Happy Face 29 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just as a quick aside, what was it that happened in Monaco '04 relating to Schumi? I can't seem to remember, was it something in qualifying? He pressed a button on his dashboard and blades came out of the side of his tyres, mangling his opponent's car. It'll either be that or the infamous "Oil Slick" button. If only - now that would make F1 worth watching. It's disgusting the effort they're making to hand the title to Ferrari/Schumacher. I don't mind the bloke, but you'd think he'd come out and defend Alonso like everyone else has. The whole moving parts wing debacle is another scam too. And why do all the other teams have to make a lump sum payment to Ferrari for their historic 'contribution' to the sport? It's a crock. Almost lost as much credibility as heavyweight boxing and the Tour De France. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just as a quick aside, what was it that happened in Monaco '04 relating to Schumi? I can't seem to remember, was it something in qualifying? Schumacher brake tested Montoya under the safety car and JPM went straight up his arse IIRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just as a quick aside, what was it that happened in Monaco '04 relating to Schumi? I can't seem to remember, was it something in qualifying? Schumacher brake tested Montoya under the safety car and JPM went straight up his arse IIRC. Yup, which sent Schumacher crashing into the barriers and it was, of course, all JPM's fault! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 As a Ferrari tifosi I'm sorry to see him go, but as someone who enjoyed the 'balls on the line' driving of Gilles Villeneuve and Jean Alesi in red 27, I'm quite looking forward to seeing what the firey Kimi Raikkonen can do in the car. Yep, i agree with that! Big Kimi fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Just as a quick aside, what was it that happened in Monaco '04 relating to Schumi? I can't seem to remember, was it something in qualifying? He pressed a button on his dashboard and blades came out of the side of his tyres, mangling his opponent's car. It'll either be that or the infamous "Oil Slick" button. If only - now that would make F1 worth watching. It's disgusting the effort they're making to hand the title to Ferrari/Schumacher. Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. I would have liked to have seen the interview with Alonso if they had done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. I would have liked to have seen the interview with Alonso if they had done He didn't gain any places from it, did he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. I would have liked to have seen the interview with Alonso if they had done He didn't gain any places from it, did he? Overtook Heidfeld although you could argue that the move was completed prior to the corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. I would have liked to have seen the interview with Alonso if they had done He didn't gain any places from it, did he? Overtook Heidfeld although you could argue that the move was completed prior to the corner. The move was only completed because he didnt slow down to make the chicane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. I would have liked to have seen the interview with Alonso if they had done He didn't gain any places from it, did he? Overtook Heidfeld although you could argue that the move was completed prior to the corner. The move was only completed because he didnt slow down to make the chicane Meh! Mebeez they were planning to pull him in but he blew out anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Former world champion Damon Hill says Michael Schumacher's decision to retire at the end of the season is "brave". Schumacher won his first world title in 1994 at Hill's expense, after a clash forced them both off the track at the Australian Grand Prix. "It's a brave decision to stop doing something he loves," Hill said. "We sort of know how he'll be remembered but over time his successes will mark an era when his dedication to winning gave the championship colour." Nicely put Damon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso should have had a drive through penalty for mising the chicane during the race tbh. You mean in the same way Schumacher should have done in Hungary? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Former world champion Damon Hill says Michael Schumacher's decision to retire at the end of the season is "brave". Schumacher won his first world title in 1994 at Hill's expense, after a clash forced them both off the track at the Australian Grand Prix. "It's a brave decision to stop doing something he loves," Hill said. "We sort of know how he'll be remembered but over time his successes will mark an era when his dedication to winning gave the championship colour." Nicely put Damon. Bitter twat tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Former world champion Damon Hill says Michael Schumacher's decision to retire at the end of the season is "brave". Schumacher won his first world title in 1994 at Hill's expense, after a clash forced them both off the track at the Australian Grand Prix. "It's a brave decision to stop doing something he loves," Hill said. "We sort of know how he'll be remembered but over time his successes will mark an era when his dedication to winning gave the championship colour." Nicely put Damon. Bitter twat tbh Robbed of what should have been his first WDC tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Noone kicked up much of a fuss when Senna done it, well....apart from Prost that is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Former world champion Damon Hill says Michael Schumacher's decision to retire at the end of the season is "brave". Schumacher won his first world title in 1994 at Hill's expense, after a clash forced them both off the track at the Australian Grand Prix. "It's a brave decision to stop doing something he loves," Hill said. "We sort of know how he'll be remembered but over time his successes will mark an era when his dedication to winning gave the championship colour." Nicely put Damon. Bitter twat tbh Far from bitter I thought. Quite gentlemanly considering their history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Noone kicked up much of a fuss when Senna done it, well....apart from Prost that is. As was said before, Senna told the FIA either they swap the grid over so that Pole Position was on the clean side of the track or he would make sure he went into the first corner first whether Prost was there or not. Can't say he didn't stick to his word. Incidentally my feelings about Senna pretty much matched those I have of Schumacher up until about 1992 when I saw what he did with an absolute pile of shit which was the McLaren. You couldn't help but have respect for the man for what he achieved against the dominating Williams'... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Noone kicked up much of a fuss when Senna done it, well....apart from Prost that is. As was said before, Senna told the FIA either they swap the grid over so that Pole Position was on the clean side of the track or he would make sure he went into the first corner first whether Prost was there or not. Can't say he didn't stick to his word. Incidentally my feelings about Senna pretty much matched those I have of Schumacher up until about 1992 when I saw what he did with an absolute pile of shit which was the McLaren. You couldn't help but have respect for the man for what he achieved against the dominating Williams'... I am the same with Schumacher, I hated him until Damon Hill retired, but as he took Ferrarri back to the head of the field I completely changed my opinion and now he is the reason I still watch F1. I dont think there has been a better driver, and next year will be poorer without him. Alonso Raikinen and the rest just bore me tbh. Mind you Lewis Hamilton- now there is a driver Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Alonso in a McLaren against Raikkonen in a Ferrari is a mouthwatering prospect. I'm predicting a very close battle but equally, a very fair one too. I also expect Renault to 'fall away' somewhat in the same way they did when Schumacher left them in 1995 (when they were Benetton). It's Alonso's driving rather than the Renault's supremecy which has made that a front-running car IMO. BTW, don't know if you're aware Dr Ken, but Red Bull have managed to broker a deal to have Renault engines next year. Thing is, Ferrari insist that they have a deal to supply Red Bull so it sounds like their junior team (Torro Rosso) will have the Renault blocks... So that will be four Adrian Newey designed cars, two with Ferrari engines and two with Renault engines. That ought to be something to keep an eye on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 Incidentally my feelings about Senna pretty much matched those I have of Schumacher up until about 1992 when I saw what he did with an absolute pile of shit which was the McLaren. You couldn't help but have respect for the man for what he achieved against the dominating Williams'... Senna, opening lap, wet race at Donington. Best. Lap. Ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 BTW, don't know if you're aware Dr Ken, but Red Bull have managed to broker a deal to have Renault engines next year. Thing is, Ferrari insist that they have a deal to supply Red Bull so it sounds like their junior team (Torro Rosso) will have the Renault blocks... So that will be four Adrian Newey designed cars, two with Ferrari engines and two with Renault engines. That ought to be something to keep an eye on... I heard that the Renault customer engine deal was almost done. Could be very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Incidentally my feelings about Senna pretty much matched those I have of Schumacher up until about 1992 when I saw what he did with an absolute pile of shit which was the McLaren. You couldn't help but have respect for the man for what he achieved against the dominating Williams'... Senna, opening lap, wet race at Donington. Best. Lap. Ever. Absolutely agree and in an absolute dogshit car! Senna in a wet race full stop to be honest - there were so many examples, Monaco 84, Estoril 85 and Donnington 93 immediately spring to mind. Grates me when they claim Schumacher is the best ever in the wet - good, but not a patch on Senna... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 (edited) Alonso in a McLaren against Raikkonen in a Ferrari is a mouthwatering prospect. I'm predicting a very close battle but equally, a very fair one too. Unless McLaren can sort their reliability out then I think Raikkonen will romp away with the championship. Incidentally my feelings about Senna pretty much matched those I have of Schumacher up until about 1992 when I saw what he did with an absolute pile of shit which was the McLaren. You couldn't help but have respect for the man for what he achieved against the dominating Williams'... It also helped that he had Andretti to make him look even better than he was Seriously though, I'll never forget seeing that first lap of Donington in the European GP where he went from 5th to 1st. It was made even more impressive when you realised how much of a dog the McLaren was. As if the Ford customer V8's weren't bad enough, they were barely compatible with the electronics system McLaren ran. Senna proved his class that year. EDIT: Craig, Dr Ken etc. You may appreciate this website - http://www.f1rejects.com/ Dedicated to the best of the worst Edited September 11, 2006 by Ted Maul Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Nice link Skol. Knew damned well that Perry 'The original Stig' McCarthy would be included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Author Share Posted September 11, 2006 How much were this lot trying to look like Ferrari? I bet their logo was a prancing donkey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted Maul 0 Posted September 11, 2006 Share Posted September 11, 2006 Nice link Skol. Knew damned well that Perry 'The original Stig' McCarthy would be included http://www.ayrton-senna.com/senna/suzuka.html Here's another for you. A supposed transcript of the Senna/Irvine fight that took place in 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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