adios 717 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Eunuch tbh 144058[/snapback] ? good reply 144060[/snapback] Best reply you've received yet, until someone suggests shooting... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChocChip 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I am somewhat amazed that in some people's eyes being a 'do gooder,' some one who does good things and wishes well on others is to be ridiculed in favour of an attitude of an ignorant, racist bigot. These kind of people are the true cowards, those who treat empathy and compassion as a weakness, those people who play soldier but whose arsehole is far too loose to actually risk any real confrontation, who try to associate themselves with those unfortunate enough to have been in battle purely to inflate their own sense of masculinity. 144036[/snapback] and how many people in the armed services, and their views, do you know ? 144057[/snapback] There was a phone-in on Radio 5 last night and all those who phoned in claiming to be in the British Armed Forces were pretty digusted at what is supposed to have taken place during this massacre Leazes. By the way, have you ever served in the armed forces? 144073[/snapback] Arsehole was too loose, fainted when he got near the recruiting office... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 44996 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Somebody should link this thread to Gunner Sergeant HTL. He'd be all over this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 didn't mean verbose I agreed ages ago that these soldiers should face trial... I agreed ages ago that this "war" is prepostorous I said that the world would have been better if Hussien had not stood fair trial and had simply been executed, I stand by that. I said that while these atrocities shouldn't happen, to get overly excited about it when they do, is to miss the bigger point and to lay blame at the wrong feet. I've never used the term do-gooder as an insult, but have been suggested to be a bigot. I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. Succint enough for ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. 144201[/snapback] Deserve it for that avatar, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Fairly succint and comprehensible. Much better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 (edited) didn't mean verbose I agreed ages ago that these soldiers should face trial... I agreed ages ago that this "war" is prepostorous I said that the world would have been better if Hussien had not stood fair trial and had simply been executed, I stand by that. I said that while these atrocities shouldn't happen, to get overly excited about it when they do, is to miss the bigger point and to lay blame at the wrong feet. I've never used the term do-gooder as an insult, but have been suggested to be a bigot. I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. Succint enough for ya? 144201[/snapback] I don't think we really do disagree GF, never thought we did in honesty. And for the record, I never called you a bigot either, you would know that if you bothered reading the thread properly. So ner ner. Edit: disagree about Hussein though, and I'm fairly certain you were pissed on that initial post. Edited June 2, 2006 by Renton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I was pissed... but I still stand by it now I'm sober just think that he cannot possibly face punishment that comes close to matching his crimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I was pissed... but I still stand by it now I'm sober just think that he cannot possibly face punishment that comes close to matching his crimes. 144206[/snapback] Neither can Bush tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I would imagine actually that Leazes is suggesting I am like "comical Ali", but is getting confused again. Mind, I don't see that comparison holds much water either, and yep, is pretty childish. 144070[/snapback] comical Renton ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I am somewhat amazed that in some people's eyes being a 'do gooder,' some one who does good things and wishes well on others is to be ridiculed in favour of an attitude of an ignorant, racist bigot. These kind of people are the true cowards, those who treat empathy and compassion as a weakness, those people who play soldier but whose arsehole is far too loose to actually risk any real confrontation, who try to associate themselves with those unfortunate enough to have been in battle purely to inflate their own sense of masculinity. 144036[/snapback] and how many people in the armed services, and their views, do you know ? 144057[/snapback] There was a phone-in on Radio 5 last night and all those who phoned in claiming to be in the British Armed Forces were pretty digusted at what is supposed to have taken place during this massacre Leazes. By the way, have you ever served in the armed forces? 144073[/snapback] Arsehole was too loose, fainted when he got near the recruiting office... 144099[/snapback] obviously a smart guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 didn't mean verbose I agreed ages ago that these soldiers should face trial... I agreed ages ago that this "war" is prepostorous I said that the world would have been better if Hussien had not stood fair trial and had simply been executed, I stand by that. I said that while these atrocities shouldn't happen, to get overly excited about it when they do, is to miss the bigger point and to lay blame at the wrong feet. I've never used the term do-gooder as an insult, but have been suggested to be a bigot. I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. Succint enough for ya? 144201[/snapback] biggest mistake was not shooting the cunt, and saying it was in self defence with no witnesses, at the end of the first one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 21643 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 didn't mean verbose I agreed ages ago that these soldiers should face trial... I agreed ages ago that this "war" is prepostorous I said that the world would have been better if Hussien had not stood fair trial and had simply been executed, I stand by that. I said that while these atrocities shouldn't happen, to get overly excited about it when they do, is to miss the bigger point and to lay blame at the wrong feet. I've never used the term do-gooder as an insult, but have been suggested to be a bigot. I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. Succint enough for ya? 144201[/snapback] biggest mistake was not shooting the cunt, and saying it was in self defence with no witnesses, at the end of the first one. 144222[/snapback] I wouldn't be that bothered about him being bumped off morally, in fact I wish he'd been assassinated 10 years ago, 20 even. However, making him a martyr now might not be a good thing. That is why he has been kept alive I suspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeazesMag 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 didn't mean verbose I agreed ages ago that these soldiers should face trial... I agreed ages ago that this "war" is prepostorous I said that the world would have been better if Hussien had not stood fair trial and had simply been executed, I stand by that. I said that while these atrocities shouldn't happen, to get overly excited about it when they do, is to miss the bigger point and to lay blame at the wrong feet. I've never used the term do-gooder as an insult, but have been suggested to be a bigot. I have been insulted, but that's par for the course. Succint enough for ya? 144201[/snapback] biggest mistake was not shooting the cunt, and saying it was in self defence with no witnesses, at the end of the first one. 144222[/snapback] I wouldn't be that bothered about him being bumped off morally, in fact I wish he'd been assassinated 10 years ago, 20 even. However, making him a martyr now might not be a good thing. That is why he has been kept alive I suspect. 144225[/snapback] I agree with that !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I was pissed... but I still stand by it now I'm sober just think that he cannot possibly face punishment that comes close to matching his crimes. 144206[/snapback] Neither can Bush tbh. 144209[/snapback] don't get me started on that warmonger... I'm trying to think of the best President that held office before Clinton... willing to bet it's another Democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 keeping him alive doesn't seem to be working either to be fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I'm trying to think of the best President that held office before Clinton... willing to bet it's another Democrat. 144241[/snapback] Probably the peanut farmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 I'm trying to think of the best President that held office before Clinton... willing to bet it's another Democrat. 144241[/snapback] Probably the peanut farmer. 144244[/snapback] Good ex-President, crap President tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Good ex-President, crap President tbh. 144253[/snapback] That says more about the country than the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 i'd like to ask everyone a question lets say that you are the LT in charge of a squad of men and one evening you meet this fella in the street. http://www.msnbc.com/news/945577.asp just like in the photo - the little guy raises his weapon and points it directly at you and your men. do you: 1) shoot at him straight away 2) hesitate for a few seconds heres the question which would be the easiest to live with 1) knowing that you shot and killed a bairn 2) knowing that your hesitation killed one or more of your men Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 (edited) Good ex-President, crap President tbh. 144253[/snapback] That says more about the country than the man. 144254[/snapback] Not necessarily. Carter got himself elected by displaying himself as an outsider to the political landscape--this was true, however due to that outsider situation, he didn't know how to get things done in that same political landscape. While that may say more about the political landscape than him, it doesn't make him a good president. IMO, if you want a good president you have to go back.... let's see. Bush I Reagan Carter Ford Nixon Johnson Kennedy Eisenhower Truman F. Roosevelt 10 presidents back to the 1930s. Damn. I suppose an argument could be made for Kennedy (D) Johnson (D) Eisenhower (R ) or even Nixon (R ) if you exclude the Watergate incidents and just focus on what he accomplished as a president. However, IMO if you want a truly great president, the last was was James K. Polk in the 1850s. Edited June 2, 2006 by Zathras Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10876 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 good question. wouldn't hesitate, the moment the weapon is raised the bearer has made him/herself a target IMO. to be fair if a kid raised a weapon the hesitation would also put my life in danger, not a risk I'm willing to take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zathras 244 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 i'd like to ask everyone a question lets say that you are the LT in charge of a squad of men and one evening you meet this fella in the street. http://www.msnbc.com/news/945577.asp just like in the photo - the little guy raises his weapon and points it directly at you and your men. do you: 1) shoot at him straight away 2) hesitate for a few seconds heres the question which would be the easiest to live with 1) knowing that you shot and killed a bairn 2) knowing that your hesitation killed one or more of your men 144261[/snapback] Someone who is an immediate threat? Given officer training, I would shoot immediately; as I am now, I would likely be unable to fire at all, let alone without hesitation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adios 717 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 Good ex-President, crap President tbh. 144253[/snapback] That says more about the country than the man. 144254[/snapback] While that may say more about the political landscape than him, it doesn't make him a good president. 144286[/snapback] We're basically saying the same thing, from different view-points. I don't know how you can go into any detail without even agreeing the boundaries of a good president. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted June 2, 2006 Share Posted June 2, 2006 i have to agree with what GF and zathras have said but - most soldiers are often under standing orders not to fire unless fired upon. its a chpice of either killing a child AND disobaying the rules of engagement (an incredibly serious offence) or losing one or more of your men and THEN killing a child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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