Lazarus 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Would we accept him bringing in a whole load of foreign players? i realise that the toon is no stranger to players from distant lands but look at arsenal and chelsea - didnt they field teams with no englishmen? how long until benitez does the same ? If, for example, hitzfeld had been appointed, how many german players would he have signed? I'm not saying roeder is an astute appointment and the man ive always wanted in charge cos he isnt and i didnt. Missed opportunity if you ask me. Maybe freddie doesnt want a spanish/french/german clique at the club, for whatever reason. Would the fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I want a team full of Geordies. Then a stadium full of Geordies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I can't imagine too many Arse, Chelski or Liverpool fans are complaining when they're picking up those trophys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I can't imagine too many Arse, Chelski or Liverpool fans are complaining when they're picking up those trophys. 138081[/snapback] no? i suspect there would be, especially at Liverpool if it wasnt for Carragher and Gerrard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matty 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I can't imagine too many Arse, Chelski or Liverpool fans are complaining when they're picking up those trophys. 138081[/snapback] no? i suspect there would be, especially at Liverpool if it wasnt for Carragher and Gerrard 138083[/snapback] Or Chelsea without Lampard, Terry, Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1207 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 I'd like to see us field home grown players. We should have an academy with the success that Boro are having at the moment. Im not saying that all their academy players are all good but theyve got some prospects out of them and they know what their home town club is about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Isn't there a rule coming in soon forcing clubs to field homegrown players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
khay 10 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Isn't there a rule coming in soon forcing clubs to field homegrown players? 138128[/snapback] I hard that too somewhere, at the time spurs where the only team that had enough players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 Isn't there a rule coming in soon forcing clubs to field homegrown players? 138128[/snapback] I hard that too somewhere, at the time spurs where the only team that had enough players. 138129[/snapback] its 4 homegrown players in a squad of 25 or something innit? a team could still field a foreign first 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
luckyluke 2 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Isn't there a rule coming in soon forcing clubs to field homegrown players? 138128[/snapback] I hard that too somewhere, at the time spurs where the only team that had enough players. 138129[/snapback] its 4 homegrown players in a squad of 25 or something innit? a team could still field a foreign first 11. 138132[/snapback] I think it's a bit more forceful than that, teams will actually have to field so many academy players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Lazaru 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 Isn't there a rule coming in soon forcing clubs to field homegrown players? 138128[/snapback] I hard that too somewhere, at the time spurs where the only team that had enough players. 138129[/snapback] its 4 homegrown players in a squad of 25 or something innit? a team could still field a foreign first 11. 138132[/snapback] I think it's a bit more forceful than that, teams will actually have to field so many academy players. 138137[/snapback] Arsenal, manu, chelsea will just field players stolen from other people's academies then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarus 0 Posted May 18, 2006 Author Share Posted May 18, 2006 http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/4233353.stm its euro competitions only at first and its 4 HGP in the squad of 25. domestic leagues have yet to be agreed. 6 HGP in 2007 8 HGP in 2008. basically - uefa want to develop homegrown talent but it'll just be poached. would i be right in thinking that next year zoggy would be classed as a homegrown player ? seems a bit pointless doesnt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 126 Posted May 18, 2006 Share Posted May 18, 2006 If Hitzfeld had taken over, Hargreaves would have been a cert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Kelly 1224 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I can't imagine too many Arse, Chelski or Liverpool fans are complaining when they're picking up those trophys. 138081[/snapback] no? i suspect there would be, especially at Liverpool if it wasnt for Carragher and Gerrard 138083[/snapback] Or Chelsea without Lampard, Terry, Cole. 138085[/snapback] While I'm sure both sets of fans (scousers more than the plastic cockeneys) like seeing english and especially local lads in the team, success is far more important. If we fielded a team full of escimo's I wouldn't give a fuck if they won us a trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I'd like 11 very good players in the side who play as a team. Sentiment has held us back, you've got to be ruthless to win things nowadays. Carragher and Gerrard are in the Liverpool side because they're excellent players, same with Lampard and Terry. If a foreign manager came here and brought in an excellent centre half who was better than Taylor then tough shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I'd like 11 very good players in the side who play as a team. Sentiment has held us back, you've got to be ruthless to win things nowadays. Carragher and Gerrard are in the Liverpool side because they're excellent players, same with Lampard and Terry. If a foreign manager came here and brought in an excellent centre half who was better than Taylor then tough shit. 138296[/snapback] Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 While I'm sure both sets of fans (scousers more than the plastic cockeneys) like seeing english and especially local lads in the team, success is far more important. If we fielded a team full of escimo's I wouldn't give a fuck if they won us a trophy. 138289[/snapback] Not wishing to start a London is better/worse than everywhere else row, but London is a very diverse place. (shocker! ) Most people who live there weren't born there and that's what makes it great. Anyone can go there and be themselves. The attitude that London looks down on everywhere else is not really the case....more that it doesn't care as it is both self contained and self obsessed. I like a lot about London and dislike almost as much, but I think the idea that Londoners have specific opinions about everywhere is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 126 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Even the Liverpool team of the 80s had only 1 or 2 Englishmen. Most were Irish, Scottish and had the odd Zimbabwian & Australian. Here's their team from the 1986 Cup Final. Grobellaar (Zimbabwe) Lawrenson (Ireland) Beglin (Ireland) Nicol (Scotland) Whelan (Ireland) Hansen (Scotland) Dalglish (Scotland) Johnston (Australia) Rush (Wales) Molby (Sweden?) MacDonald (Dunno) Edited May 19, 2006 by Optimistic Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catmag 336 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 I wouldn't give a flying fig if none of our players were English/Geordie etc. They'd still be OUR players, playing for OUR team and if they won something as part of OUR club then I wouldn't feel the slightest bit cheated if they won something. I'd rather have a team full of N'Zogbia's/Solano's than Chopra's if it meant we got our moment of glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Even the Liverpool team of the 80s had only 1 or 2 Englishmen. Most were Irish, Scottish and had the odd Zimbabwian & Australian. Here's their team from the 1986 Cup Final. Grobellaar (Zimbabwe) Lawrenson (Ireland) Beglin (Ireland) Nicol (Scotland) Whelan (Ireland) Hansen (Scotland) Dalglish (Scotland) Johnston (Australia) Rush (Wales) Molby (Sweden?) MacDonald (Dunno) 138339[/snapback] Molby's Danish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 126 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 (edited) Cheers, wasn't sure. And I agree with Catmag, if you want a team of English players, that's what international football is for. Club football is all about getting the best players, whether they be English, Italian, Chilean or Alien. Edited May 19, 2006 by Optimistic Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 89 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 yeah you are right. doesn't matter where a player is from, if they are any good they become Geordies (eg. pav, nobby, robledo?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Molby's Danish 138404[/snapback] Scouse last time I heard him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Molby's Danish 138404[/snapback] Schmichael's Doughnut... ....these are all my aliases you realise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asprilla 96 Posted May 19, 2006 Share Posted May 19, 2006 Every Londoner I've ever met has thought the north east was a god-awful dump and London the centre of the universe. 138627[/snapback] I did actually say that Londoners think that it's the centre of the universe...although, come to think of it....most people think that about where they live whether they realise it or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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