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[Renton 22064]

I'd love to know why you think they're bombing us Leazes? Or planning to. I don't support what they do one iota by the way. What do you think their grievances are though?

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I pointed this out a few posts ago.

 

Anyway Leazes, are you a BNP supporter? Yes or no?

[Guest alex]

I don't expect an answer like

[luckypierre 0]

sorry Gemmill but last one..

 

Deliberate misuse of words. If you have done nothing you have the freedom to choose if you want to stay out at night, or drink alcohol.

 

You do not have a choice in whether or not you are safe from terrorists.

 

its not misuse of words. I do not have the choice to be hit by a drunk driver. I do not have the choice to be set upon or not by some drunken arseholes in town. I do not have the choice of a terrorist placing a bomb in a place where I might be. Its the same overall question? Does the reason of saving lives warrant the erosion of civil liberties? Yes or No? You cant pick and choose your situations to suit. Far more people would be saved by banning alcohol than would be if we had no more terrorist attacks

 

 

So the only way to cure that is to curtail their freedom. If someone is a suspected terrorist, they must be kept a closer tab on if they are already here - and any excuse taken to haul them in too - and if one is attempting to get into the country

they must not be allowed to until it is proved otherwise. If the services need more funding, more manpower and new laws, get them. There cannot be any concessions made here if we are to tackle this. I can't see how anyone can dispute it. If you are seriously prepared to say these people have "rights" to walk around this country the only thing I can say to you is to stand by and prepare for more bombs. Just don't go complaining about them when they happen near you or anywhere else, or expressing condemnation, or even worse blaming the security services when you are preventing measures to help them.

 

This is definitely the last post as you continuously ignore anything anyone has said about this issue. Curtail whos freedom? We dont know who they are , thats the problem! You cant prove youre not something, prove you arent a terrorist Leazes, how would you do it? What measures are we preventing? Its already been pointed out that actual terrorists, not fictional, have not entered the target country by illegal immegration. Targeting an innocent group of people and labelling them terrorists just because they're immigrants from the middle east wont solve anything! All of the 7/7 bombers didnt fit this profile.

 

The bit in bold is exactly the way the situation is. Again what measure by pointing out that immegration has nothing to do with terrorism am I blocking? You can never have enough manpower, or enough funding ffs. We dont know who these people are because of the nature of who they are and what they do. The US is using all of it s resources to find the most famous terrorist on the planet, and they cant! How do we find terrorists that we dont know anything about?

 

Wouldnt your suggestion have worked just as well with the IRA? Dont let anyone Irish into the UK? You havent suggested that and have tried to distance the IRA from the current situation? why? Like Ive pointed out the IRA were a more serious threat because of their proximity both physically and their support network.

 

I don't think so. At the end of the day, the IRA bombed us because they wanted us out of NI, do you think if we pull out of the middle east the global bombing and terrorism would stop ? Along with the immigration problem ?

 

So banning a whole group of people from entering the country because some might be terrorists wont make a difference? Thank you

 

I asked the question earlier and unsurprisingly you didnt respond. What are Al Quaedas aims? Hamas's? Why does the specific aim make a difference to how we tackle it?

 

They all have one. It might seem rather stupid and pointless but its there just like it was for the IRA. Theres no difference. These arent just mad muslim groups raging around the globe with the intent of killing people for the sake of it. Al Quaeda certainly initially wanted the US out of Saudi Arabia. Like I said before the only way terrorism stops is if they get what they want or the reason wanting it are removed. You cant fight a war against terrorists! You cant fight a war against an enemy you dont know!

 

You'd think this was a new problem the way you go on. How many active terrorist groups are there now compared to the 70's and 80's? Hardly any.

 

The immigration problem is a completley separate issue from terrorism. Why keep trying to link it? Its farcical. If we do pull out of the middle east and the reason for terrorist attacks stop why would that affect immigration into this country? Completley different issue

 

whats increasing? Immigration? yes but yet again this isnt linked to terrorism and has nothing to do with how we best tackle it. The threat historically and factually is from present UK citizens and organised, funded terrorist organistions that have the resources to enter a country legitimately. Theres so many ifs and buts about that statement its ridiculous. Why are immigrants more likely to be influenced?. The vast majority want nothing more thant to have some affinity to the UK , they've come here for a better life. Where the evidence to back your statement up? Or the life experience? Ever lived outside of Newcastle? Ever lived in a muslim community?. Probably the best way to put them on the road you describe is to single them out and treat them like criminals, give them something to hate this country for. Oh and before you jump in this doesnt mean we should give them free houses and have all their relatives over either. Did the british lads responsible for 7/7 not have an affinity for the UK then? if not, why? How do you decide who has an affintiy for the UK or not? What are your criteria?

 

You make too many assumptions about me. They are all wrong. At least you admit that immigration is increasing. Increasing the potential for more "disaffected UK citizens". Correct ?

 

I get the impression you are happy to let it continue. We do not have the duty or the facilities to care for the rest of the world. We should not be regarded as a gravy train, which we are, which is of course why they single out Britain. How much more strain do you think can be put on the the country and our social services ? Which is all going to increase the potential for "more disaffected UK citizens". Correct ?

 

If you want to discuss the merits or not of immigration its a different discussion. Again though its a rather tabloid look at the issue. Whats the percentage of immigrants on benefits comapred to those at work? Whats the same percentage for those you would describe as British? Which social group is really putting the strain on the welfare state? It isnt immigrants. What assumptions have I made? How are they wrong? You go on about life experience but it doesnt seem like you have much. What would make immigrants, and minority groups feel disenfranchised? To be given the same rights and freedoms as everyone else in this country? or to be treat like shit from day one?

 

the police and the intelligence services dont get things wrong then? Course they do!

 

Do you think that people suspected of terrorism arent under survaillence? Theres no laws that need changing for this to happen. Its the same problem as it was with the IRA and it comes down to intelligence. No changing of laws will change this. It wont make it easier to find who terrorist x is because we just dont know who and where they are. The problem is they arent on the list! Or if they are and they are more organised have the resources to avoid detection.

 

I didn't say they don't get things wrong. All we can do is minimise it as best as possible. Of course I know terrorist suspects are under surveillance. Not enough though. And the law isn't tight enough to deal with them properly. Which is what I said at the beginning. Surveillance in NI is different to surveillance of a middle eastern terror network. These are established over a number of years. Establishing networks in NI is obviously easier than in the middle east. And the potential of this middle eastern terrorism vastly exceeds that of the IRA, making it more important for it to be tackled more stringently. The IRA bombed us because they wanted us out of NI, yes ? Remind us again why middle eastern terrorists are bombing us ?

 

What law isnt tight enough? how will it benefit? The potential of a middle east terrorist group does not exceed those of the IRA because of the reasons you yourself have stated. If terrorist cells are here , they are here and the act autonomously. They havent got the same manpower and support network in as close proximity as the IRA had

 

Errm well we havent been bombed by middle eastern terrorists, have we? not for a long long time. I'd guess the last middle eastern connected incident was Lockerbie, could be wrong like

 

Why are there middle eastern terrorists? Ive put that question to you numerous times. For some reason you think its because they want to live here??? Are you not aware of whats been going on the world for the past 50 years?

 

Terrroism isnt new. Middle eastern terrorist groups arent new. The arent even as active as they were in the past.

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[Renton 22064]

LP, I know you know this and can't help yourself, but you are making the mistake of believing that LM can think rationally and understand the concepts you mention.

 

I think it's patently obvious that Leazes is using the threat of terrorism as an excuse to fuel his feelings of bigotry and racism, it really is pointless discussing these issues with him. It really is - my advice is to give up asap, which I neglected to do unfortunately .

 

Btw, how long did that Shepherd thread get to on N-O - the one with Macbeth? 80 pages or something with Leazes repeating the same thing, over and over again....

[luckypierre 0]

I know I know

 

someone stop me

[Gemmill 46231]

Btw, how long did that Shepherd thread get to on N-O - the one with Macbeth? 80 pages or something with Leazes repeating the same thing, over and over again....

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Exactly. He's pretty much in full auto-post mode on this thread too. He just turns up, scrolls to the last post in the thread.....scrolls past it without reading, presses quote and writes off the top of his head about muslims, immigrants and the threat of terror.

[spongebob toonpants 4166]

I cant decide what I am looking forward to more. Leazes next post or the World Cup starting. Little does he know but he is a comedy legend in my place of work

[Renton 22064]

That's the thing - he does have an element of brilliant comedy about him!

[Guest alex]

I think it's patently obvious that Leazes is using the threat of terrorism as an excuse to fuel his feelings of bigotry and racism.

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First post in the thread tells you that tbh.

[The Fish 10978]

so no-one is bored of this thread yet then?

[Guest alex]

so no-one is bored of this thread yet then?

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One of your verbose posts could cure that

[The Fish 10978]

Dick

[Radgina 1]

so no-one is bored of this thread yet then?

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hell yes.... but for some strange reason I am compelled to keep coming back to it to see what shit has been spouted since i last succumbed...

[LeazesMag 0]

Keep it going Renton. For someone who thinks they are intelligent, its pretty immature to attempt to talk down someone just because you disagree with them.

My opinions are based on life experience, and an awareness of reality. What are yours based on ? You are giving more of an impression that you are just reading from a book, all the time.

 

I have said we can't stop them, or all of them if they are already inside the EU. However I have said what I would do to them. You can disagree as much as you like, but doing it my way means they won't do it again. Guaranteed.

 

When the reality sinks in what will happen to them, I keep saying this, but if it deters one person it is worthwhile, and if just one bomb goes off that is detonated by someone who should not be here, it also vindicates my comments too.

 

Lastly, if you think the threat has not grown in the last decade, and therefore will not continue without a change in policy, then you are sadly out of touch with reality. As for the security services, they might just do a better job if people would let them get on with their job rather than creating a situation whereby they go into life threatening situations knowing the do gooder brigade will crucify them for the simple act of reacting first if someone appears to be about to pulling a weapon on them.

 

I think you would change your fantastically complacent stance if something closer to yourself happened to you.

 

"I guess for the minute we just keep plodding along hoping the next attack is not too severe ... like we did in the 1970s, 80s, and 90s with the IRA" is a disgraceful comment to make, and shows your naivety, bearing in mind that people on here could have friends or family who have suffered at the hands of the IRA.

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Leazes, I'm not going to bother answering most of this, because LP has answered all your points thoroughly in the posts above this, which I agree with in their entirety, and which he put better than I could. Tbh I get the impression he knows more about this subject than me, and a certainly more than you. So please answer him, if you can.

 

I'm surprised you think my comment on the IRA was disgraceful, after all I was only stating what happened. I am old enough to have experienced these decades and from what I remember the threat from terrorism was greater then - bombs were going off in Northern Ireland and the mainland on a virtual weekly basis.

 

In your opinion btw, how was the problem in Northern Ireland solved? Through dialogue and negotiation, or were the IRA beaten by millitary force? I'd like a clear answer on that one. Imo that is the only way a terror campaign can ever be ended, name one example where this is not the case?

 

Of course, the present day islamic terrorists are a completely different kettle of fish - different ideology, faith, methods, targets, and perhaps most importantly, they don't have a clear aim. This actually make appeasement as you put it impossible. However, I don't think they pose as big as threat as the government would have us believe, I really don't. I can't be arsed to fully explain to you why I believe this, because I'd just get your usual insults and assumptions about me, but in summary this is because there's only been two significant bombings in the nearly 5 years since 9/11 (London and Madrid).

 

During this time US and european intelligence agencies have had virtually no success in infiltrating any islamic extremist organisations, let alone prosecuting anyone. Why is this? Could be for a number of reasons, but to me it seems likely that well-funded, organised, islamic terror networks just don't exist. This was borne out by the fact that 7/7 was seemingly carried out by a rather amateurish group acting independently. As LP has said (I think) these groups are going to be incredibly hard to track down, almost impossible in fact, but at the same time the range of damage they can cause will be short of apocalyptic (though still horrific, as witnessed on 7/7). How many attacks we suffer I think will be proportional to how many of these groups there are - fortunately so far they seem to be limited in number.

 

When I said plodding on, I meant that for the time being at least the status quo will continue, and we will have no options but to put up with it. How can we expect it to end when there is no physical enemy to negotiate with? But you have come up with no measures at all that will make a difference. I hate to tell you Leazes but there are far more intelligent men than us making decisions on our behalf, and they haven't come up with a solution yet, and i doubt they will. But perhaps you send MI5 an e-mail of your solution - I'm sure they'd be really grateful.

 

Lastly, one matter I'm curious on. Who exactly do you think I am, what education do you think I have and in what subjects, and where do you think I get the information from in order to inform my opinions? I ask this because I am sick and tired of you making assumptions about me, most of which are patently wrong. Also, I'd be interested why you think your life and experience and perception of reality is more valid than mine, or anyone elses for that matter, a common theme to most your posts (on both general and NUFC boards). Yet you call me patronising.

 

Pompous I would accept btw. Fuck, that turned out to be quite a long post.

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1. LP certainly appears to know more than you, he certainly puts his case across without resorting to childish insults like you do. Whether he knows more than me - I doubt it - but again he might, that is a matter of opinion, just because you disagree doesn't mean I am less informed. As you know nothing about me, you should not make such assumptions, is a statement I believe you have insinuated, if not directly said, elsewhere. Rather hypocritical, don't you think ?

 

2. Yes I think your comment on the IRA was disgraceful. You were stating that we should simply sit back and wait for the next bomb to explode in the UK "as we did with the IRA". You would sing a completely different tune if someone YOU knew had been killed, injured, or hurt in a previous act of terrorism by the IRA. Completely lacking in sensitivity, not that I'm surprised. Basically, even ONE more bomb is NOT acceptable.

 

3. The problem of NI is basically "solved" because we gave in to them. The murderers Adams and McGuiness are now seen as "statesmen". Which is nothing other than a joke. The people are obviously happy with the peace that now exists after decades of violence and who can blame them. What is the future ? What If Ireland becomes a united country, which is STILL the aim of the IRA ? Their violence got us round the negotiating table, you never bargain with terrorists. Will the muslim bombers get us round the negotiating table ? What do you think they will want ?

 

4. You may be right in the comment that well funded islamic organisations do not exist - now. Although past results suggest they are orgnanised and funded enough. But don't you think we should be concerned that they just might become bigger, better funded, and more organised ? They are not going to go away.

I am not interested in talking about such things as "proportion of attacks", because IMO even one attack is one too many.

 

5. Odd that you say you are sick and tired of me making assumptions about you, because I am sick and tired of you making assumptions about me. Odd also that you are sick of me assuming you know about my education and backround, and where you get the information to base your opinions, because I am also sick of you assuming you know about my education, backround, most of which are wrong, and where I get the information from to base my opinions. Strange eh. Pompous is indeed a good word to describe yourself.

 

I'll catch up with LP tomorrow. His post is the most thoughtful of the two of you, and I have more time then.

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Well since we're agreed LP knows more about this than me, I'm prepared to hand over the batton to him now - cheers LP.

 

Just a couple of things. Firstly you suggest I need to know you personally to know you are ignorant of the facts involved in this discussion. That's balatent bullshit isn't it? You make your ignorance apparent on virtually every post you make, for instance citing the genocide of the kurds as a good reason to invade Iraq, but not even knowing who was involved in this atrocity.

 

Still think I said absolutely nothing offensive regards the IRA, but then you have a very strange way of reading, or inability to read, as you have shown hilariously in several of your posts on this very thread. Cheers for the entertainment btw.

 

Finally you say I make assumptions about you. Well yes, I think pretty much every person on here has made particular assumptions about you. But I have kept them to myself, unlike you, who have repeatedly stated things that are incorrect about me, such as what newspaper I read, that I derive my opinions from fancy dan lecturers, and that I think I have all the answers, when I readily admit I have none of them.

 

One assumption I have made of you is that you vote BNP or indeed may be an activist for this party. I think this deserves a straight answer Leazes. Please give it.

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Such patronising, and hypocrisy. You object to people assuming things about you, then assume you know me.

 

You don't. You also know, or understand, very little about the security and intelligence systems of the UK. You think you do, but you don't. In my opinion, you are the ignorant one in this respect. You show THAT in every post you make, especially your comment about being prepared to "wait for the next bomb....".

That is one of the most apathetic, defeatist, and ignorant comments I have ever read on this message board. If not the most.

 

Nothing you have assumed about me is true. However, I have to assume you get your ideas from books, rather than your own experience or others of experience. Of that I am pretty certain. There is no chance of ever getting this problem sorted while people like you are not prepared to give the security services more powers to apprehend and retain suspected terrorists.

 

So much so, that I really can't see the point of debating it with you, as you continue to behave like a child when I have tried to make adult responses. I think you are better off basking in the knowledge you think you have. Just get ready for the next bombs, as you say it's ...."just like waiting for the next IRA one...." lets' hope it isn't you in the middle of it.

 

I would prefer to try and tackle the problem personally.

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[peasepud 59]

You don't. You also know, or understand, very little about the security and intelligence systems of the UK. You think you do, but you don't. In my opinion, you are the ignorant one in this respect.

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None of you know what its like in the intelligence services, always having to be on your guard, living your life pretending your a quiet civil servant doing a project kinda job. Little do you know that we are always working, protecting this country. I tell you its not easy being a spy for MI5, sometimes I think I should just go do a different job.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh fucking hell, thats me failed covert ops on the annual assesment

[LeazesMag 0]

You don't. You also know, or understand, very little about the security and intelligence systems of the UK. You think you do, but you don't. In my opinion, you are the ignorant one in this respect.

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None of you know what its like in the intelligence services, always having to be on your guard, living your life pretending your a quiet civil servant doing a project kinda job. Little do you know that we are always working, protecting this country. I tell you its not easy being a spy for MI5, sometimes I think I should just go do a different job.

 

Oh fucking hell, thats me failed covert ops on the annual assesment

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Can't believe people are sitting back and accepting we are going to get bombed again, and are prepared to let suspects get on with doing it. Amazing.

[The Fish 10978]

I don't think they are Leazes, I just think that they are as in the dark about exactly who it will be as you are.

[LeazesMag 0]

Btw, how long did that Shepherd thread get to on N-O - the one with Macbeth? 80 pages or something with Leazes repeating the same thing, over and over again....

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Exactly. He's pretty much in full auto-post mode on this thread too. He just turns up, scrolls to the last post in the thread.....scrolls past it without reading, presses quote and writes off the top of his head about muslims, immigrants and the threat of terror.

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aye Gem....but I'm right, just like I was about Souness....time will tell. I also only hope that when Shepherd goes, you don't find out the hard way there too ....

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[Renton 22064]

Are you getting paranoid Leazes? What assumptions have I wrote on here about you? Go on, name one, give me the post number.

 

I think you are thick, yes, but then I'm sure virtually every poster on here thinks that as it's self evident - why not ask them?

 

There is literally only one question I would like you to answer now, and as usual, this is the third time of asking. Are you a supporter of the BNP?

 

I am perfectly happy to tell you who I vote for and what organizations I have involvement in btw, if you want, I've nothing to hide.

[peasepud 59]

You don't. You also know, or understand, very little about the security and intelligence systems of the UK. You think you do, but you don't. In my opinion, you are the ignorant one in this respect.

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None of you know what its like in the intelligence services, always having to be on your guard, living your life pretending your a quiet civil servant doing a project kinda job. Little do you know that we are always working, protecting this country. I tell you its not easy being a spy for MI5, sometimes I think I should just go do a different job.

 

Oh fucking hell, thats me failed covert ops on the annual assesment

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Can't believe people are sitting back and accepting we are going to get bombed again, and are prepared to let suspects get on with doing it. Amazing.

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Not sure why you quoted me there? was it because I felt that humour was appropriate? EDIT: On rereading it, I think you were having a laugh along so apologies.

 

Personally, I dont think anyone (not even the REAL sandalistas) are happy to sit back and let us be bombed, I think however theres an inevitability about it, no matter what our security services do it will never be enough, pile as much money in as possible and it still wouldnt solve the problem.

 

Another bomb will go off in Britain its as simple as that, after that one there will be another and then another, we will never be safe. However joking aside, I dont let that stop me going to work in a place thats allegedly on Al Qaedas top 10 mainland civilian targets. It doesnt stop me going to the pub even though they are allgedlyt targets and it sure as hell wont stop me joking about it. Stiff British lip and all that.

 

My disagreement (and I feel that of many people on here) with you isnt in the fact that things need to be done its your view (which you're more than entitled to, and is understandable) of the solution.

 

As has been said far better by others such as Renton and LP is that stopping immigration will not solve the problem, if anything it will exasperate it, putting a blanket ban on Muslims entering this country will turn this into a holy war, it will become Christian versus Muslim and the many millions of muslims already here will be outraged which in turn will flip those who were already on the fence onto the side of Al'Qaeda. The 7/7 bombers were not immigrants they were British citizens, as said before some of them didnt look middle eastern they were carribean. Richard Reid the shoe bomber wasnt Iraqi or Saudi he was British, white english mother and Jamaican father so how do you stop him and the many thousands like him?

 

The only way is to rely on intelligence and as each one is caught then the rest become cleverer they dont make the same mistakes. These terrorists are ingenious and know how to get around the security. Do you know how the 7/7 bombers communicated? it was email but so simple yet secure that it couldnt be traced, what they did was have one Yahoo account which they all knew the password for then worte emails and saved them as drafts therefore they never went anywhere, never passed through GCHQ. Never triggered any keyword searches as they were never spoken or transmitted. This is just the tip of the iceberg, if they dont make mistakes then nobody becomes suspicious and therefore never end up on the security services radar.

 

Its an impossible task, yes I agree you dont pander to their demands and dont put "namby pamby" sentences in but at the same time you sure as hell dont do something as stupid as label the entire muslim religion as being terrorists.

[Renton 22064]

It's funny how our security forces and government point out constantly that it's not a question of if but when there is another bomb attack, yet when I point this out Leazes states I am apathetic, defeatist, and ignorant. And I am the one not living in reality.

 

Anyway, I seriously cannot be arsed to argue any more (definately this time LL), I just want an honest answer from Leazes whether or not he is a supporter of the BNP. Fourth time of asking.

[Guest Sima]

I'm still waiting for him to answer why the Police should have had evidence on ordinary British citizens prior to 7/7.

[LeazesMag 0]

Are you getting paranoid Leazes? What assumptions have I wrote on here about you? Go on, name one, give me the post number.

 

I think you are thick, yes, but then I'm sure virtually every poster on here thinks that as it's self evident - why not ask them?

 

There is literally only one question I would like you to answer now, and as usual, this is the third time of asking. Are you a supporter of the BNP?

 

I am perfectly happy to tell you who I vote for and what organizations I have involvement in btw, if you want, I've nothing to hide.

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Odd Renton. But most of the people I work with, and the people I chat with in the pub, think left wing do gooders like you are thick. And stupid. And gullible. And naive. And read too many books by fancy dan lecturers. And that you are funny...not that we think letting potential bombers loose on the streets of the UK is acceptable, waiting for the next bomb, like you do.

 

I really have no problem with coming onto a message board and pointing out to people like you, how wrong you are.

 

If you learn to read - having made the same comment towards myself on a few occasions - you could try looking back and seeing where I say that nothing you have assumed of me is correct.

[Renton 22064]

Are you getting paranoid Leazes? What assumptions have I wrote on here about you? Go on, name one, give me the post number.

 

I think you are thick, yes, but then I'm sure virtually every poster on here thinks that as it's self evident - why not ask them?

 

There is literally only one question I would like you to answer now, and as usual, this is the third time of asking. Are you a supporter of the BNP?

 

I am perfectly happy to tell you who I vote for and what organizations I have involvement in btw, if you want, I've nothing to hide.

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Odd Renton. But most of the people I work with, and the people I chat with in the pub, think left wing do gooders like you are thick. And stupid. And gullible. And naive. And read too many books by fancy dan lecturers. And that you are funny...not that we think letting potential bombers loose on the streets of the UK is acceptable, waiting for the next bomb, like you do.

 

I really have no problem with coming onto a message board and pointing out to people like you, how wrong you are.

 

If you learn to read - having made the same comment towards myself on a few occasions - you could try looking back and seeing where I say that nothing you have assumed of me is correct.

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Leazes, that's because the people you chat with in pubs are also morons, like yourself. Frankly I can't be arsed even to get involved in a slanging match with you though; I'm sure everyone on this board know who the thick one is.

 

Have you answered if you are a BNP supporter yet? Apologies if you have, just take a few seconds of your time to direct me to the post number if I missed it.

 

Otherwise answer me yes or no please. Fifth time of asking.

[LeazesMag 0]

Are you getting paranoid Leazes? What assumptions have I wrote on here about you? Go on, name one, give me the post number.

 

I think you are thick, yes, but then I'm sure virtually every poster on here thinks that as it's self evident - why not ask them?

 

There is literally only one question I would like you to answer now, and as usual, this is the third time of asking. Are you a supporter of the BNP?

 

I am perfectly happy to tell you who I vote for and what organizations I have involvement in btw, if you want, I've nothing to hide.

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Odd Renton. But most of the people I work with, and the people I chat with in the pub, think left wing do gooders like you are thick. And stupid. And gullible. And naive. And read too many books by fancy dan lecturers. And that you are funny...not that we think letting potential bombers loose on the streets of the UK is acceptable, waiting for the next bomb, like you do.

 

I really have no problem with coming onto a message board and pointing out to people like you, how wrong you are.

 

If you learn to read - having made the same comment towards myself on a few occasions - you could try looking back and seeing where I say that nothing you have assumed of me is correct.

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Leazes, that's because the people you chat with in pubs are also morons, like yourself. Frankly I can't be arsed even to get involved in a slanging match with you though; I'm sure everyone on this board know who the thick one is.

 

Have you answered if you are a BNP supporter yet? Apologies if you have, just take a few seconds of your time to direct me to the post number if I missed it.

 

Otherwise answer me yes or no please. Fifth time of asking.

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Strange. Again. You see, the left wing, anti west stuff that you come out with is exactly the same as what the CND supporters came out with during the Cold War.

Anyone who disagrees with them, is a facist, warmonger etc etc....

 

You simply can't resist making the "thick" jibes can you...another typical left wing attitude, they all do it when they know they have lost.

 

I suggest you read the posts correctly, if you want a reply.

 

Have you read them yet ? Or were you educated somewhere where they don't teach you too much. Like somewhere anti west..which is obviously what you are. I suggest you go and live in the middle east, if you are so prepared to encompass anti west attitudes.

 

Have you read the posts yet.

 

Have you read the posts yet ...... doh.

Edited June 9, 2006 by LeazesMag