Poker question

[Gemmill 44110]

He doesn't half talk a lot of shit, it must be said.

[Rob W 0]

He doesn't half talk a lot of shit, it must be said.

 

 

but the other half is PURE GOLD you have to admit!!

[Rob W 0]

Robs view of online poker

 

 

 

FANTASTIC!!!!! I'll use that in my next Management presentation!!!

[Gemmill 44110]

He doesn't half talk a lot of shit, it must be said.

 

 

but the other half is PURE GOLD you have to admit!!

 

Daft old giffer.

[Mark 0]

Gemmil, what are your aggression issues? If you aren't aggressive enough, you are probably playing to high of a limit, and scared to loose the money you put in.

[Gemmill 44110]

I keep smashing my keyboard. Don't worry, they're being treated.

 

I'm not playing too high a limit though, but I take your point.

[Mark 0]

I keep smashing my keyboard. Don't worry, they're being treated.

 

I'm not playing too high a limit though, but I take your point.

 

I've punched my monitor before and broke it, had to get a new one. All because of a $5 SNG....

[Gemmill 44110]

I keep smashing my keyboard. Don't worry, they're being treated.

 

I'm not playing too high a limit though, but I take your point.

 

I've punched my monitor before and broke it, had to get a new one. All because of a $5 SNG....

 

Pierced it with your skinny arms more like - like knitting needles with elbows!

[Mark 0]

I keep smashing my keyboard. Don't worry, they're being treated.

 

I'm not playing too high a limit though, but I take your point.

 

I've punched my monitor before and broke it, had to get a new one. All because of a $5 SNG....

 

Pierced it with your skinny arms more like - like knitting needles with elbows!

 

Was waiting for that one. I'm not going to retalliate, I'm better than that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Rob W 0]

He doesn't half talk a lot of shit, it must be said.

 

 

but the other half is PURE GOLD you have to admit!!

 

Daft old giffer.

 

 

nae respect from the young 'uns these days

[Gemmill 44110]

US gaming ban hits UK firms most

Comment

By Robert Peston

Business Editor, BBC News

 

Investing in poker firms can be riskier than playing the game

When Partygaming was floated on the stock market last year, its prospectus admitted that its online gambling activities were deemed "illegal" by relevant US authorities.

 

Which was a pretty extraordinary thing for it to say.

 

Why?

 

Because most of its revenues come from US gamblers and it was seeking to persuade the stock market to value its business at a cool £5bn.

 

If most of its operations were illegal, why wasn't PartyGaming worth zilch?

 

Well, its prospectus also said that it directors took comfort from the "apparent unwillingness or inability of regulators generally to bring actions" against it.

 

Not any longer.

 

Congress has now passed legislation, which - if approved by President George W Bush - will make it impossible for Partygaming and a clutch of other British online betting businesses to collect revenues in the US.

 

Their share prices have collapsed - in Partygaming's case, by more than £2bn today.

 

But here's the bitter twist for gamblers who have lost money on shares of Partygaming and its rivals.

 

Congress has permitted online gaming by companies providing horserace betting, so-called fantasy games and lotteries.

 

And guess what? Most of them are US-owned.

 

It is British businesses that are being crushed by Congress.

 

Which suggests that in the casino of globalisation, Congress may be engaged in old-fashioned protectionism - or rigging the game in favour of US companies.

 

Dorty yanks.

[Gemmill 44110]

What's the craic with this Monster thing on Party? Do you have to qualify for it or do you just enter it? Is it freeroll?

[ewerk 30167]

US gaming ban hits UK firms most

Comment

By Robert Peston

Business Editor, BBC News

 

Investing in poker firms can be riskier than playing the game

When Partygaming was floated on the stock market last year, its prospectus admitted that its online gambling activities were deemed "illegal" by relevant US authorities.

 

Which was a pretty extraordinary thing for it to say.

 

Why?

 

Because most of its revenues come from US gamblers and it was seeking to persuade the stock market to value its business at a cool £5bn.

 

If most of its operations were illegal, why wasn't PartyGaming worth zilch?

 

Well, its prospectus also said that it directors took comfort from the "apparent unwillingness or inability of regulators generally to bring actions" against it.

 

Not any longer.

 

Congress has now passed legislation, which - if approved by President George W Bush - will make it impossible for Partygaming and a clutch of other British online betting businesses to collect revenues in the US.

 

Their share prices have collapsed - in Partygaming's case, by more than £2bn today.

 

But here's the bitter twist for gamblers who have lost money on shares of Partygaming and its rivals.

 

Congress has permitted online gaming by companies providing horserace betting, so-called fantasy games and lotteries.

 

And guess what? Most of them are US-owned.

 

It is British businesses that are being crushed by Congress.

 

Which suggests that in the casino of globalisation, Congress may be engaged in old-fashioned protectionism - or rigging the game in favour of US companies.

 

Dorty yanks.

 

Anyone who invests in a company which openly admits it is on shaky legal ground deserves to lose their money IMO.

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

What's the craic with this Monster thing on Party? Do you have to qualify for it or do you just enter it? Is it freeroll?

 

 

They increased the rake on the cash tables to go into a huge tournament, which you qualify by sngs or multis or being on a table where the bad beat jackpot was won and various other things.

 

The cash players hated it because they felt they were paying for a tournament they had no interest in entering. It is basically a big marketing exercise to say woohoo 13 million pound tournament, come to party.

 

Where banning usa players leaves us who knows. It may mean we can play for a huge prize with 75% of the players now banned, or Party might just keep it

 

I couldnt be arsed with it before, but if it is a huge prizepool and few players the overlay will be huge, so I might give it a go

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

US gaming ban hits UK firms most

Comment

By Robert Peston

Business Editor, BBC News

 

Investing in poker firms can be riskier than playing the game

When Partygaming was floated on the stock market last year, its prospectus admitted that its online gambling activities were deemed "illegal" by relevant US authorities.

 

Which was a pretty extraordinary thing for it to say.

 

Why?

 

Because most of its revenues come from US gamblers and it was seeking to persuade the stock market to value its business at a cool £5bn.

 

If most of its operations were illegal, why wasn't PartyGaming worth zilch?

 

Well, its prospectus also said that it directors took comfort from the "apparent unwillingness or inability of regulators generally to bring actions" against it.

 

Not any longer.

 

Congress has now passed legislation, which - if approved by President George W Bush - will make it impossible for Partygaming and a clutch of other British online betting businesses to collect revenues in the US.

 

Their share prices have collapsed - in Partygaming's case, by more than £2bn today.

 

But here's the bitter twist for gamblers who have lost money on shares of Partygaming and its rivals.

 

Congress has permitted online gaming by companies providing horserace betting, so-called fantasy games and lotteries.

 

And guess what? Most of them are US-owned.

 

It is British businesses that are being crushed by Congress.

 

Which suggests that in the casino of globalisation, Congress may be engaged in old-fashioned protectionism - or rigging the game in favour of US companies.

 

Dorty yanks.

 

Anyone who invests in a company which openly admits it is on shaky legal ground deserves to lose their money IMO.

 

 

One paragraph in 65 pages tbh. Prospectuses always have to say what possible problems there might be, nobody thought this would happen

[Gemmill 44110]

Ah right, cheers. Might have a bit more read about it when I get home.

 

Email from Full Tilt this morning:

 

As an online poker player, you have probably heard about the new legislation passed by the U.S. Congress earlier this week that attempts to prevent you from being able to transfer money to online gaming sites.

 

While this new law has prompted some sites to announce plans to abandon the U.S. market in coming days, we assure you that Full Tilt Poker will continue to provide all of its players - both inside and outside of the United States - with a full complement of real money ring games and tournaments for their enjoyment.

 

After consultation with numerous legal experts in this field, we want to make you aware of the following:

 

* Legal

 

The new U.S. legislation does not in any way attempt to criminalize the act of you playing online poker. By playing online at Full Tilt Poker, you are not breaking any U.S. Federal laws.

 

* Full Access

 

The passage of the new Internet Gaming law will not have any impact on your day-to-day experience at Full Tilt Poker. We will provide all of our players, everywhere in the world, with full access to all of our games and tournaments.

 

* Easy Deposits and Withdrawals

 

We will continue to provide our players with all of the safe, secure and convenient methods for transferring money to and from the site. In fact, in recent discussions with our payment processors, we have been assured that this new law will have no immediate impact on their day-to-day business. And as always, any monies that you have on deposit with Full Tilt Poker remain completely safe and secure.

 

Furthermore, we firmly believe that online poker is not encompassed by this new legislation. In any event, we will continue to lobby for an express carve-out for online poker and for your right to play a truly American game from the privacy of your own home and computer.

 

We are excited about the future here at Full Tilt Poker and in the coming weeks and months, we plan to roll out many new features designed to enhance your online poker experience.

 

We appreciate your loyalty to our site and, in turn, want you to know that we will remain loyal to our valued players in the United States and throughout the world.

 

We look forward to seeing you at the table.

 

Sincerely,

 

Full Tilt Poker

 

If Party are going ahead with their initial claims, it would be canny if everyone migrated to Full Tilt, as the set-up on there is good.

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

And by the way Gemmil, dont raise half your stack with KQo when you have 9BB, either shove it in or fold. That plank with the big stack was always gonna call that bet, you left yourself nowhere to go.

 

If you push and he calls you get your money in with the best of it, fair enough. The way you played it you were pot comitted anyway and ended up putting your money in behind

 

I would have most likely just folded and let the big stack bully the rest of them

[Gemmill 44110]

Ahhh, so you were there. Aye, good advice. As soon as I'd done it, and he called, I knew I was in the shit. I must have only played about 4 bloody hands the whole game as well.

 

I should have just folded but I'd had no sort of cards (apart from the spawny AKo where I was all-in against the big-stack's Aces and spawned a straight ) and was getting trigger-happy.

[Gemmill 44110]

Downloaded sng-analyzer btw. The tutorials are ridiculous - it felt like I was being let in on some huge secret reading them. The sooner he finishes the rest of them, the better.

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

Downloaded sng-analyzer btw. The tutorials are ridiculous - it felt like I was being let in on some huge secret reading them. The sooner he finishes the rest of them, the better.

 

 

It is magnificent isnt it. Sometimes you can get into a position where you just push every hand, it drives people crazy

[Gemmill 44110]

Downloaded sng-analyzer btw. The tutorials are ridiculous - it felt like I was being let in on some huge secret reading them. The sooner he finishes the rest of them, the better.

 

 

It is magnificent isnt it. Sometimes you can get into a position where you just push every hand, it drives people crazy

 

To be honest, I couldn't believe it at first when it's doing the calculations and I'm thinking how can it possibly be a +EV move to push with that hand, but when you work through it all, it makes sense - bit of a eureka moment. The bloke is obviously a bit of a genius, but he really explains the concepts well in the tutorials too. I am right in thinking that there are currently only two tutorials available, aren't I? Or am I missing out on some?

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

Downloaded sng-analyzer btw. The tutorials are ridiculous - it felt like I was being let in on some huge secret reading them. The sooner he finishes the rest of them, the better.

 

 

It is magnificent isnt it. Sometimes you can get into a position where you just push every hand, it drives people crazy

 

To be honest, I couldn't believe it at first when it's doing the calculations and I'm thinking how can it possibly be a +EV move to push with that hand, but when you work through it all, it makes sense - bit of a eureka moment. The bloke is obviously a bit of a genius, but he really explains the concepts well in the tutorials too. I am right in thinking that there are currently only two tutorials available, aren't I? Or am I missing out on some?

 

 

Yeah he has been promising the new ones for ages, but to be fair playing with the stack sizes and calling ranges is the way forward, once you get afeel for how situations affect EV you are golden. Helps with the tilt monstter as well, if you now you made the right move

[Gemmill 44110]

Yeah I only got it last night but need to have a proper mess around with it. It was information overload cos I downloaded that, tourney manager, and pokertracker AND set myself up on Party. Is there anywhere that gives an idea on practical uses for Pokertracker btw? I had a dead quick look last night (too quick), but there just seems so much info that I couldn't make a lot of sense of it. I think it has forums so presumably there's stuff on there, but just wondered if you knew of a first port of call?

[spongebob toonpants 3902]

Yeah I only got it last night but need to have a proper mess around with it. It was information overload cos I downloaded that, tourney manager, and pokertracker AND set myself up on Party. Is there anywhere that gives an idea on practical uses for Pokertracker btw? I had a dead quick look last night (too quick), but there just seems so much info that I couldn't make a lot of sense of it. I think it has forums so presumably there's stuff on there, but just wondered if you knew of a first port of call?

 

 

I bought it but I dont really use it tbh. I just use sng tracker for results and power tools for analysis. I havent had the time or energy to get pokertracker sorted out. If I move up so I play the same people a lot I would probably start using it with the heads up display, at the moment I cant be bothered

[Gemmill 44110]

Ok, ta. I'll have a good look at it and the forums over the weekend and see what I think. It's not cheap, and I don't want to just hand the cash over for it if I'm then never gonna bother with it. I've got plenty to be getting on with for the time being without it really.