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5 hours ago, spongebob toonpants said:

Also all that mod union jack stuff really fucked me off, and the majority of their fans (at the time in my opinion) were sheep

I was still really a nipper, but I fucking hated the Jam because I shared a room with my older brother, who was bang in to them. 
He’d come in, take my AC/DC off the record player, and put the fucking Jam on 

 

Any argument resulted in a mild chinning. :lol:
 

Our bedroom was like Brighton Beach in tbe 60s, my half was all Rock, biker jackets and Converse baseball boots, his was The fucking Jam, trousers with creases, and parkas. 
 

After hating/beating the shite of each other for our formative years, we did eventually become the very best of friends, even largely sharing musical tastes now. :lol:

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The Clash were much better imo. I do like some of their stuff but I was a bit young when they were at their peak. Wella’s a funny one for me. I love the odd thing he’s done but don’t see the hype with most of his stuff. And the hardcore devotees who still consider him to be some sort of god? ‘Sheep’ nails it. 
It’s a bit like with the Mod movement. Some of the aesthetic is great. But the ones fully emerged in it, especially the older ones are more than a bit having breakfast in Spoons telling it like it is. The look looks fucking daft when it’s observed to the nth degree too. Especially as most of them are too old to pull it off 

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33 minutes ago, Alex said:

The Clash were much better imo. I do like some of their stuff but I was a bit young when they were at their peak. Wella’s a funny one for me. I love the odd thing he’s done but don’t see the hype with most of his stuff. And the hardcore devotees who still consider him to be some sort of god? ‘Sheep’ nails it. 
It’s a bit like with the Mod movement. Some of the aesthetic is great. But the ones fully emerged in it, especially the older ones are more than a bit having breakfast in Spoons telling it like it is. The look looks fucking daft when it’s observed to the nth degree too. Especially as most of them are too old to pull it off 

And as the mighty Chart Music say, all WellerDads voted for brexit

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I think the Jam (and the Specials) were the first two bands that I properly became obsessed with as a kid. I’ve gone in and out with Weller over the years, wasn’t fussed about seeing him earlier this year but the missus said she’d like to go and it was only 10 mins down the road so we did and it turned out to be a really good night. All the Farage/Weller dads were there and I hope they enjoyed the Palestinian flag he had draped over his amp. Say what you want about his music but his principles have remained intact to a much larger extent than any of his peers. That fuckin prick Lydon supported Brexit ffs.. 

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I like some of what Mr. Weller has done, musically, but I hold him entirely responsible for every single bloke who still sports the absolute tonsorial abortion that is…

 

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2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

That fuckin prick Lydon supported Brexit ffs.. 

I have never liked him, or anything he’s done musically,or otherwise, since the Pistols, and even that was a wind up. 
 

 

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2 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I have never liked him, or anything he’s done musically,or otherwise, since the Pistols, and even that was a wind up. 
 

 


Weeeelllll… I was too young for the pistols but PIL were another early obsession. Thing about them is Lydon was dragged along by some utterly brilliant musicians in PIL and I think most of what they’ve done really stands up to this day. Am toying with seeing them in May because this will probably be the last chance to see them play these songs. Individually their bassist Jah Wobble is just about my favourite live act. His gigs are an astounding sonic experience….this is a pretty straight take on my favourite film soundtrack, it’s just fuckin brilliant…

 

 

 

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Aye, I agree PIL had some solid muscle in the band itself, but I cannot bear Lydon, his voice is like nails on a blackboard to me. 
 

Leftism is one of favourite albums form the early 90s, but I always, without fail, skip the track on it with Lydon screeching over it. :lol:
 

That video btw, excellent- both the choice of song and Mr. Wobble. 

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Just now, Monkeys Fist said:

Aye, I agree PIL had some solid muscle in the band itself, but I cannot bear Lydon, his voice is like nails on a blackboard to me. 
 

Leftism is one of favourite albums form the early 90s, but I always, without fail, skip the track on it with Lydon screeching over it. :lol:
 

That video btw, excellent- both the choice of song and Mr. Wobble. 


Yeah mate if Wobble is up the Cluny or somewhere I’d definitely recommend, his band are great, the drummer is phenomenal 👍

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37 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I like some of what Mr. Weller has done, musically, but I hold him entirely responsible for every single bloke who still sports the absolute tonsorial abortion that is…

 

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I can’t take a middle aged man with that haircut seriously. It looked shit when you were young ffs  

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Jah Wobble is a great bassist. Seems like a decent fella too. 
Somehow being able to put his own unique style of funky dubby baselines on tunes by artists as diverse as Bjork, Sinead O’Connor and The Orb

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I’d always assumed his name was some mysterious reference to Rastafari and whatever, and when I found out the actual origin of it a few years ago I genuinely laughed out loud- Sid Vicious was too fucked to pronounce his real name “John Wardle” and Jah Wobble was born :lol:

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18 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I’d always assumed his name was some mysterious reference to Rastafari and whatever, and when I found out the actual origin of it a few years ago I genuinely laughed out loud- Sid Vicious was too fucked to pronounce his real name “John Wardle” and Jah Wobble was born :lol:

:lol: I knew that. Must’ve been in some article I read ages ago. Although the spelling of ‘Jah’ obviously references Rastafarianism 

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A lot of my idols turned out to be wankers, none more so than Morrissey king of incels. Not gonna stop me enjoying their music. Lyrically the Jam are hard to touch. I don't remember mods being nationalistic back in the 70s and 80s, but admit some of the old timers now are more like that. 

 

Also, peer pressure is so immense at that age that most people into musical genres become sheep, definitely not just a mod thing. 

 

Finally, personally I can still happily listen to the Jam today thanks to the lyrics. The specials too. Can't say the same about the Clash in my case. Oh aye, and talking of peer pressure, Quadrophenia nailed it and I would have fucking loved to have nailed Lesley Ash. 

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I can’t really listen to the smiths anymore. I like sone songs musically, because of Marr mainly, but I couldn’t take Morrissey’s lyrics seriously once I got beyond teen angst and discovered the joys of MDMA. Nowt to do with his politics or terminal misanthropy at the time. Although that obviously makes me  now realise what a sad cunt he is. Also liked the point Taylor Parkes made that he never wrote a decent lyric once he stopped using his pre-fame notebooks, etc. See Bigmouth Strikes Again 

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10 minutes ago, Renton said:

A lot of my idols turned out to be wankers, none more so than Morrissey king of incels. Not gonna stop me enjoying their music. Lyrically the Jam are hard to touch. I don't remember mods being nationalistic back in the 70s and 80s, but admit some of the old timers now are more like that. 

 

Also, peer pressure is so immense at that age that most people into musical genres become sheep, definitely not just a mod thing. 

 

Finally, personally I can still happily listen to the Jam today thanks to the lyrics. The specials too. Can't say the same about the Clash in my case. Oh aye, and talking of peer pressure, Quadrophenia nailed it and I would have fucking loved to have nailed Lesley Ash. 


Between the ages of 18-22 Weller wrote some lyrics which, for his age, class and education, are fucking astounding 👍

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20 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

Strummer fans! £1200 gets you one of these, complete with accurate "relic" job. 

 

 

Better to just buy a telecaster and play the shit out of it than pay for a pro relic finish, imho.

 

As for the Weller/Strummer discussion. Joe wins, Weller did some great stuff but in general is a bit of a cunt. Joe towards the end had lost his voice and moved back to his pre-clash folk/skiffle, whereas Weller has been lucky with his voice and has never really strayed to far from his mod/soul roots.

But you just know who you would rather have a beer with.

 

Lydon is an even bigger cunt that, like Morrisey, you'd love to punch if you had the chance, and remind them, where they came from.

PiL are amazing, as for reason stated above, Lydon just happened to be the lucky one to do their vocals.

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Mrs. Fist this morning,

” We need a new door for the bathroom cabinet, from IKEA”

 

*shudders. 
 

 

From parking at the Hell Shop, in, ordered, out, collected. 
 

35 minutes*
 

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* only possible as I engineered a solo trip. 

 

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25 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

Mrs. Fist this morning,

” We need a new door for the bathroom cabinet, from IKEA”

 

*shudders. 
 

 

From parking at the Hell Shop, in, ordered, out, collected. 
 

35 minutes*
 

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* only possible as I engineered a solo trip. 

 

 

35 minutes? You clearly have not learned of the ikea shortcut doors. I could have shortened that solo visit down to 8 minutes, tops.

 

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6 minutes ago, Dazzler said:

8 minutes, tops.

 

:lol:
Shite. 
 

Used two of available three shortcuts - entrance, 1st shortcut to said door dept, short hop to next shortcut to Market Hall (bait cabins), thru fire exit next to the lifts, past the tills, out to the car and up to the Collection Point. 
Actual time in the shop was 15-20 minutes max, including time spent fucking on looking for staff to check stock/order/pay. 
Add on time getting a response at the collection point, and loading, 35 minutes is top bombing. 
 

Don’t be bringing your swinging bollocks to a Fist fight :lol:

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49 minutes ago, RobinRobin said:

Over It Wow GIF by The Comeback HBO

Why, in the name of the deep blue sea, would you ever choose to trek into the Swedish hellscape when you could just click & collect?

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