Ken 119 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 9 hours ago, Rayvin said: What did you study? Political Science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 18 hours ago, Dr Gloom said: keep telling yourself that, you utter fruitcake I certainly will, gullible lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 17 hours ago, Ken said: The future of your nation is in safe hands with people like you in it. It's in safe hands as far as incoming nuclear missiles are concerned, because they do not exist and never will. The best anyone can do is to drop conventional bombs from planes or fire short range missiles with conventional war heads. As far as North Korea throwing all kinds of WMD around. It's a complete and utter joke on the all eager public to hang on to joke news. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 46 minutes ago, wolfy said: It's in safe hands as far as incoming nuclear missiles are concerned, because they do not exist and never will. The best anyone can do is to drop conventional bombs from planes or fire short range missiles with conventional war heads. As far as North Korea throwing all kinds of WMD around. It's a complete and utter joke on the all eager public to hang on to joke news. If you believe short range missiles exist, what is your issue with long range missiles which work on the same principal but are more powerful? Let me guess, it's something to do with denpressure or they would bounce off the roof of the ice dome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 24 minutes ago, Renton said: If you believe short range missiles exist, what is your issue with long range missiles which work on the same principal but are more powerful? Fuel required and height required to achieve a long distance target from an arced missile. Unless they put plane wings on the missile and have it take off like a plane, then their targets will only ever be localised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 41 minutes ago, wolfy said: Fuel required and height required to achieve a long distance target from an arced missile. Unless they put plane wings on the missile and have it take off like a plane, then their targets will only ever be localised. Oh aye? Show me your calculations to prove this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 27 minutes ago, Renton said: Oh aye? Show me your calculations to prove this. No calculations required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: No calculations required. Thought not. What a prick you are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Renton said: Thought not. What a prick you are. No calculations required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, wolfy said: No calculations required. Why bother with calculations when you can pluck a theory out of thin air? what a mong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Dr Gloom said: Why bother with calculations when you can pluck a theory out of thin air? what a mong Just common sense and logic and the ability not to always fall for propaganda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21912 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Ah, I get it. Without any empirical evidence to support your wild claims you're going for the keep saying it enough makes it fact approach Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: Just common sense and logic and the ability not to always fall for propaganda. Not common sense. If it was common, other people would agree with you or at least see your point of view; they don't. Not logic. If you believe a missile can travel a certain distance, then it's logical to assume a more powerful missile can travel further. Tell me, without calculations, why not. You can't can you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: Ah, I get it. Without any empirical evidence to support your wild claims you're going for the keep saying it enough makes it fact approach Wolfy has said in the past he doesn't believe in mathematics. Really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, Dr Gloom said: Ah, I get it. Without any empirical evidence to support your wild claims you're going for the keep saying it enough makes it fact approach Who has evidence? You have news media and you accept it when it suits and refuse to accept it when it suits. That's the nature of the beast. When your head's filled with propaganda you can follow it with interest as if it were all above board and as true to the word and nobody will change your mind. However, when you can blatantly see the games being played in many aspects, then you owe it to yourself to question everything and not accept anything as a truth until you are sure, with media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Ant said: it really isn't, what do you do for work? I'm semi retired with a stake in an innovation company that I once was a full partner in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 8 minutes ago, wolfy said: Who has evidence? You have news media and you accept it when it suits and refuse to accept it when it suits. That's the nature of the beast. When your head's filled with propaganda you can follow it with interest as if it were all above board and as true to the word and nobody will change your mind. However, when you can blatantly see the games being played in many aspects, then you owe it to yourself to question everything and not accept anything as a truth until you are sure, with media. An A level maths or physics student has evidence that you are far too stupid to understand. Since you can't do the most basic maths, in your own words tell me why a more powerfulossile can't fly further than a less powerful one. Can you do that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Renton said: Quote Not common sense. If it was common, other people would agree with you or at least see your point of view; they don't. It really is common sense. Unfortunately real common sense is suppressed by that very TV screen or radio or newspaper that is paraded before you. 4 minutes ago, Renton said: Not logic. If you believe a missile can travel a certain distance, then it's logical to assume a more powerful missile can travel further. Tell me, without calculations, why not. You can't can you? A more powerful missile requires a more powerful thrust and more fuel in order to achieve it. A BALLISTIC missile goes against itself in terms of gaining much more height, with fuel to weight ratio. Basically speaking, the bigger you get the weaker the missile becomes, in terms of structure and ultimately would basically collapse on the launch pad or not even get off the ground. ICBM'S do not exist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 1 minute ago, wolfy said: It really is common sense. Unfortunately real common sense is suppressed by that very TV screen or radio or newspaper that is paraded before you. A more powerful missile requires a more powerful thrust and more fuel in order to achieve it. A BALLISTIC missile goes against itself in terms of gaining much more height, with fuel to weight ratio. Basically speaking, the bigger you get the weaker the missile becomes, in terms of structure and ultimately would basically collapse on the launch pad or not even get off the ground. ICBM'S do not exist. Yeah, have you any evidence for this though? What's the maximum distance they can travel? Please show calculations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 12 minutes ago, Renton said: Wolfy has said in the past he doesn't believe in mathematics. Really. Mathematics work when realistic calculations are used for realistic things. It can also be used in manipulation or basically nonsensical equations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21576 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 Just now, wolfy said: Mathematics work when realistic calculations are used for realistic things. It can also be used in manipulation or basically nonsensical equations. How do you know this? If I recall you are mathematically illiterate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Renton said: An A level maths or physics student has evidence that you are far too stupid to understand. Since you can't do the most basic maths, in your own words tell me why a more powerfulossile can't fly further than a less powerful one. Can you do that? A more powerful missile can fly farther. I never said it couldn't. What those missiles can't do is go inter continentally by ballistic launching. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 3 minutes ago, Renton said: Yeah, have you any evidence for this though? What's the maximum distance they can travel? Please show calculations. A ballistic missile is just a large firework with a different outer casing and packed nose. That's it. It can be dressed up in all kinds of ways but the reality is, it's a basic firework. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolfy 12 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 4 minutes ago, Renton said: How do you know this? If I recall you are mathematically illiterate. I imagine you could recall a lot of things. Maybe a spoiled childhood or a recollection of once driving your uncles car, when you were really only sat on his knee going BRUM BRUM. It's amazing what people can recall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheGingerQuiff 2412 Posted September 16, 2017 Share Posted September 16, 2017 I'm beginning to think that the time wolfy spent sat on his uncle's lap could explain a few things. Did you question stuff back then wolfs? Whether he was really your uncle, perhaps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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