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3 minutes ago, TheGingerQuiff said:

it's a tosser-off

 

Thompers at it again.

[The Fish 10855]

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Yes, do you?

Give us your explanation of the scientific method please.

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

Easily duped based on fabrication would be more apt.

No it isn't, not even close. Otherwise I'd have been duped into believing your fabrication.

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

You don't have a point. Your reliance on water adhering to a globe, regardless of size is due to your ability to accept nonsense that is passed off as a truth.

This isn't a dig at you, because we all accept nonsense in our liv es in all forms.

The issue is in sifting through it and discarding the obvious garbage, which can be hiding in plain sight but hard to recognise for those that are reliant of mainstream ideals.

Larger objects can behave differently to small objects. Can you understand this simple idea?

 

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

To keep the hungry donkey moving it's best to dangle the reward  so they follow a set path. Just never dangle it without giving a reward or the donkey will soon break down or become wise.

One hell of a way to control the masses.

... there are easier carrots to dangle, and easier sticks. The effort to fabricate it is greater than actually doing it.

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

Allow us?

You're a name on a football forum for crying out loud. 

You don't get any insight into my life other than what you can gleen from what I say, or think up yourself.

Why are you so reticent to let us know what you do?

 

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Treat me in any way you want to.

You can correspond with me in a good bad or indifferent way at an y time and I will respond how I see fit. You can also choose not to.

That's the beauty about forums.

I'm interested in progressing the conversation. You don't seem to be as interested.

30 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

 

Like I said. I wonder who the real ignorant one's are. Hmmmm.

You are Wolfy, you're the ignorant one. You're also the arrogant one. 

[Alex 35063]

29 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Good for you.

What is? The point I was making is that, in refusing to explain why your so-called denpressure behaves the way it does, you've made it obvious that you don't have an explanation. I don't think that's 'good for me' because it's clear to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. That's why no one respects your views on here. You're a disingenuous hypocrite.

[wolfy 12]

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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Give us your explanation of the scientific method please.

It's all there  online. Look it up. It's pointless me explaining it.

Do you want me to link you to a page on it so you can see what it is?

Unless you're trying to make some kind of point.

If so, what point are you trying to make?

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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No it isn't, not even close. Otherwise I'd have been duped into believing your fabrication.

 

I don't claim a truth, nor do I claim any authority for what I say. 

It's a different kettle of fish, fish.

Pardon the pun.

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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Larger objects can behave differently to small objects. Can you understand this simple idea?

Of course I can but we are talking about water on a ball, large or small, or any size ball and the ball is spinning.

Nature tells you exactly what happens by observation and repeatable experiments to come to a conclusion of a natural proof by the (weirdly) scientific method.

Can you not understand this?

Gravity is utter nonsense made up to keep alive a big lie.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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... there are easier carrots to dangle, and easier sticks. The effort to fabricate it is greater than actually doing it.

 

Yeah, I've heard this bandied about for as long as I can remember.

It's easier to go to the moon than fake it.

It's easier to just build nuclear weapons and detonate them than to fabricate the footage.

All told by story-tellers who's stories must be told and to the humble person in the street, it will surely be sold.

It's a million times easier to fake anything that is impossible to work than to actually make the impossible, work.

 

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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Why are you so reticent to let us know what you do?

What difference does it make, what I do?

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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I'm interested in progressing the conversation. You don't seem to be as interested.

If you want to progress it then do so but don't place any stipulations on it. Progress it or don't.

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

You are Wolfy, you're the ignorant one. You're also the arrogant one. 

We are all ignorant in life, where blatant or naively. We are all arrogant in life, whether intentionally or stubbornly appear to be to others.

You're not telling me anything I don't already know but you are also adding yourself into the mix in equal (or maybe more) proportions.

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[strawb 4247]

This thread is fucking aids, can I stop it showing on my unread topics?

[wolfy 12]

20 minutes ago, Alex said:

What is? The point I was making is that, in refusing to explain why your so-called denpressure behaves the way it does, you've made it obvious that you don't have an explanation. I don't think that's 'good for me' because it's clear to anyone with a modicum of intelligence. That's why no one respects your views on here. You're a disingenuous hypocrite.

I don't care about your respect. You're a name on a football forum.

Explaining anything to you would be wasted and has been proved to be.

You spend most of your time building your post count up with a smiley.

[Meenzer 15518]

22 minutes ago, Alex said:

Disingenuous Hypocrite

 

Hoppy craft IPA, Alc. 5.2% Vol. 

[The Fish 10855]

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

It's all there  online. Look it up. It's pointless me explaining it.

Do you want me to link you to a page on it so you can see what it is?

Unless you're trying to make some kind of point.

If so, what point are you trying to make?

 

The point I'm making is that you don't understand the scientific method. It would have taken fewer words to explain it than it did for you to write the above.

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

I don't claim a truth, nor do I claim any authority for what I say. 

It's a different kettle of fish, fish.

Pardon the pun.

 

Yes, you do claim a truth and you dismiss other people as authority. You claim there is a global conspiracy to dupe the masses. You claim hundreds of thousands of people are living a lie. You claim we who challenge you are gullible, ignorant and so on. You claim a lot as "truth". Why lie?

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

Of course I can but we are talking about water on a ball, large or small, or any size ball and the ball is spinning.

Nature tells you exactly what happens by observation and repeatable experiments to come to a conclusion of a natural proof by the (weirdly) scientific method.

Can you not understand this?

Gravity is utter nonsense made up to keep alive a big lie.

 

You cannot replicate the kind of force that exists on a planetary scale. This is another of your claims, Gravity is nonsense. Despite it standing up to rigorous scrutiny and interrogation by brilliant minds. You declare it as nonsense because you don't understand it.

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Yeah, I've heard this bandied about for as long as I can remember.

It's easier to go to the moon than fake it.

It's easier to just build nuclear weapons and detonate them than to fabricate the footage.

All told by story-tellers who's stories must be told and to the humble person in the street, it will surely be sold.

It's a million times easier to fake anything that is impossible to work than to actually make the impossible, work.

 

It is easier and cheaper to actually go into space than it is to fake it. Certainly it was when Gagarin did it, when Armstrong did it and so on.

 

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

What difference does it make, what I do?

 

Well, if you were a 14yr old  school child we would encourage your inquisitive, sceptical mind. If you were an educated sceptic who had a solid understanding of the sciences you dismiss out of hand we may be curious as to how you came to your findings. If you are a security guard we may be less critical of your curiosity as it's likely born of boredom. Your career may provide an explanation for your position.

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

If you want to progress it then do so but don't place any stipulations on it. Progress it or don't.

Debate needs structure to progress, otherwise it's the Mail Online comments section.

 

3 minutes ago, wolfy said:

 

We are all ignorant in life, where blatant or naively. We are all arrogant in life, whether intentionally or stubbornly appear to be to others.

You're not telling me anything I don't already know but you are also adding yourself into the mix in equal (or maybe more) proportions.

Well, you don't seem to know the scientific method, you certainly didn't know Rikko's insight, Parky has told you things you didn't know. This board has a variety of men who could provide real and genuine insight if only you were open minded enough to accept that they know what they're talking about.

[Park Life 71]

@wolfyThere's quite a good stand up routine in all this.

 

 

Edited August 8, 2017 by Park Life

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2 minutes ago, Park Life said:

@wolfyThere's quite a good stand up routine in all this.

 

 

 

I can put you in touch with a bunch of promoters who can give you a 5 minute open spot, we'll all come and watch.

[wolfy 12]

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

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The point I'm making is that you don't understand the scientific method. It would have taken fewer words to explain it than it did for you to write the above.

You don't appear to know what you're saying, you're just saying anything.

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

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Yes, you do claim a truth and you dismiss other people as authority. You claim there is a global conspiracy to dupe the masses. You claim hundreds of thousands of people are living a lie. You claim we who challenge you are gullible, ignorant and so on. You claim a lot as "truth". Why lie?

You are claiming what you say I'm claiming.

Most people do not have to be lying. Most people follow protocol and could be naive to reality or mistaken or dubious but silent enough to ensure continuing employment.

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

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You cannot replicate the kind of force that exists on a planetary scale. This is another of your claims, Gravity is nonsense. Despite it standing up to rigorous scrutiny and interrogation by brilliant minds. You declare it as nonsense because you don't understand it.

You are basically trying to tell me stuff that you have no clue about in terms of reality. You are parroting the official lines, that's it.

I declare something as nonsense because it is nonsense and clearly stands out as nonsense.

You parroting stuff does not change that fact.

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

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It is easier and cheaper to actually go into space than it is to fake it. Certainly it was when Gagarin did it, when Armstrong did it and so on.

Years ago you would have had no real chance to prove  they were faked.

Today it's in your face that it was all complete bullshit.

 

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

 

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Well, if you were a 14yr old  school child we would encourage your inquisitive, sceptical mind. If you were an educated sceptic who had a solid understanding of the sciences you dismiss out of hand we may be curious as to how you came to your findings. If you are a security guard we may be less critical of your curiosity as it's likely born of boredom. Your career may provide an explanation for your position.

It would probably make your position a little easier I suppose. Unfortunately for you, I'm none of the above.

 

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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Debate needs structure to progress, otherwise it's the Mail Online comments section.

Then don't call it debate. Just call it casual conversation if it's more fitting for you.

 

2 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Well, you don't seem to know the scientific method, you certainly didn't know Rikko's insight, Parky has told you things you didn't know. This board has a variety of men who could provide real and genuine insight if only you were open minded enough to accept that they know what they're talking about.

I think you are not too clued up on it but are giving a reasonable attempt at pretending you do.

[Alex 35063]

47 minutes ago, wolfy said:

I don't care about your respect. You're a name on a football forum.

Explaining anything to you would be wasted and has been proved to be.

You spend most of your time building your post count up with a smiley.

That's another transparent example of what I'm talking about. Nice try though

[wolfy 12]

Just now, Alex said:

That's another transparent example of what I'm talking about. Nice try though

I'm just telling you what I see you doing.

 

[Alex 35063]

1 minute ago, wolfy said:

I'm just telling you what I see you doing.

 

You're a fuckwit though

[Tom 14011]

This thread is worse than any potential conflict

[wolfy 12]

Just now, Alex said:

You're a fuckwit though

At least you're upping your word count.

[Meenzer 15518]

You can say what you like about the North Koreans, but they know how to build a hotel.

 

[Meenzer 15518]

Wey I've just realised we talked about this back on page 3 of this thread or thereabouts. It's hard to remember a time when we were actually on topic.

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 3888]

2 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

You can say what you like about the North Koreans, but they know how to build a hotel.

 

 

It looks like something from Small part of California of the apes.

[The Fish 10855]

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

You don't appear to know what you're saying, you're just saying anything.

 

Explain the scientific method in your own words.

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

You are claiming what you say I'm claiming.

Most people do not have to be lying. Most people follow protocol and could be naive to reality or mistaken or dubious but silent enough to ensure continuing employment.

The point is that it's an incredibly complex and fragile construct, others would be easier and more robust. Why choose this one?

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

You are basically trying to tell me stuff that you have no clue about in terms of reality. You are parroting the official lines, that's it.

I declare something as nonsense because it is nonsense and clearly stands out as nonsense.

You parroting stuff does not change that fact.

You. Have. No. Proof. 

 

All you're doing is repeating "It's nonsense" without anything to back up that outlandish claim.

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Years ago you would have had no real chance to prove  they were faked.

Today it's in your face that it was all complete bullshit.

You have no authority to dismiss this evidence. Simply declaring "It's nonsense" without backing that claim up is pointless and should be put in the same drawer as the men who declare "The End is Nigh" on sandwich boards in 90s action movies.

 

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

It would probably make your position a little easier I suppose. Unfortunately for you, I'm none of the above.

It's not about making it easier, it's about humanising you.

41 minutes ago, wolfy said:

Then don't call it debate. Just call it casual conversation if it's more fitting for you.

 

I think you are not too clued up on it but are giving a reasonable attempt at pretending you do.

 

Then explain the scientific method in your own words.

[Alex 35063]

21 minutes ago, wolfy said:

At least you're upping your word count.

I've actually attempted to engage with you in this thread (fuck knows why) so you're still talking bollocks.

[Alex 35063]

1 hour ago, Meenzer said:

 

Hoppy craft IPA, Alc. 5.2% Vol. 

It's all bloody IPAs these days. Mass conspiracy iyam

Edited August 8, 2017 by Alex

[wolfy 12]

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

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Explain the scientific method in your own words.

I've already explained it. 

Understand what science is before you go any further with this, because the so called scientific method you are reliant on, is not exactly a true reflection of it's meaning.

 

 

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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The point is that it's an incredibly complex and fragile construct, others would be easier and more robust. Why choose this one?

You. Have. No. Proof. 

 

All you're doing is repeating "It's nonsense" without anything to back up that outlandish claim.

 

You are happy to accept nonsense for no other reason that it's the accepted norm, so you follow it like most. Parrot fashion to be fair.

 

 

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

 

 

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You have no authority to dismiss this evidence. Simply declaring "It's nonsense" without backing that claim up is pointless and should be put in the same drawer as the men who declare "The End is Nigh" on sandwich boards in 90s action movies.

You can keep saying this stuff but, as I have said; all you are doing is parroting what you simply took for granted as a truth and you believe it's evidence.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

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It's not about making it easier, it's about humanising you.

It might be better if you sort out your own life first before you start tinkering with the wires of my robotic life. 

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, The Fish said:

Then explain the scientific method in your own words.

No need. I understand you can't grasp it.

[wolfy 12]

18 minutes ago, Alex said:

I've actually attempted to engage with you in this thread (fuck knows why) so you're still talking bollocks.

You spent too much time getting engaged to the laughing smiley from what I seen.