Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Eh? 130965[/snapback] If you're too much of a mong not to understand English I'm afraid I can't help you. 130968[/snapback] Having not seen your reply last night, or seen the relevance of your comment regarding my online status, that's pretty much the only reply which summed up what I wanted to say. Couch... good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] Better goalscorer, better passer, more vision, less selfish, more of a team player, better hair etc etc For fucks sake man, you can't actually "prove" an opinion. What makes your opinion right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] I never said he was. Lampard is more consistent though. Gerrard at his best (like the first half of this season) is awesome. Gerrard is more versatile too. I think Gerrard lets himself down sometimes when he plays (for England in particular) as he tries to play too many killer balls and gives possession away too cheaply. He gets away with it in the Premier League but against international teams you might have to wait 5 minutes to get the ball back when you give it away. I'm all for playing them both for England though with a Carrick type player sitting in. What's your view? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] Better goalscorer, better passer, more vision, less selfish, more of a team player, better hair etc etc For fucks sake man, you can't actually "prove" an opinion. What makes your opinion right? 130976[/snapback] Haha by your idiot logic no-one would be able to debate anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 (edited) Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] I never said he was. Lampard is more consistent though. Gerrard at his best (like the first half of this season) is awesome. Gerrard is more versatile too. I think Gerrard lets himself down sometimes when he plays (for England in particular) as he tries to play too many killer balls and gives possession away too cheaply. He gets away with it in the Premier League but against international teams you might have to wait 5 minutes to get the ball back when you give it away. I'm all for playing them both for England though with a Carrick type player sitting in. What's your view? 130978[/snapback] In my view to totally get the best out of either Lampard or Gerrard you can't afford to play them both in a 4 man midfield, you need, like you say, someone sitting in. But if England want to play a 4 man midfield, Lampard has to make way because in a similar role Gerrard is the better player. It's all very well saying Gerrard is shit for England but that is because he is burdened with the more holding role and given less freedom. Edited May 3, 2006 by Sima Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Sima detests Chelsea as much as Gol likes Lampard - there's never gonna be a winner in this one tbh Would be interesting to see how the argument would have transpired if Gerrard had signed for the blues though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Sima detests Chelsea as much as Gol likes Lampard - there's never gonna be a winner in this one tbh Would be interesting to see how the argument would have transpired if Gerrard had signed for the blues though... 130981[/snapback] Top class players like Gerrard don't sign for teams just for the money tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] I never said he was. Lampard is more consistent though. Gerrard at his best (like the first half of this season) is awesome. Gerrard is more versatile too. I think Gerrard lets himself down sometimes when he plays (for England in particular) as he tries to play too many killer balls and gives possession away too cheaply. He gets away with it in the Premier League but against international teams you might have to wait 5 minutes to get the ball back when you give it away. I'm all for playing them both for England though with a Carrick type player sitting in. What's your view? 130978[/snapback] In my view to totally get the best out of either Lampard or Gerrard you can't afford to play them both in a 4 man midfield, you need, like you say, someone sitting in. But if England want to play a 4 man midfield, Lampard has to make way because in a similar role Gerrard is the better player. It's all very well saying Gerrard is shit for England but that is because he is burdened with the more holding role and giving less freedom. 130980[/snapback] Then Sven should grow some fucking bollocks and drop one of them for someone more suited to the holding role. Interesting that you point out that it is Gerrard who has to conceed and play out of postion mind. Surely if Gerrard was the better player in that position, he'd get the nod? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] I never said he was. Lampard is more consistent though. Gerrard at his best (like the first half of this season) is awesome. Gerrard is more versatile too. I think Gerrard lets himself down sometimes when he plays (for England in particular) as he tries to play too many killer balls and gives possession away too cheaply. He gets away with it in the Premier League but against international teams you might have to wait 5 minutes to get the ball back when you give it away. I'm all for playing them both for England though with a Carrick type player sitting in. What's your view? 130978[/snapback] In my view to totally get the best out of either Lampard or Gerrard you can't afford to play them both in a 4 man midfield, you need, like you say, someone sitting in. But if England want to play a 4 man midfield, Lampard has to make way because in a similar role Gerrard is the better player. It's all very well saying Gerrard is shit for England but that is because he is burdened with the more holding role and given less freedom. 130980[/snapback] I'm not saying he is shit for England, I don't think that at all. Just think he does give the ball away too much. The other side of the coin is that when he sees a killer pass early he tries to play it and 2-3 times a match it will come off. If he could get the balance right he'd be unbelievably good. I quite like the idea of him playing either on the right or the left of a midfield diamond. I'd like to see him play right instead of Beckham in that formation but Sven would be far more likely to drop Cole. I actually think he will play both in a 4-4-2 though with Beckham and Cole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Noticed none of you have any reason why Lampard is better than Gerrard...... 130971[/snapback] Better goalscorer, better passer, more vision, less selfish, more of a team player, better hair etc etc For fucks sake man, you can't actually "prove" an opinion. What makes your opinion right? 130976[/snapback] Haha by your idiot logic no-one would be able to debate anything. 130979[/snapback] Debate??? Pretty certain all you've done so far in this thread is throw abuse and insults. You debate like a nine year old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Sima detests Chelsea as much as Gol likes Lampard - there's never gonna be a winner in this one tbh Would be interesting to see how the argument would have transpired if Gerrard had signed for the blues though... 130981[/snapback] Top class players like Gerrard don't sign for teams just for the money tbh. 130983[/snapback] So Owen isn't top class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Then Sven should grow some fucking bollocks and drop one of them for someone more suited to the holding role. Interesting that you point out that it is Gerrard who has to conceed and play out of postion mind. Surely if Gerrard was the better player in that position, he'd get the nod? 130984[/snapback] You're right, Sven should get some bollocks. I don't know how many people I have said it to, they both can't play in the centre of a four man midfield. Nah, the reason why Gerrard doesn't get the nod in the more attacking role is that Lampard is so inferior to Gerrard in the defensive aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Simply put; you cannot leave the best goalscoring midfielder in England out of the England team, especially with Rooney missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 So Owen isn't top class? 130988[/snapback] No, never said he was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Simply put; you cannot leave the best goalscoring midfielder in England out of the England team, especially with Rooney missing. 130990[/snapback] Rooney's absence gives you an option to play both, with a holding player behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 So Owen isn't top class? 130988[/snapback] No, never said he was. 130991[/snapback] Jesus wept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Nah, the reason why Gerrard doesn't get the nod in the more attacking role is that Lampard is so inferior to Gerrard in the defensive aspect.130989[/snapback] Bollocks! You play the best man in the position! There's no way Sven would compromise 2 midfield positions to get them in the team, it's bad enough he does it to one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Nah, the reason why Gerrard doesn't get the nod in the more attacking role is that Lampard is so inferior to Gerrard in the defensive aspect.130989[/snapback] Bollocks! You play the best man in the position! There's no way Sven would compromise 2 midfield positions to get them in the team, it's bad enough he does it to one! 130994[/snapback] He does though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 So Owen isn't top class? 130988[/snapback] No, never said he was. 130991[/snapback] Jesus wept! 130993[/snapback] Obviously your definition of top class differs from mine. To me "top class" = world class = being able to get into a world xi or make the bench. Then again, anyone that scores 5 goals a season to certain people is "world class" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 That's a pretty narrow definition of top class like. I'd definitely say Owen was top class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shearergol 0 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 So Owen isn't top class? 130988[/snapback] No, never said he was. 130991[/snapback] Jesus wept! 130993[/snapback] Obviously your definition of top class differs from mine. To me "top class" = world class = being able to get into a world xi or make the bench. Then again, anyone that scores 5 goals a season to certain people is "world class" 131002[/snapback] Would any English player other than Rooney be considered World class then? (in your opinion) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Rooney, Gerrard & Terry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6700 Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 Nah, the reason why Gerrard doesn't get the nod in the more attacking role is that Lampard is so inferior to Gerrard in the defensive aspect.130989[/snapback] Bollocks! You play the best man in the position! There's no way Sven would compromise 2 midfield positions to get them in the team, it's bad enough he does it to one! 130994[/snapback] He does though. 130999[/snapback] You're seriously telling me that he's clueless enough to play both his central midfielders out of position just get them in the team? Jesus fucking wept! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted May 3, 2006 Share Posted May 3, 2006 That's a pretty narrow definition of top class like. I'd definitely say Owen was top class. 131007[/snapback] Well, it is of course open to opinion, maybe top class should be seperate from world class? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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