Bizza 105 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Microsoft shuts down Windows 98 Microsoft is urging an estimated 70 million users of Windows 98 to upgrade as it ends support for the software. From 11 July, Microsoft will no longer help users over the phone with any problems they have with the ageing operating system. The firm will also stop providing security updates for Windows 98 from the same date. Support for the software was originally due to end in 2003, but was extended following customer protests. Shutting down Products affected by closing down the support system include Windows 98, Windows 98 Second Edition, and Windows Me (Millennium Edition). Analyst firm IDC believes that more than 70 million users will be hit by the change. The majority of these people are likely to be using the operating system at home, as by now most large businesses have phased out machines running the software. Many small firms are also believed to be users of the product. Microsoft ended free support for this trio of products in late 2003 but continued to offer paid support and provide critical security updates. This too will now stop. The change means that those still using Windows 98 and Me after 11 July could become more vulnerable to many security risks, as bug fixes for loopholes exploited by hackers will no longer become available. In a statement Microsoft said it was "ending support for these products because they are outdated and these older operating systems can expose customers to security risks". Mikko Hyponnen from Finnish security firm F-Secure said that it was still providing updates for Windows 98 users who run its anti-virus package. "In fact, 98 users are not at that great a risk as people might think: most of the new malware we see simply won't run there," he said. "Nevertheless, if you want to be safe with 98: don't go online. Or upgrade to something that is supported with security patches," he added. According to computer security firm Secure Science, at least one hi-tech crime gang based in Eastern Europe specialises in Windows 98 and produces viruses that prey on the software's weaknesses. This is because users of it tend to have little knowledge of potential dangers - and are older, so are more likely to have substantial financial assets worth stealing. Users of Windows 98 who have problems with the software may find an answer to their query themselves by hunting through the support information collected on the Microsoft website. The software giant said this data will be kept live until "at least 11 July 2007". It urged users to upgrade to a more secure operating system, such as Windows XP, as soon as possible. This could mean buying a new PC for those running a machine bought eight years ago with Windows 98 pre-installed. This is because the hardware specifications for Windows 98 fall far short of the minimum required to run Windows XP. It may also mean they have to replace or update any peripherals they use with that ageing machine. The turn off for Windows 98 was originally due to fall in late 2003. However, protests from many developing regions of the world where, at that time, the software was widely used prompted Microsoft to reverse its decision. From the BBC Time to upgrade the 'pooter methinks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 my sister was was running windows 95 up until a few weeks ago. Had a 6bg hard drive anarl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rikko 20 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 No point in upgrading to XP tbh. Vista is due for release in about 6 months which will replace XP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47775 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Download a new OS via bittorrent. The price of these things is a pisstake anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Download a new OS via bittorrent. The price of these things is a pisstake anyway. 158500[/snapback] Can I refer you to a thread of about a year ago where you had a go at people downloading music? thieving pikey bastards was the phrase iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47775 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Download a new OS via bittorrent. The price of these things is a pisstake anyway. 158500[/snapback] Can I refer you to a thread of about a year ago where you had a go at people downloading music? thieving pikey bastards was the phrase iirc 158529[/snapback] I'm a changed man these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimbo 175 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Trouble is with downloading, you will have problems regarding essential updates, no-doubt the first release of Vista will be a bug ridden mess, and will require updates, Microsoft will more than likely be using a validation tool to ensure a genuine version is being used. If Microsoft were as genuinely bothered about pirating, then maybe they should consider selling their products at a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Download a new OS via bittorrent. The price of these things is a pisstake anyway. 158500[/snapback] Can I refer you to a thread of about a year ago where you had a go at people downloading music? thieving pikey bastards was the phrase iirc 158529[/snapback] I'm a changed man these days. 158531[/snapback] thieving pikey bastard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11128 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 I will never willfully buy a Microsoft OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 windows vista needs a recommended 1gb of ram to run - thats before you use your anti virus software, play games, go online etc, etc. Madness i tells ya! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11128 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 windows vista needs a recommended 1gb of ram to run - thats before you use your anti virus software, play games, go online etc, etc. Madness i tells ya! 158544[/snapback] fookin hell I scrape by on 256Mb ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Still using Windows 95 on some machines at work - it works, its bug free, takes up bugger all space and no-one writes virusii for it anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6707 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Still using Windows 95 on some machines at work - it works, its bug free, takes up bugger all space and no-one writes virusii for it anymore 158547[/snapback] You're taking the piss, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sicklee Sausage Roll 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 windows vista needs a recommended 1gb of ram to run - thats before you use your anti virus software, play games, go online etc, etc. Madness i tells ya! 158544[/snapback] No way am I buying extra ram for transparent windows. Fuck that for a lark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted July 11, 2006 Share Posted July 11, 2006 Blimey!! Nearly had a heart attack when i read this Im still using 98 Just rushed onto microsoft site and installed all the critical updates theyve been telling me to do for weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Still using Windows 95 on some machines at work - it works, its bug free, takes up bugger all space and no-one writes virusii for it anymore 158547[/snapback] You're taking the piss, right? 158551[/snapback] Nope - we still have some old programs that were never updated but run fine so why scrap the machines - they aren't much cop trying to run broadband mind.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6707 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Still using Windows 95 on some machines at work - it works, its bug free, takes up bugger all space and no-one writes virusii for it anymore 158547[/snapback] You're taking the piss, right? 158551[/snapback] Nope - we still have some old programs that were never updated but run fine so why scrap the machines - they aren't much cop trying to run broadband mind.......... 158699[/snapback] Fair enough that they run fine...... But "it's bug free" is not true whatsoever! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob W 0 Posted July 12, 2006 Share Posted July 12, 2006 Agreed - it was far worse than 95 and 2000 XP was remarkeably good IMHO We still run some programmes written in the 80's - very very tight code, no bells and whistles and it looks like instant magic when you run them on a modern PC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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