Meenzer 15518 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Look, there isn't really a middle ground here. Leazes is a racialist and we're a bunch of left wing subordinates who want the country run by gays and muslims, preferably after a few thousand innocent deaths in the name of Allah. Well, I for one say 'ALL HAIL EMPEROR MEENZER!' 149103[/snapback] If it gets people down on their knees in front of me, I'm not complaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 After seeing the Saudi players celebrate their goal yesterday, a friend of mine said that is what his RE teacher called 'bums in the air Islam'. Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 GREAT shirley 149110[/snapback] His medical qualifications don't extend that far tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 A few idiots should have a good, long hard think as to why there is immigration in this country. It takes a real clown to completely overlook this. On the subject on 'ordinary muslims.' The media is not interested in moderate people on telly, they are interested in making sure extremists get as much coverage as possible because it keeps their ratings up. There are other interested parties, political and corporate who are quite happy for this to go on as it promotes the idea that we are all in terrible, imminent danger and we should support our boys overseas who are busy securing their influence and fortune in oil rich lands and also give up some basic rights to freedom at home. It's terrorism of a different form, using terror and paranoia until we overule our ability to discriminate against this bullsh*t. The people i truly feel for are those who have bought into this ideal and have to suffer losing a loved one in some desert, fighting a fight to make some rich c*nt richer. 149094[/snapback] If thats another dig at me, I've thought about it for a few years and saw a lot of change in the UK during that time, a lot longer than you I bet. Also, I didn't say anything about past immigration - and by that I mean immigration before quite a lot of people on here were born - and only a clown wouldn't see that, or deliberately misinterpret my comments. Strange about your comment about us being in terrible, imminent danger, because I think its odd how some people believe that we are in no danger whatsoever from an enemy we can't see. It will, sadly, be interesting to see their reaction when some danger hits closer to home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Look, there isn't really a middle ground here. Leazes is a racialist and we're a bunch of left wing subordinates who want the country run by gays and muslims, preferably after a few thousand innocent deaths in the name of Allah. Well, I for one say 'ALL HAIL EMPEROR MEENZER!' 149103[/snapback] and you can't spell or get the word right, so you must be right there is no middle ground, and you must be one dumb cunt Sorry - a deluded, left wing, appeasing, clueless cunt, of about 12 years old by the sound of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think he was taking the piss, however 'racialist' is a word. It means the same as racist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think he was taking the piss, however 'racialist' is a word. It means the same as racist. 149213[/snapback] Thers also the fact that its always used as a jokey kind of word in an Alan Partridge style as when he called that bloke a "Bloody Mentalist". And the rest of SLP's post makes it blatantly clear he's having a luagh! I didn't know racialist was a proper accepted term meaning the same as racist though, so after 25 pages this thread has finally come up with a bit of almost useful information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think he was taking the piss, however 'racialist' is a word. It means the same as racist. 149213[/snapback] Thers also the fact that its always used as a jokey kind of word in an Alan Partridge style as when he called that bloke a "Bloody Mentalist". And the rest of SLP's post makes it blatantly clear he's having a luagh! I didn't know racialist was a proper accepted term meaning the same as racist though, so after 25 pages this thread has finally come up with a bit of almost useful information 149222[/snapback] Ali G is who I was thinking of when I read it "Is that not racialist?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 I think he was taking the piss, however 'racialist' is a word. It means the same as racist. 149213[/snapback] Thers also the fact that its always used as a jokey kind of word in an Alan Partridge style as when he called that bloke a "Bloody Mentalist". And the rest of SLP's post makes it blatantly clear he's having a luagh! I didn't know racialist was a proper accepted term meaning the same as racist though, so after 25 pages this thread has finally come up with a bit of almost useful information 149222[/snapback] Ali G is who I was thinking of when I read it "Is that not racialist?" 149223[/snapback] Yeah, there's loads of examples but its definitely a comedic use of words, usually to imply the person doesn't know what they're talking about on the subject at hand as they can't even get the word right, though it turns out the word is actually right after all!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) I think he was taking the piss, however 'racialist' is a word. It means the same as racist. 149213[/snapback] Thers also the fact that its always used as a jokey kind of word in an Alan Partridge style as when he called that bloke a "Bloody Mentalist". And the rest of SLP's post makes it blatantly clear he's having a luagh! I didn't know racialist was a proper accepted term meaning the same as racist though, so after 25 pages this thread has finally come up with a bit of almost useful information 149222[/snapback] to make a distinction. I would say that "racist" is a theoretical word used by theorists, who believe that race determines characteristics, whereas a "racialist" is someone who believes in race supremacy. Whatever. Racist is the most commonly used expression, Whereas someone who uses the word "racialist" instead, reminds me of when Chris Waddle used to come on TV and talk about someone getting a "pelanty". And the stupid mackem idiot thought he was being clever. So I place SLP's use of the word "racialist" in the bracket of a stupid mackem, or a stupid child, getting the expression incorrect, and he thought he was being clever. Either that or his use of language is poor, and he's just thick. Or maybe just not clever, like Renton. Not that I'm bothered like. EDIT. I see Alex hasn't bothered to answer Pilchard Chops yet either. What a surprise. Edited June 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh 149227[/snapback] Suggest you look at Bridgets and PL's posts that I agreed with PP. They prove I read posts. When they talk sense, they get a sensible reply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh 149227[/snapback] Suggest you look at Bridgets and PL's posts that I agreed with PP. They prove I read posts. When they talk sense, they get a sensible reply. 149259[/snapback] That answer proves my point though, all you've done there is refer to to two posts where you replied sensibly to a post you agreed with, what Im saying is you appear to skim, see theyre not backing you up (regardless of what stance they are taking) and automatically spout the abuse, NOTHING in any post of SLPs has he taken a left wing stance but he got the abuse thrown his way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh 149227[/snapback] Suggest you look at Bridgets and PL's posts that I agreed with PP. They prove I read posts. When they talk sense, they get a sensible reply. 149259[/snapback] That answer proves my point though, all you've done there is refer to to two posts where you replied sensibly to a post you agreed with, what Im saying is you appear to skim, see theyre not backing you up (regardless of what stance they are taking) and automatically spout the abuse, NOTHING in any post of SLPs has he taken a left wing stance but he got the abuse thrown his way. 149270[/snapback] PP, if he calls me a "racialist" .... am I not entitled to call him back ? And - he is the one who said "there is no middle ground", so he's either a "right wing racialist" or a "left wing do gooder". He implied it himself. If YOU read the post properly mate, you'll see that. If I thought for a moment he was up for a proper debate, I would have replied that there is of course middle ground, there is always middle ground in any view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Seems like HTL and Leazes are one and the same tbh. Both seem to bleat on when they are called a name (childish comment, petty jibe, unecessary, etc), but have absolutely no problem in calling people clueless cunts. Outstanding tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh 149227[/snapback] Suggest you look at Bridgets and PL's posts that I agreed with PP. They prove I read posts. When they talk sense, they get a sensible reply. 149259[/snapback] That answer proves my point though, all you've done there is refer to to two posts where you replied sensibly to a post you agreed with, what Im saying is you appear to skim, see theyre not backing you up (regardless of what stance they are taking) and automatically spout the abuse, NOTHING in any post of SLPs has he taken a left wing stance but he got the abuse thrown his way. 149270[/snapback] PP, if he calls me a "racialist" .... am I not entitled to call him back ? And - he is the one who said "there is no middle ground", so he's either a "right wing racialist" or a "left wing do gooder". He implied it himself. If YOU read the post properly mate, you'll see that. If I thought for a moment he was up for a proper debate, I would have replied that there is of course middle ground, there is always middle ground in any view. 149277[/snapback] If its justified then yes, course you can however you would have had to had a total humour bypass to have read that post as anything other than a pisstake. For fucks sake he ends it with "all hail emperor Meenzer" or sumit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 Seems like HTL and Leazes are one and the same tbh. Both seem to bleat on when they are called a name (childish comment, petty jibe, unecessary, etc), but have absolutely no problem in calling people clueless cunts. Outstanding tbh. 149280[/snapback] Shame you think only one person in the world disagrees with your views Sima. Or someone else who calls people racists, bigots or whatever, just because they disagree with you. Thats different isn't it ? Take some medical lessons from Renton, such is the wide ranging knowledge of his qualification, he'll put you right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 (edited) What it does prove though is that Leazes doesnt read a fucking word that is written by anyone else, if it doesnt say "I agree with Leazes" at the start then he skips it, either that or he needs a refund on the speed reading course he bought! As you've already pointed out SLP has (as he always does) took the piss out of all sides throughout this and every other thread, not once put forward a left wing view yet what is LM called him? oh aye a "deluded, appeasing, left wing cunt" and to top it off uses the most blatant misuse of a smilie ever tbh 149227[/snapback] Suggest you look at Bridgets and PL's posts that I agreed with PP. They prove I read posts. When they talk sense, they get a sensible reply. 149259[/snapback] That answer proves my point though, all you've done there is refer to to two posts where you replied sensibly to a post you agreed with, what Im saying is you appear to skim, see theyre not backing you up (regardless of what stance they are taking) and automatically spout the abuse, NOTHING in any post of SLPs has he taken a left wing stance but he got the abuse thrown his way. 149270[/snapback] PP, if he calls me a "racialist" .... am I not entitled to call him back ? And - he is the one who said "there is no middle ground", so he's either a "right wing racialist" or a "left wing do gooder". He implied it himself. If YOU read the post properly mate, you'll see that. If I thought for a moment he was up for a proper debate, I would have replied that there is of course middle ground, there is always middle ground in any view. 149277[/snapback] If its justified then yes, course you can however you would have had to had a total humour bypass to have read that post as anything other than a pisstake. For fucks sake he ends it with "all hail emperor Meenzer" or sumit. 149282[/snapback] Well, when I saw that bit, I just thought he'd been watching too much of Big Brother yesterday EDIT. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/opinion/main.jh...6/14/do1402.xml An interesting view. Obviously written by myself or HTL Edited June 15, 2006 by LeazesMag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well I for one think that this thread has ended up in a total bitch fest, heres the points I took from it......(I dont necessarily agree with the points, its just what stands out as having been said) if people wish to get it back on track then feel free to post corrections to these thoughts or answer the questions raised. 1. Leazes posts the story of the terrorist raids and has the view that one way to reduce the chances of further terrorism on these shores is to stop any future immigration. 2. Renton disagrees with this view, pointing out that it appears the men arrested were British. 3. Renton calls LM Enoch Powell 4. LM retorts calling Renton Chemical/ Comical Ali. 5. LM questions the authenticity of reading about an historic figure. 6. Renton states Enoch was LMs mate. 7. Renton gives up 8. LM uses the words "left wing dogooder" for the 7th time in 3 pages 9. Renton gives up "again" I was going to document the whole thread on this basis as a chance to show that it was 6 of one, half a dozen of another however on reviewing the first 3 pages I see that not once has Renton mentioned his qualifications, not once has he advocated soft left wing options rather than sorting the problem out. I also see that LM, you are unable to use the edit function to correct a very bad mix up with the Chemical/ Comical Ali's which did make you look stupid. You also have refused to answer any question put forward by Renton no matter how many times hes asked them, he however answered your questions numerous times (he also said he was leaving numerous times ) The thread then degenerated into ridiculous name calling and wankness (mostly Im sorry to say on your behalf LM). So lets solve this once and for all, here is a list of questions for two members to answer Renton and Leazes, I dont want answers from anyone else but I would hope to see all of them answered by those two even if its just to say "i dont know" All questions should be answered by both people and honestly. 1. Do you support the BNP? 2. Are you a member of the communist party? 3. What newspaper do you read? 4. Who in your view constitutes a threat? All muslims, British muslims, immigrants, other (please specify). 5. What punishment should be given to suicide bombers? 6. Should we have a shoot to kill policy? 7. Innocent til proven guilty or guilty til proven innocent? 8. Terrorists should be given community service and a cup of tea. Agree? 9. The hijackers that were allowed to stay, good or bad? I think that should answer the outstanding issues, these are all questions raised but never answered or accusations made without source from both sides. Now whos man enough to answer them. Oh and respect is due Leazes for not going back and editing the Chemical Ali bit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Cue LM saying I've already answered all of those and if you can't be bothered to look that's your problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10856 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 LEAZES why do you persist? and don't spout that shite about "I know, they don't have a clue, do they?" I agree with some of the values you claim to hold, but find the way you express them abhorrent. the further down this particular path you barrel, the more of a cartoon of yourself, you become. seriously mate, make a distinction between actual political disagreement and debate, and petulant name calling and ignorance. I honestly felt the need to distance myself from your views to someone on here because youwent through a few pages where you mentioned me in your posts, despite not echoing my points or referencing them either. You sauid "I agree with GF" then went to the extreme of the subject. I think that debate is healthy and it's good to see both sides fo the copin, but don't do your views a dis-service by hiding them under a haystack of dismissive abuse. luv and hugs GF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21605 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 well I for one think that this thread has ended up in a total bitch fest, heres the points I took from it......(I dont necessarily agree with the points, its just what stands out as having been said) if people wish to get it back on track then feel free to post corrections to these thoughts or answer the questions raised. 1. Leazes posts the story of the terrorist raids and has the view that one way to reduce the chances of further terrorism on these shores is to stop any future immigration. 2. Renton disagrees with this view, pointing out that it appears the men arrested were British. 3. Renton calls LM Enoch Powell 4. LM retorts calling Renton Chemical/ Comical Ali. 5. LM questions the authenticity of reading about an historic figure. 6. Renton states Enoch was LMs mate. 7. Renton gives up 8. LM uses the words "left wing dogooder" for the 7th time in 3 pages 9. Renton gives up "again" I was going to document the whole thread on this basis as a chance to show that it was 6 of one, half a dozen of another however on reviewing the first 3 pages I see that not once has Renton mentioned his qualifications, not once has he advocated soft left wing options rather than sorting the problem out. I also see that LM, you are unable to use the edit function to correct a very bad mix up with the Chemical/ Comical Ali's which did make you look stupid. You also have refused to answer any question put forward by Renton no matter how many times hes asked them, he however answered your questions numerous times (he also said he was leaving numerous times ) The thread then degenerated into ridiculous name calling and wankness (mostly Im sorry to say on your behalf LM). So lets solve this once and for all, here is a list of questions for two members to answer Renton and Leazes, I dont want answers from anyone else but I would hope to see all of them answered by those two even if its just to say "i dont know" All questions should be answered by both people and honestly. 1. Do you support the BNP? No 2. Are you a member of the communist party? No 3. What newspaper do you read? The Times (sometimes, always on Saturday)/Metro (if I get public transport) 4. Who in your view constitutes a threat? All muslims, British muslims, immigrants, other (please specify) Firstly others (mainly charvers), but that's a personal matter. Otherwise, criminals in general. Not overly worried about being blown up by muslims. 5. What punishment should be given to suicide bombers? Unsuccessful ones? Life imprisonment, meaning life. 6. Should we have a shoot to kill policy? Only if you're sure.... 7. Innocent til proven guilty or guilty til proven innocent? The first one. The most important aspect of our justice system, I'd be willing to die for it. 8. Terrorists should be given community service and a cup of tea. Agree? No 9. The hijackers that were allowed to stay, good or bad? This has been answered, but, personally I believe they should serve 20 years, and then be deported back to Afghanistan (maybe things will be better there in 20 years). I think that should answer the outstanding issues, these are all questions raised but never answered or accusations made without source from both sides. Now whos man enough to answer them. Oh and respect is due Leazes for not going back and editing the Chemical Ali bit 149351[/snapback] Hope this helps, but bare in mind I literally don't want to be exposed to anything Leazes says from now on - having him on ignore actually really does make this a better board imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 Over to you LM.... oh and if anyone wants to disagree with any answer given by either of our lovely contestants then I expect to see a clear concise link to a previous post where they've contradicted it otherwise piss off cos I for one cant be arsed to go trawling to hunt out the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 15, 2006 Author Share Posted June 15, 2006 LEAZES why do you persist? and don't spout that shite about "I know, they don't have a clue, do they?" I agree with some of the values you claim to hold, but find the way you express them abhorrent. the further down this particular path you barrel, the more of a cartoon of yourself, you become. seriously mate, make a distinction between actual political disagreement and debate, and petulant name calling and ignorance. I honestly felt the need to distance myself from your views to someone on here because youwent through a few pages where you mentioned me in your posts, despite not echoing my points or referencing them either. You sauid "I agree with GF" then went to the extreme of the subject. I think that debate is healthy and it's good to see both sides fo the copin, but don't do your views a dis-service by hiding them under a haystack of dismissive abuse. luv and hugs GF 149397[/snapback] Point taken mate. However, its ironic that some people on here think its alright to take the piss, yet when I do it, DESERVEDLEY IMO, it's not recognised as such. I like proving Renton wrong, I think the notion that someone who has "medical qualifications" considers himself to be an expert on defence, security, or anything he wishes to make a comment on because he has this "medical qualification" to be absolutely stupid. However, its not desirable for a bomb to go off to prove me right, much as he is prepared to accept such things, I'm not. I'm sorry if you think the way I express my view abhorrent, but Renton also seems to like calling me thick, however I am confident that more bombs will go off, unfortunately, making me right and him wrong. Who is thick then ? Do people want to tackle this problem, or not ? Because we are obviously not tackling it enough, or in the right way if bombs are going off ! I also suspect some people like these debates more than they admit .... you never know, one or two people might see how idealistic and deluded they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasepud 59 Posted June 15, 2006 Share Posted June 15, 2006 friggin hell have you two been out together? no sign of either of you then suddenly you both appear at well after midnight to post? strange...... Anyone ever seen Renton and Leazes together? tell ye theyre one and the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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