LeazesMag 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) I think you just made the same post 3217 times 178397[/snapback] Bit odd if his first post had been, "Have I really made 3217 posts on here?" I see you used the "no smoke without fire" line on N-O today, Leazes, you really don't get it, do you? 178401[/snapback] I wondered why he wasnt out checking out the playgrounds, I suppose N-O counts 178407[/snapback] you've been looking then ? Sneakingly and pervertly from a distance ? What do you think of the article though, or don't you have one Edited August 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think you just made the same post 3217 times 178397[/snapback] Bit odd if his first post had been, "Have I really made 3217 posts on here?" I see you used the "no smoke without fire" line on N-O today, Leazes, you really don't get it, do you? 178401[/snapback] I wondered why he wasnt out checking out the playgrounds, I suppose N-O counts 178407[/snapback] you've been looking then ? Sneakingly and pervertly from a distance ? What do you think of the article though, or don't you have one 178439[/snapback] I would have no objection to the bank holidays, we get 4 less bank holidays than any of the other European countries, so this might be a good way to find a couple of extra ones. The Sharia law thing is obviously a nonsense, but I have no objection to people wanting different laws, as long as they abide by existing ones. You think we should bring back the death penalty I believe. I disagree but I dont mind you beleiving it to be a good thing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 divvent get your knickers in a twist bonnie lad, its only a link, I didn't say I BUY the damn thing .... 178438[/snapback] still reading their stories tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think you just made the same post 3217 times 178397[/snapback] Bit odd if his first post had been, "Have I really made 3217 posts on here?" I see you used the "no smoke without fire" line on N-O today, Leazes, you really don't get it, do you? 178401[/snapback] I wondered why he wasnt out checking out the playgrounds, I suppose N-O counts 178407[/snapback] you've been looking then ? Sneakingly and pervertly from a distance ? What do you think of the article though, or don't you have one 178439[/snapback] I would have no objection to the bank holidays, we get 4 less bank holidays than any of the other European countries, so this might be a good way to find a couple of extra ones. The Sharia law thing is obviously a nonsense, but I have no objection to people wanting different laws, as long as they abide by existing ones. You think we should bring back the death penalty I believe. I disagree but I dont mind you beleiving it to be a good thing 178446[/snapback] They could probably implement the whole lot as long as english civil law had priority. for example, if someone wasnt happy with a sharia court of law decision then they could appeal to an english court of law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 ive read that the state of louisiana is the only american state NOT to use the common law system. Apparantly they use napoleonic civil law. America bought Louisiana (and much, much more land ) from the french. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I think you just made the same post 3217 times 178397[/snapback] Bit odd if his first post had been, "Have I really made 3217 posts on here?" I see you used the "no smoke without fire" line on N-O today, Leazes, you really don't get it, do you? 178401[/snapback] I wondered why he wasnt out checking out the playgrounds, I suppose N-O counts 178407[/snapback] you've been looking then ? Sneakingly and pervertly from a distance ? What do you think of the article though, or don't you have one 178439[/snapback] I would have no objection to the bank holidays, we get 4 less bank holidays than any of the other European countries, so this might be a good way to find a couple of extra ones. The Sharia law thing is obviously a nonsense, but I have no objection to people wanting different laws, as long as they abide by existing ones. You think we should bring back the death penalty I believe. I disagree but I dont mind you beleiving it to be a good thing 178446[/snapback] They could probably implement the whole lot as long as english civil law had priority. for example, if someone wasnt happy with a sharia court of law decision then they could appeal to an english court of law. 178456[/snapback] Dunno how that'd work like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Author Share Posted August 15, 2006 divvent get your knickers in a twist bonnie lad, its only a link, I didn't say I BUY the damn thing .... 178438[/snapback] still reading their stories tbh 178448[/snapback] not particularly, I don't, as I said its just a link I saw somewhere else, whats the prob anyway are you still reading the Mirror or Morning Star Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sima 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 divvent get your knickers in a twist bonnie lad, its only a link, I didn't say I BUY the damn thing .... 178438[/snapback] still reading their stories tbh 178448[/snapback] not particularly, I don't, as I said its just a link I saw somewhere else, whats the prob anyway are you still reading the Mirror or Morning Star 178467[/snapback] I read your favourite newspaper tbh SANDALISTAS UNITE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Shirley the'd argue that NOT using sharia law is against their human rights? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Shirley the'd argue that NOT using sharia law is against their human rights? 178479[/snapback] Well they could and I've no doubt some do from time to time. Wouldnt fly though. The law of England and Wales has every conceivable built in human rights safeguard these days and for the most part it takes into account customs and beliefs. It's a balancing act of course, but if someone was trying to argue they were being deprived of (a very crass example indeed but lets say the right to force someone into marriage) then that would be outweighed by the other persons freedoms. On the other hand, say the right to practice as a Muslim and to associate with fellow muslims-well thats protected by freedom of expression, association and family life etc etc etc ad infinitum and it aint hurting anyone elses rights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Shirley the'd argue that NOT using sharia law is against their human rights? 178479[/snapback] Well they could and I've no doubt some do from time to time. Wouldnt fly though. The law of England and Wales has every conceivable built in human rights safeguard these days and for the most part it takes into account customs and beliefs. It's a balancing act of course, but if someone was trying to argue they were being deprived of (a very crass example indeed but lets say the right to force someone into marriage) then that would be outweighed by the other persons freedoms. On the other hand, say the right to practice as a Muslim and to associate with fellow muslims-well thats protected by freedom of expression, association and family life etc etc etc ad infinitum and it aint hurting anyone elses rights. 178500[/snapback] God Bless The United Kingdom of Great Britain. We Rock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. 178492[/snapback] European law is supreme. so if a decision of an English court was inconsistent with European law, then you'd appeal to a European court (ultimately, although it should be enforced by any domestic appeal court before then, the European court is the last port of call after exhausting all domestic remedies.) As for Sharia law, well it's not the law of the country anyway so I dont know who you think might be applying it in the first place? Certainly not another court! If someone (say an employer etc) was doing something/taking decisions etc based on their interpretation of what was right under sharia law, then yes, you could bring action in an English court-say discrimination in an employment law context, just to use an example. When you say appeal, it suggests that an inferior court has already applied sharia law, and youre appealing to a higher court. That wouldn't happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. 178492[/snapback] European law is supreme. so if a decision of an English court was inconsistent with European law, then you'd appeal to a European court (ultimately, although it should be enforced by any domestic appeal court before then, the European court is the last port of call after exhausting all domestic remedies.) As for Sharia law, well it's not the law of the country anyway so I dont know who you think might be applying it in the first place? Certainly not another court! If someone (say an employer etc) was doing something/taking decisions etc based on their interpretation of what was right under sharia law, then yes, you could bring action in an English court-say discrimination in an employment law context, just to use an example. When you say appeal, it suggests that an inferior court has already applied sharia law, and youre appealing to a higher court. That wouldn't happen. 178507[/snapback] I was just being daft tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. 178492[/snapback] European law is supreme. so if a decision of an English court was inconsistent with European law, then you'd appeal to a European court (ultimately, although it should be enforced by any domestic appeal court before then, the European court is the last port of call after exhausting all domestic remedies.) As for Sharia law, well it's not the law of the country anyway so I dont know who you think might be applying it in the first place? Certainly not another court! If someone (say an employer etc) was doing something/taking decisions etc based on their interpretation of what was right under sharia law, then yes, you could bring action in an English court-say discrimination in an employment law context, just to use an example. When you say appeal, it suggests that an inferior court has already applied sharia law, and youre appealing to a higher court. That wouldn't happen. 178507[/snapback] I was just being daft tbh 178508[/snapback] Fair play then, spose i waste peoples time for the most part so i can hardly complain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spongebob toonpants 4183 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 (edited) Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. 178492[/snapback] European law is supreme. so if a decision of an English court was inconsistent with European law, then you'd appeal to a European court (ultimately, although it should be enforced by any domestic appeal court before then, the European court is the last port of call after exhausting all domestic remedies.) As for Sharia law, well it's not the law of the country anyway so I dont know who you think might be applying it in the first place? Certainly not another court! If someone (say an employer etc) was doing something/taking decisions etc based on their interpretation of what was right under sharia law, then yes, you could bring action in an English court-say discrimination in an employment law context, just to use an example. When you say appeal, it suggests that an inferior court has already applied sharia law, and youre appealing to a higher court. That wouldn't happen. 178507[/snapback] I was just being daft tbh 178508[/snapback] Fair play then, spose i waste peoples time for the most part so i can hardly complain. 178512[/snapback] Dont do yourself down. I still found your answer interesting and informative Edited August 15, 2006 by spongebob toonpants Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Dunno how that'd work like. 178465[/snapback] Simple, any time someone wasn't too thrilled with the idea of having a limb cut off, they can take it through the English courts, who would obviously find the decision to be barbaric, and a gross violation of human rights and rightfully rule against the Sharia law. 178468[/snapback] Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] Doesnt that mean that the English system runs alongside the European system? So if you dont like our decision you appeal to Europe. If you dont like Sharia you appeal to English law. 178492[/snapback] European law is supreme. so if a decision of an English court was inconsistent with European law, then you'd appeal to a European court (ultimately, although it should be enforced by any domestic appeal court before then, the European court is the last port of call after exhausting all domestic remedies.) As for Sharia law, well it's not the law of the country anyway so I dont know who you think might be applying it in the first place? Certainly not another court! If someone (say an employer etc) was doing something/taking decisions etc based on their interpretation of what was right under sharia law, then yes, you could bring action in an English court-say discrimination in an employment law context, just to use an example. When you say appeal, it suggests that an inferior court has already applied sharia law, and youre appealing to a higher court. That wouldn't happen. 178507[/snapback] I was just being daft tbh 178508[/snapback] Fair play then, spose i waste peoples time for the most part so i can hardly complain. 178512[/snapback] Dont do yourself down. I still found your answer interseting and informative 178518[/snapback] Howay man, I'm just messing. I'm not chewed whether it was a joke or not-it's there for info if anyones bothered so nee probs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Having a limb cut off! They'd be up in arms *groans* No, the two systems would be completely incompatible. The point is you cant have two separate systems running side by side. Theres a court hierachy in English law whereby higher courts can quash the decisions of subordinate courts, but importantly theyre all applying the same jurisprudence. In any event, and this is the truth, sharia law would be a non starter in the UK for other reasons. As yu've hinted at, we're signatories to the European Convention on Human Rights (enacted in domestic law by the Human Rigts Act 1998). The difference in treatment of males/females within most Islamic systems would automatically be ruled offside. I needn't comment on the chopping hands off, stoning etc etc. 178472[/snapback] I was taking the piss, mong-mag! Get yer law goggles off, I know I was taking the piss out of how silly beaurocracy can be, but I thought it was obvious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47071 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Sammy coming over all Rumpole when people were taking the piss, the fucking goon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Is this a curry recipe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Does Heather Mills McCartney have to send her 'foot' through the x-ray machine, is what I want to know? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Is this a curry recipe? 178605[/snapback] You never thanked him for that you rude little shit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted August 16, 2006 Share Posted August 16, 2006 Is this a curry recipe? 178605[/snapback] You never thanked him for that you rude little shit! 178771[/snapback] Public hanging is too good for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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