence, not even Taylor (Given excepted). Fair enough, we have some quality in midfield but that is not enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBass 2630 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Surely if you're including Mssrs Woodgate, Dyer and Bellamy in our 03/04 squad then you have to include Owen and Dyer in our current squad, thus: Given Carr, Moore, Bramble, Taylor, Ramage, Bernard, Baba Milner, Solano, Duff, Parker, Emre, N'Zogbia, Dyer Owen, Ameobi, Rossi, Martins So, on form, I think you can pick a starting 11 out of that lot that would be better than our 03/04 starting 11. Though, given the amount of money we've spent, you'd exepect us to have a far better squad than we currently have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21050 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 Surely if you're including Mssrs Woodgate, Dyer and Bellamy in our 03/04 squad then you have to include Owen and Dyer in our current squad, thus: Given Carr, Moore, Bramble, Taylor, Ramage, Bernard, Baba Milner, Solano, Duff, Parker, Emre, N'Zogbia, Dyer Owen, Ameobi, Rossi, Martins So, on form, I think you can pick a starting 11 out of that lot that would be better than our 03/04 starting 11. Though, given the amount of money we've spent, you'd exepect us to have a far better squad than we currently have. Although in reality there is a good chance Owen will never be the same again, Dyer will never offer what he once did (which is not much), Bramble hasn't improved, Bernard has turned to shit, and Solano is probably past it. If the full strength team of 2003 played the one of 2006, who would win? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pica pica 0 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 money from season tickets since 03/04: £83m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 money from season tickets since 03/04: £83m You claim in another thread that season tickets don't pay for players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pica pica 0 Posted September 12, 2006 Share Posted September 12, 2006 money from season tickets since 03/04: £83m You claim in another thread that season tickets don't pay for players plus wages - they don't play for nowt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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