England - Striking Options

[Guest Sima]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool. All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

[Shearergol 0]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool.  All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

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Don't need to show a quote, just watch them fucking play.

 

Before Kewell came back into the team Gerrard played on the left. Now Kewell is on form, they swap wings throughout the game.

 

EDIT:

 

"Gerrard is a very important player for us and played well. He played on the right, left and between the lines today"

 

[Guest Sima]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool.  All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

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Don't need to show a quote, just watch them fucking play.

 

Before Kewell came back into the team Gerrard played on the left. Now Kewell is on form, they swap wings throughout the game.

 

EDIT:

 

"Gerrard is a very important player for us and played well. He played on the right, left and between the lines today"

 

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That just means he was all over the pitch ffs, have you ever seen him play?

 

I'm just laughing about how you want to bump England's best midfielder out to the left

:blush: :o :( :D

[Shearergol 0]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool.  All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

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Don't need to show a quote, just watch them fucking play.

 

Before Kewell came back into the team Gerrard played on the left. Now Kewell is on form, they swap wings throughout the game.

 

EDIT:

 

"Gerrard is a very important player for us and played well. He played on the right, left and between the lines today"

 

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That just means he was all over the pitch ffs, have you ever seen him play?

 

I'm just laughing about how you want to bump England's best midfielder out to the left

:blush: :o :( :D

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I haven't. Lampard and Cole both through the middle. I said Gerrard on the left

[Guest Sima]

Hahaahahahaaa Lampard better than Gerrard. Now I know you're taking the piss

 

:blush: :o

[Bombadil 0]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool.  All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

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Don't need to show a quote, just watch them fucking play.

 

Before Kewell came back into the team Gerrard played on the left. Now Kewell is on form, they swap wings throughout the game.

 

EDIT:

 

"Gerrard is a very important player for us and played well. He played on the right, left and between the lines today"

 

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That just means he was all over the pitch ffs, have you ever seen him play?

 

I'm just laughing about how you want to bump England's best midfielder out to the left

:blush: :o :( :D

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I haven't. Lampard and Cole both through the middle. I said Gerrard on the left

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I agree about Lampard and I do think Gerrard is overrated, but Cole better than Gerrard? That's just your Chelsea bias.

[.../\......\o/... 0]

I'd take (if Owen isn't fit)

 

Ashton

Bent

Beattie

Crouch

Defoe

[Tom 14011]

T-Keith

Noel Fiedling

The cast of freinds....

 

Nah hold on..

 

Defoe

Owen

Crouch

Ashton

[Walliver 0]

IF we do play the 4-5-1 that someone suggested earlier, I think I'd prefer to see Lampard just behind the striker. He's a better scorer and it allows Gerrard to play his glorious through balls for Owen.

 

For the strikers, I'd take:

Owen

Crouch

Bent

Harewood

 

With these strikers, I reckon we can easily get through the group stages. If it's likely that Rooney will be fit for the rounds after that, take him. Drop Jenas.

[Shearergol 0]

Don't see anything in those two quotes that say Gerrard plays on the left for Liverpool.  All it does show is that Eriksson is completely clueless.

130243[/snapback]

 

Don't need to show a quote, just watch them fucking play.

 

Before Kewell came back into the team Gerrard played on the left. Now Kewell is on form, they swap wings throughout the game.

 

EDIT:

 

"Gerrard is a very important player for us and played well. He played on the right, left and between the lines today"

 

130244[/snapback]

 

That just means he was all over the pitch ffs, have you ever seen him play?

 

I'm just laughing about how you want to bump England's best midfielder out to the left

:blush: :o :( :D

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I haven't. Lampard and Cole both through the middle. I said Gerrard on the left

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I agree about Lampard and I do think Gerrard is overrated, but Cole better than Gerrard? That's just your Chelsea bias.

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Ok, it was kinda tongue in cheek, as Gerrard clearly is better than Cole. However, I think Cole is more important to England than Gerrard now Rooney is out.

 

Lampard is miles better than both though.

[sammynb 3342]

IF we do play the 4-5-1 that someone suggested earlier, I think I'd prefer to see Lampard just behind the striker.  He's a better scorer and it allows Gerrard to play his glorious through balls for Owen.

 

For the strikers, I'd take:

Owen

Crouch

Bent

Harewood

 

With these strikers, I reckon we can easily get through the group stages.  If it's likely that Rooney will be fit for the rounds after that, take him.  Drop Jenas.

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From a neutral point of view he'd be third choice after Owen and Rooney.

Is he not rated by people or is it because he comes from team that has just been promoted last season?

Personally I'd like to see him at Newcastle lining up next to Owen next season, it would be Shearer and Sir Les all over again.

[TheInspiration 1]

Why take Ashton or Beattie? Neither have scored in weeks.

 

As for the left-wing, Joe Ciole should really start, but they need cover, and that should be Stewart Downing. Eriksson only loves Richardson so much because he scored twice on his debut. Not because he's any good.

[Walliver 0]

For left midfield, why not Barry ? He's played there for donkeys for Villa and has the versatility to play in other positions (left back, centre back, central midfield) which is great to have on the bench. And he can (normally) take a decent penalty.

[Holden McGroin 6451]

Not a bad shout Walliver but just because he can play a variety of positions doesnt mean he is good enough.

 

Think he just lacks a little to be an international footballer.

[TheInspiration 1]

For left midfield, why not Barry ?  He's played there for donkeys for Villa and has the versatility to play in other positions (left back, centre back, central midfield) which is great to have on the bench.  And he can (normally) take a decent penalty.

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Tbf, easily a better left-back than Konchesky and Warnock. Edited May 2, 2006 by TheInspiration

[Walliver 0]

Not a bad shout Walliver but just because he can play a variety of positions doesnt mean he is good enough. 

 

Think he just lacks a little to be an international footballer.

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As it stands, Joe Cole is likely to play on the left every game. Downing, Etherington or whoever else goes to Germany will only be there as back up. These players aren't really proven internationals either. I reckon it makes sense, if someone's going along as cover, they should be able to cover more than one place. Sort of like an upgrade on Phil Neville.

[Guest CrimsonFault]

Not a bad shout Walliver but just because he can play a variety of positions doesnt mean he is good enough. 

 

Think he just lacks a little to be an international footballer.

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As it stands, Joe Cole is likely to play on the left every game. Downing, Etherington or whoever else goes to Germany will only be there as back up. These players aren't really proven internationals either. I reckon it makes sense, if someone's going along as cover, they should be able to cover more than one place. Sort of like an upgrade on Phil Neville.

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More trophies than Shearer

[Shearergol 0]

Alan Hansen's view:

"Personally, I think the answer is to play Joe Cole just off Owen and move Gerrard to the left, giving him a remit to roam. Beckham can stay on the right, with Lampard in the middle alongside a holding player, maybe Carrick or Ledley King, if he's fit."

 

The bastard has been reading my posts

[LeazesMag 0]

I think he should play Cole in Rooneys role now. Meaning he needs someone to play left. Its too late to experiment, so I would bring Downing in, to actually start [if Rooney doesn't go]

 

Other strikers Defoe [nr 2 to Owen, direct replacment if needed], Crouch, Beattie or Ashton simply to change the system if there is a need to at some stage.

 

If there is a doubt about the fitness of both Owen and Rooney lasting the tournament, he cannott afford to take both of them.

 

There is no point in Eriksson sitting back in this competition if we fall behind or not changing anything if we aren't playing well.

 

He has to go for this. He has a natural serie A type mentality in certain situations.

The game against Brazil where we sat back 2-1 down against 10 men, took a forward off for a forward and had one shot in the last half hour....I'd have sacked him for that.

Edited May 4, 2006 by LeazesMag

[geordieshandy 0]

Alan Hansen's view:

"Personally, I think the answer is to play Joe Cole just off Owen and move Gerrard to the left, giving him a remit to roam. Beckham can stay on the right, with Lampard in the middle alongside a holding player, maybe Carrick or Ledley King, if he's fit."

 

The bastard has been reading my posts

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Yeah, tough choice.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

I think he should play Cole in Rooneys role now. Meaning he needs someone to play left. Its too late to experiment, so I would bring Downing in, to actually start [if Rooney doesn't go]

 

Other strikers Defoe [nr 2 to Owen, direct replacment if needed], Crouch, Beattie or Ashton simply to change the system if there is a need to at some stage.

 

If there is a doubt about the fitness of both Owen and Rooney lasting the tournament, he cannott afford to take both of them.

 

There is no point in Eriksson sitting back in this competition if we fall behind or not changing anything if we aren't playing well.

 

He has to go for this. He has a natural serie A type mentality in certain situations.

The game against Brazil where we sat back 2-1 down against 10 men, took a forward off for a forward and had one shot in the last half hour....I'd have sacked him for that.

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I see your point Leazes, but for me a midfield of Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard and Downing simply doesn't offer the defence enough protection against world-class sides.

The only positive I can take out of the Rooney situation is that we might see a player like Carrick or Ledley King (if fit) employed in the holding role. This would free up Lampard and Gerrard to play to their full potential.

[Brock Manson 0]

How long before James Morrisson gets a call-up...

[LeazesMag 0]

I think he should play Cole in Rooneys role now. Meaning he needs someone to play left. Its too late to experiment, so I would bring Downing in, to actually start [if Rooney doesn't go]

 

Other strikers Defoe [nr 2 to Owen, direct replacment if needed], Crouch, Beattie or Ashton simply to change the system if there is a need to at some stage.

 

If there is a doubt about the fitness of both Owen and Rooney lasting the tournament, he cannott afford to take both of them.

 

There is no point in Eriksson sitting back in this competition if we fall behind or not changing anything if we aren't playing well.

 

He has to go for this. He has a natural serie A type mentality in certain situations.

The game against Brazil where we sat back 2-1 down against 10 men, took a forward off for a forward and had one shot in the last half hour....I'd have sacked him for that.

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I see your point Leazes, but for me a midfield of Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard and Downing simply doesn't offer the defence enough protection against world-class sides.

The only positive I can take out of the Rooney situation is that we might see a player like Carrick or Ledley King (if fit) employed in the holding role. This would free up Lampard and Gerrard to play to their full potential.

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It's our best midfield. Play to your strengths. I also see your point about protecting the defence, but if you play Carrick it means Gerrard or Lampard isn't in their best position either.

 

The obvious conclusion is to play either Lampard or Gerrard, alongside Carrick. These decisions have to be made sometimes, if you want to take the cat and mouse tactical approach. It's a different shape midfield, so who would you choose between the two of them ? I know who I would prefer.

 

Remember that if Joe Cole does play as a deep striker, you could also say he's a central atttacking midfield player, so Carrick, Lampard/Gerrard, Cole...Beckham on one side, Downing on the other, Owen up front seems a fairly well balanced midfield to me on its own merits, so I think if you want to play a "sitting" player, you must choose between Lampard and Gerrard.

Edited May 4, 2006 by LeazesMag

[janu 0]

I think he should play Cole in Rooneys role now. Meaning he needs someone to play left. Its too late to experiment, so I would bring Downing in, to actually start [if Rooney doesn't go]

 

Other strikers Defoe [nr 2 to Owen, direct replacment if needed], Crouch, Beattie or Ashton simply to change the system if there is a need to at some stage.

 

If there is a doubt about the fitness of both Owen and Rooney lasting the tournament, he cannott afford to take both of them.

 

There is no point in Eriksson sitting back in this competition if we fall behind or not changing anything if we aren't playing well.

 

He has to go for this. He has a natural serie A type mentality in certain situations.

The game against Brazil where we sat back 2-1 down against 10 men, took a forward off for a forward and had one shot in the last half hour....I'd have sacked him for that.

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I see your point Leazes, but for me a midfield of Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard and Downing simply doesn't offer the defence enough protection against world-class sides.

The only positive I can take out of the Rooney situation is that we might see a player like Carrick or Ledley King (if fit) employed in the holding role. This would free up Lampard and Gerrard to play to their full potential.

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I think you're right Doc

Sure it's a major blow that Rooney is out, but it could turn out to be a blessing in disguise... IMO Gerrard would be excellent in the Rooney-position just behind Owen. With Carrick and Lampard in the centre mid, Cole on the left and Beckham on the right, the midfield would be strong and have a very good balance.

[Dr Kenneth Noisewater 0]

I think he should play Cole in Rooneys role now. Meaning he needs someone to play left. Its too late to experiment, so I would bring Downing in, to actually start [if Rooney doesn't go]

 

Other strikers Defoe [nr 2 to Owen, direct replacment if needed], Crouch, Beattie or Ashton simply to change the system if there is a need to at some stage.

 

If there is a doubt about the fitness of both Owen and Rooney lasting the tournament, he cannott afford to take both of them.

 

There is no point in Eriksson sitting back in this competition if we fall behind or not changing anything if we aren't playing well.

 

He has to go for this. He has a natural serie A type mentality in certain situations.

The game against Brazil where we sat back 2-1 down against 10 men, took a forward off for a forward and had one shot in the last half hour....I'd have sacked him for that.

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I see your point Leazes, but for me a midfield of Beckham, Gerrard, Lampard and Downing simply doesn't offer the defence enough protection against world-class sides.

The only positive I can take out of the Rooney situation is that we might see a player like Carrick or Ledley King (if fit) employed in the holding role. This would free up Lampard and Gerrard to play to their full potential.

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I think you're right Doc

Sure it's a major blow that Rooney is out, but it could turn out to be a blessing in disguise... IMO Gerrard would be excellent in the Rooney-position just behind Owen. With Carrick and Lampard in the centre mid, Cole on the left and Beckham on the right, the midfield would be strong and have a very good balance.

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Yep, thats exactly what I would do.

 

It's up to the Swede now to show us why he's worth £5million a year.