Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I've received this worrying email today. Now I would normally ignore any scams or any kind of threat, but they have my address....! Tell me what you think I should do after reading this because I did a search for that group and persons name and while the company's name exists it doesn't appear to be anything to do with a security department. I can't find the name Adrian Grace there either. Dear (My full name) We are committed to protecting you, with the latest technology to keep your details secure, and dedicated teams to monitor online activity and intercept any suspicious actions. And we do everything we can to protect our online customers, but the steps we take can be much more effective if you work with us to protect yourself. 21 August 2006 our security system detected an unsuccessfull access attempt to your online account from Ip address 81.190.253.29 that does not correspond to your current address. (My full address including postcode) Please click here to confirm your current address or change it online. If you do not confirm your address until 24 August 2006 your account will be SUSPENDED for security reasons and we will send you an Activation Code by post which you will need to renew your online banking service access. You will receive this within seven days if your current address is not confirmed. Yours sincerely Adrian Grace Security Department Alliance & Leicester Group If this is legit then it sounds like I seriously need a good security package. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 In the topic of the email it says 'banking alert' too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Ring your bank. That's the only way you can be sure with stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Dont click on the link to verify your address. I'd either ring or email (but dont use 'reply') their customer services and tell them youve received the email. Does your email allow you to view additional info about message headers??? hotmail lets me and i get this extra info Received: from client124.email-bureau.co.uk ([212.188.133.74]) by bay0-mc8-f12.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2444); Tue, 1 Aug 2006 17:31:52 -0700 Received: from unknown (HELO cd-wow.com) ([172.31.0.22]) by client124.email-bureau.co.uk with SMTP; 02 Aug 2006 01:31:49 +0000 X-Message-Info: LsUYwwHHNt0FNUDgBe3MKXVpoAWc9K7OMLkvpLI3Ol0= X-Mailer: eBizmailer3.6 Return-Path: cdwow.return@client124.email-bureau.co.uk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2006 00:31:53.0003 (UTC) FILETIME=[0D2317B0:01C6B5CB] When was the last time you ran a FULL virus and adware scan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 By the way, it sounds like bollocks though because why shouldn't you attempt to access your account from an IP address which isn't your home address? Surely that's the beauty of internet banking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 My last scan was yesterday. There's upades from the softwarre I have (AVG) every day too. Do you mean like this Lazarus? eceived: from smtp-in2.blueyonder.co.uk ([172.23.146.13]) by cluster4 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:02:07 +0100 Received: from eback02.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.213]) by smtp-in2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:02:07 +0100 Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by eback02.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF06K-0001i8-Sb for my email ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:05:20 +0100 Received: from [68.84.213.48] (helo=143572072) by exim8.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF06J-0007YB-OH for my email; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:05:20 +0100 Received: from mybusinessbank.co.uk (135318000 [145642968]) by c-68-84-213-48.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (Qmailv1) with ESMTP id 400E7F1152 for <my email>; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:25 -0700 Reply-To: alerts <alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk> From: alerts <alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk> To: my name <my email> Subject: Banking Alert Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <111101c6c4c7$1429c530$6cb8359a@mybusinessbank.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Envelope-To: my email Return-Path: alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2006 03:02:07.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[30423430:01C6C4CE] X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.405 [268.11.3/423] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-44E9733C2CEC=======" I think I'll give the bank a ring, like. Can't have this if they've got my full address and everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 My last scan was yesterday. There's upades from the softwarre I have (AVG) every day too. Do you mean like this Lazarus? eceived: from smtp-in2.blueyonder.co.uk ([172.23.146.13]) by cluster4 with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:02:07 +0100 Received: from eback02.blueyonder.co.uk ([195.188.53.213]) by smtp-in2.blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:02:07 +0100 Received: from [172.23.170.136] (helo=anti-virus01-07) by eback02.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF06K-0001i8-Sb for my email ; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:05:20 +0100 Received: from [68.84.213.48] (helo=143572072) by exim8.blueyonder.co.uk with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1GF06J-0007YB-OH for my email; Mon, 21 Aug 2006 04:05:20 +0100 Received: from mybusinessbank.co.uk (135318000 [145642968]) by c-68-84-213-48.hsd1.pa.comcast.net (Qmailv1) with ESMTP id 400E7F1152 for <my email>; Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:25 -0700 Reply-To: alerts <alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk> From: alerts <alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk> To: my name <my email> Subject: Banking Alert Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 19:15:25 -0700 Message-ID: <111101c6c4c7$1429c530$6cb8359a@mybusinessbank.co.uk> X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2605 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Envelope-To: my email Return-Path: alerts@mybusinessbank.co.uk X-OriginalArrivalTime: 21 Aug 2006 03:02:07.0859 (UTC) FILETIME=[30423430:01C6C4CE] X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.405 [268.11.3/423] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=======AVGMAIL-44E9733C2CEC=======" I think I'll give the bank a ring, like. Can't have this if they've got my full address and everything. 181682[/snapback] Looks as though it may be genuine - but still ring them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Its junk the stupid bastards can get your most of your details far too easily i had my web browser tell me i was infected for about a week and i should dl X and Y and Z untill i found the fucking spyware stupid thing took around 8 full scans. There getting better and better at it Don't click the link if your not sure simply ring your bank and ask if its legit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Why would the bank threaten to suspend you for accessing your account from two different IP addresses though? I regularly access mine from work or home and my bank have never said anything. What's the point if you can only do it from one IP address?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Sry forgot about this i thought it was standard policy that most banks and companies DO NOT ask u to vertifie private information through an e-mail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] Have you ever taken out a loan, mortgage, had a current account or a credit card etc etc with the alliance and leicester??? http://whois.domaintools.com/mybusinessbank.co.uk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? 181688[/snapback] I realised it was fake from the moment I saw it. What worries me is the fact that they have my full name, address & postcode along with the threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 Sry forgot about this i thought it was standard policy that most banks and companies DO NOT ask u to vertifie private information through an e-mail 181689[/snapback] That's right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fordy 1 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) If they get some sort of spyware on your comp which is pathetically easy nowadays they simply get that info from your web browser Edited August 21, 2006 by Fordy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44894 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? 181688[/snapback] I realised it was fake from the moment I saw it. What worries me is the fact that they have my full name, address & postcode along with the threat. 181693[/snapback] It probably isn't that hard to get someone's address and email address tbh. There are companies selling info like that all the time. You haven't applied for any free razors lately, have you? I won't go near those sort of offers, cos all it does is quadruple the junk mail coming through your door. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? 181688[/snapback] I realised it was fake from the moment I saw it. What worries me is the fact that they have my full name, address & postcode along with the threat. 181693[/snapback] It probably isn't that hard to get someone's address and email address tbh. There are companies selling info like that all the time. You haven't applied for any free razors lately, have you? I won't go near those sort of offers, cos all it does is quadruple the junk mail coming through your door. 181698[/snapback] No it isnt - do a 'people' search here http://www.b4usearch.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] Have you ever taken out a loan, mortgage, had a current account or a credit card etc etc with the alliance and leicester??? http://whois.domaintools.com/mybusinessbank.co.uk 181691[/snapback] I've had nothing to do with them as far as I'm aware. Everything has been through Lloyds. I've never got a loan for anything and do have to get a mortgage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
themags 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 21 August 2006 our security system detected an unsuccessfull access attempt to your online accountfrom Ip address 81.190.253.29 that does not correspond to your current address. must people dont have static ip addresses so how would they know this was or wasnt you. your chance to have a dynamic ip address which changes everytime you start your broadband connection definetly a fake, but the fact they have your name and address is worrying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] Have you ever taken out a loan, mortgage, had a current account or a credit card etc etc with the alliance and leicester??? http://whois.domaintools.com/mybusinessbank.co.uk 181691[/snapback] I've had nothing to do with them as far as I'm aware. Everything has been through Lloyds. I've never got a loan for anything and do have to get a mortgage. 181701[/snapback] What about through work? ever had a business loan?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? 181688[/snapback] I realised it was fake from the moment I saw it. What worries me is the fact that they have my full name, address & postcode along with the threat. 181693[/snapback] It probably isn't that hard to get someone's address and email address tbh. There are companies selling info like that all the time. You haven't applied for any free razors lately, have you? I won't go near those sort of offers, cos all it does is quadruple the junk mail coming through your door. 181698[/snapback] I don't think I have, but if I have done so then it's possibly it could have also been opted to a 3rd party too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] Have you ever taken out a loan, mortgage, had a current account or a credit card etc etc with the alliance and leicester??? http://whois.domaintools.com/mybusinessbank.co.uk 181691[/snapback] I've had nothing to do with them as far as I'm aware. Everything has been through Lloyds. I've never got a loan for anything and do have to get a mortgage. 181701[/snapback] What about through work? ever had a business loan?? 181705[/snapback] Never taken out any loans through work or anything like that. I'm sure that company would be interested in knowing about this though so I might give them a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geordie Boyo 24 Posted August 21, 2006 Author Share Posted August 21, 2006 (edited) I'm with Lloyds so surely the email would be from them wouldn't it? 181684[/snapback] You should have explained that earlier you tit! Seen as the email is from Abbey National and you don't even have an account with them, why are you having to ask us if it's fake? 181688[/snapback] I realised it was fake from the moment I saw it. What worries me is the fact that they have my full name, address & postcode along with the threat. 181693[/snapback] It probably isn't that hard to get someone's address and email address tbh. There are companies selling info like that all the time. You haven't applied for any free razors lately, have you? I won't go near those sort of offers, cos all it does is quadruple the junk mail coming through your door. 181698[/snapback] No it isnt - do a 'people' search here http://www.b4usearch.com/ 181700[/snapback] fucking hell! Stalkers paradise, tbh...! Edited August 21, 2006 by Geordie Boyo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 21, 2006 Share Posted August 21, 2006 Stokers?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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