Dr Gloom 22147 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) this lad isn't getting any younger. for all his potential, pace and strength, he is still making elementary mistakes that are losing us games. i blame bramble for the defeat on saturday - both their goals came from titus ball watching and losing his man. he's a liability and i don't see how at 24 he is going to get much better. why oh why didn't we buy a commanding centre half in the transfer window? i can't believe we've stuck with bramble when sol campbell was going on a free. Edited September 11, 2006 by Dan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm inclined to agree. That's not knee-jerk btw, it's an assessment of his whole NUFC career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Yep....he just watched the ball like he was powerless to intervene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Edited September 11, 2006 by Asprilla's foreskin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20725 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The goals we conceded at the weekend were schoolboy tbh, shocking! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 this lad isn't getting any younger. for all his potential, pace and strength, he is still making elementary mistakes that are losing us games. i blame bramble for the defeat on saturday - both their goals came from titus ball watching and losing his man. he's a liability and i don't see how at 24 he is going to get much better. why oh why didn't we buy a commanding centre half in the transfer window? i can't believe we've stuck with bramble when sol campbell was going on a free. Spot on, every word. There was also some comical defending earlier in the game that could easily have resulted in a goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JawD 99 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 He was shocking at the weekend. The first goal was crap or non-existant defending all round. But, two main things stuck out. They got past Ramage who had been getting turned inside out all game. Then Bramble left it to go past him as if he'd had a shout. Comical. He only got worse after that as in the last 10 mins they took the piss out of our whole defence. All that against mighty Fulham. Well, this is our easy start to the season eh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Ramage is awful at left back. I would have played Bernard with no match fitness or Zog at left back ahead of Ramage. Like JawD says, the way they skipped past him for the first goal, we literally may as well have had 10 men on the pitch. Mind, Zog's crossing at the weekend was desperado. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 It seems that Roeder quickly saw that Boumsong was not good enough surely the penny will drop regarding Bramble too and soon before we throw away more points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10963 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Off the top I can think of three center halves we feasibly could have signed (Woodgate, Huth and Campbell), for little, if any, outlay. Instead we overstock the forward line, yes we needed a striker, but we didn't need Antoine Sibierski as well as Martins and Rossi Bernards return could be beneficial and Martins may come good, Rossi is a decent signing on loan... but I cannot for the life of me understand why we haven't signed a center half. Sure, Campbell is old now, but even at his age he's a damned sight sharper that Titus Bramble. what are the laws surrounding loan or free signings outside of the transfer window? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Off the top I can think of three center halves we feasibly could have signed (Woodgate, Huth and Campbell), for little, if any, outlay. Instead we overstock the forward line, yes we needed a striker, but we didn't need Antoine Sibierski as well as Martins and Rossi Bernards return could be beneficial and Martins may come good, Rossi is a decent signing on loan... but I cannot for the life of me understand why we haven't signed a center half. Sure, Campbell is old now, but even at his age he's a damned sight sharper that Titus Bramble. what are the laws surrounding loan or free signings outside of the transfer window? Like Hansen said on MOTD, "Signing Campbell was a no-brainer". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Off the top I can think of three center halves we feasibly could have signed (Woodgate, Huth and Campbell), for little, if any, outlay. Instead we overstock the forward line, yes we needed a striker, but we didn't need Antoine Sibierski as well as Martins and Rossi Bernards return could be beneficial and Martins may come good, Rossi is a decent signing on loan... but I cannot for the life of me understand why we haven't signed a center half. Sure, Campbell is old now, but even at his age he's a damned sight sharper that Titus Bramble. what are the laws surrounding loan or free signings outside of the transfer window? Agree, apart from Huth who cost a packet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tooj 17 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 134 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Bramble would struggle to get a job stacking shelves in Netto if he finished playing football tomorrow. It makes no logical sense to offer the buffoon a new contract, but he is in effect worth nothing in todays transfer market except maybe a very nominal fee. The hierarchy will look to not write off the money we've pissed down the river already in transfer fee/wages by offering him an extension to his contract. Roeder will be moving the Club forward by telling Bramble he will be leaving at the end of his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. 06.2007 according to .com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOPTOON 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. 06.2007 according to .com Sorry i sarted another Shambles thread didn't see this one! June 2007 right that will do me. Don't play him unless we absolutely have to, as Moore and taylor should 100% be first choice Ramage after them (ok he's certainly no LB) and try and get something (anything) for him in Jan if not just give him away. The guy gives me nightmares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1260 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 The sooner he's out of the team the better tbh. He's looked poor right from the off this season and the last two games he's cost us goals we should not be conceding. Also by all accounts we were pumping long balls into the front two again on Saturday (fortunately I didn't get back from my hols in time for the match) and I assume that as usual Bramble and Given were the major culprits for this. Getting Taylor in might not just strengthen our defence but also improve our passing. Oh and sorry to go off topic but why the fuck did we sign that plank from Citeh? Not good enough for the makems from what I've seen of him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. Thank goodness for that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 No one mentioned his 60 yard cross field passes to the ball boy yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ugly Mackems 134 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. Thank goodness for that! Don't be pleased mate. He WILL be offered a new contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 If we offer him a new contract Roeder really has lost the plot. When is it up? Next summer i think. Thank goodness for that! Don't be pleased mate. He WILL be offered a new contract. You're joking!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 what are the laws surrounding loan or free signings outside of the transfer window? Free signings can be made as the as the player is not currently attached to a club. Don't think there will be many commanding centre halves kicking there heels at the moment unfortunately. I've stood up for Titus in the past but he continues to disappoint. A new contract would be madness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9899 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 As I said after the Villa match, giving him a new contract would be stupidity. He is a total liability as a player, because you just can't rely on him. He is costing us far too many points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gram 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 I'm usually very forgiving but he has had one chance too many now. Has all the physical attributes but needs to go somewhere else. Still cant believe we didnt make and better attempt at getting Woodgate. Love watching him play - even if it is for 3 matches a season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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