General Random Conversation..

[wykikitoon 23334]

I don't know what industry you work in Fish, but Consultant engineering is NOT the place for people managers  

There are processes to go though to improve people or put them on warnings etc and its very rarely done as the engineers in management are just not trained to do it.  My wfie works in finance and she's had the training for this and it does run better.

[Howmanheyman 37157]

4 minutes ago, The Fish said:

 

I've a mate in a similar position, except the problem person reports into him. He wants shot of the bloke, other team members want shot of him, but the word from on high is that it'd be too much of a cost to fire him. Nothing the bloke has done is gross misconduct or negligence, he's just good enough to not get fired.

 

My mate is trying to get him a move sideways to another department, let him be their problem. Either that or promote him, put this bloke in a position to get himself fired.

 

When I was at the Tyne brewery there was a bloke who'd been there for thirty odd years called 'new kid' as he always got shunted from department to department, shift to shift. (canny bloke but treated doing anything like he was Ronnie Corbett doing his solo sketch in the big black chair). 

[The Fish 11344]

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

I don't know what industry you work in Fish, but Consultant engineering is NOT the place for people managers  

There are processes to go though to improve people or put them on warnings etc and its very rarely done as the engineers in management are just not trained to do it.  My wfie works in finance and she's had the training for this and it does run better.

I work for a telecoms company, but the lad I'm talking about works in energy. There are Personal Improvement Plans, and endless HR conversations apparently. The bloke might be useless, and a bit of a petty politician, but like I said, he's delivering just enough to avoid all that.

[Renton 24199]

51 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

A mate is having an issue at work with a lad. 

 

I can't be the only one that sees a post like this started by wykiki and thinks.....

 

Edited August 13, 2024 by Renton

[Holden McGroin 7764]

17 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

I can't be the only one that sees a post like this started by wykiki and thinks.....

 

I think he mistakenly posted his gossip based grievance to a Newcastle forum rather than a Teams Chat.

 

These things always used to happen around the water dispenser. I blame Covid.

Edited August 13, 2024 by Holden McGroin

[Renton 24199]

Just now, Holden McGroin said:

I think he mistakenly posted his gossip based grievance to a Newcastle forum rather than a Teams Chat

 

Yeah, well, you should have seen what happened at my work when I mistakenly put a post intended for here into my work team chat.

That reminds me, does anyone know any good employment solicitors? 

[wykikitoon 23334]

10 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I think he mistakenly posted his gossip based grievance to a Newcastle forum rather than a Teams Chat.

 

These things always used to happen around the water dispenser. I blame Covid.

You mean the tap?

YANK boy

[Holden McGroin 7764]

 

5 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

You mean the tap?

YANK boy

I was going to use the old ‘Water Cooler’ but then I thought I’d open it up to the posher officers. I used to have hot, cold or sparkling on tap. It would reduce gossip time because of no kettle boiling. 

 

[The Fish 11344]

51 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

I can't be the only one that sees a post like this started by wykiki and thinks.....

 

Nah I'm thinking;

 

[PaddockLad 19331]

Anyone use Chrome as their mobile  browser? When you open a new box you get random news articles to click on?… this popped up on mine. This lies a couple of miles from where I was brought up. Local apocryphal local legend has it that at some point in history the Scott clan were laying siege to the Kerr’s within. A paige was sent in with some demands and the Kerrs were so hungry that they ate him  

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/gallery/spooky-abandoned-scottish-castle-near-33429334.amp

 

 

[Monkeys Fist 45838]

3 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

A paige was sent in with some demands and the Kerrs were so hungry that they ate him  

According to the Daily Record article, they had a “proper sit-down meal” 

[RobinRobin 12671]

3 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

Anyone use Chrome as their mobile  browser? When you open a new box you get random news articles to click on?… this popped up on mine. This lies a couple of miles from where I was brought up. Local apocryphal local legend has it that at some point in history the Scott clan were laying siege to the Kerr’s within. A paige was sent in with some demands and the Kerrs were so hungry that they ate him  

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/scotland-now/gallery/spooky-abandoned-scottish-castle-near-33429334.amp

 

 

[Howmanheyman 37157]

I thought this was interesting.....

 

 

 

Where were you? 

Where were you?

Where were you in 1377?

Where were you in 1377?

 

 

[RobinRobin 12671]

8 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

I thought this was interesting.....

 

 

 

Where were you? 

Where were you?

Where were you in 1377?

Where were you in 1377?

 

 

I'll leave this one to @Toonpack  

[Howmanheyman 37157]

The absolute comedy gold the MLFs churn out on a regular basis yet it's been a while since I've seen a post by @Howay with plenty of s scattered around. Hope he's/you're alright, mate?

[Renton 24199]

14 hours ago, Howmanheyman said:

I thought this was interesting.....

 

 

 

Where were you? 

Where were you?

Where were you in 1377?

Where were you in 1377?

 

 

 

Sure Newcastle became a "top 5" city in later medieval times. Working in the centre twice a week and trying to stay fit I do go for some quite long wanders though the city. The beautiful hidden architecture is everywhere. Far better than most large industrial cities like Leeds, Sheffield, Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, just by virtue we are older. We're more a poor man's Edinburgh. 

Sunderland in comparison is just an industrial town, peaking late 19th early 20th century, with almost no notable architecture at all. This isn't having a go, it 's just a statement of fact. If you look at any of their videos about how great e.g. Keel square is, it's like, erm...., naah, hardly a destination location. Why they feel the need to compete with Newcastle (outside of football), with stupid incorrect statements like "Sunderland is the largest English city North of Leeds", is an odd one. I don't see Bolton competing with Manchester or St Helens with Liverpool. Instead of competing and failing, it would be better for them and the whole region if they worked to complement the rest of Tyneside and Wearside. Reading the SMB it will never happen though. They are ridiculously insular. 

[The Fish 11344]

11 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Sure Newcastle became a "top 5" city in later medieval times. Working in the centre twice a week and trying to stay fit I do go for some quite long wanders though the city. The beautiful hidden architecture is everywhere. Far better than most large industrial cities like Leeds, Sheffield, Glasgow, Manchester and Liverpool, just by virtue we are older. We're more a poor man's Edinburgh. 

Sunderland in comparison is just an industrial town, peaking late 19th early 20th century, with almost no notable architecture at all. This isn't having a go, it 's just a statement of fact. If you look at any of their videos about how great e.g. Keel square is, it's like, erm...., naah, hardly a destination location. Why they feel the need to compete with Newcastle (outside of football), with stupid incorrect statements like "Sunderland is the largest English city North of Leeds", is an odd one. I don't see Bolton competing with Manchester or St Helens with Liverpool. Instead of competing and failing, it would be better for them and the whole region if they worked to complement the rest of Tyneside and Wearside. Reading the SMB it will never happen though. They are ridiculously insular. 

You've forgotten about how beautiful parts of County Durham are, and how grimy parts of Newcastle are. Therefore your reasoned argument is wrong.

[Alex 37287]

I’ll see if I can find a link to it but there’s a German made map from about 1630 of Britain and Ireland. As well as Newcastle and Durham it features places like Hartlepool, Hexham and even Keswick, Appleby and Ambleside. Yet despite their famously fighting against Newcastle in the imminent English Civil War, there doesn’t seem to be any sign of Sunderland. 

[Alex 37287]

There:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/3/39/1631_Blaeu_Map_of_the_British_Isles_(England%2C_Scotland%2C_Ireland)_-_Geographicus_-_BritanniaeHiberniae-blaeu-1631.jpg

Edited August 16, 2024 by Alex

[Renton 24199]

14 minutes ago, The Fish said:

You've forgotten about how beautiful parts of County Durham are, and how grimy parts of Newcastle are. Therefore your reasoned argument is wrong.

 

Yeah, that's the usual response. Apparently yes, yes, Newcastle city centre is better than Sunderland but their suburbs are much nicer. Apart from Newcastle city centre, all you have is the likes of Scotswood, Fenham, Cowgate, and Byker. Whereas they have, erm, Ashbrook and Seaburn. 

Firstly, those two Sunderland suburbs are no great shakes, I have been there. Secondly, I actually don't think Byker and many areas of the West End are that bad (don't really know it that well tbh). Thirdly, they seem to have forgotten about Jesmond, West Jesmond, Gosforth, Spital Tongues, Heaton/Sandyford (up and coming), and Benton etc,  not to mention areas of North Tyneside like Tynemouth, Whitley Bay, Monkseaton, even places like Preston or the fish quay. Also nice areas of Gateshead and South Tyneside. The proof is in the pudding ultimately, with house prices being substantially more in Tyneside than Wearside. If these places in Sunderland are really so nice, why are they so cheap? Incidentally you can buy a penthouse flat in Sunderland city centre for £70k and a normal 2 bed one for less than half that! 

Edited August 16, 2024 by Renton

[Toonpack 11811]

It’s a bit of a reach calling a terraced house loft conversion a penthouse mind.

[Renton 24199]

5 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

It’s a bit of a reach calling a terraced house loft conversion a penthouse mind.

 

Well, its in this building by the river. Probably near half a million in the Newcastle equivalent? I'd be tempted to buy it as an investment but then I remember its in Sunderland.

 

[Monkeys Fist 45838]

1 minute ago, Renton said:

 

Well, its in this building by the river. Probably near half a million in the Newcastle equivalent? I'd be tempted to buy it as an investment but then I remember its in Sunderland.

 

If it had a helipad on the roof you could fly in and out without ever actually setting foot in sunderland, but you’d still have the smell to deal with, and the burning shame whenever you had to give your address. 

[ewerk 33651]

Yeah but look at that view of the river where they used to make the boats.

[Gemmill 51220]

41 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Yeah, that's the usual response. Apparently yes, yes, Newcastle city centre is better than Sunderland but their suburbs are much nicer. Apart from Newcastle city centre, all you have is the likes of Scotswood, Fenham, Cowgate, and Byker. Whereas they have, erm, Ashbrook and Seaburn. 

Firstly, those two Sunderland suburbs are no great shakes, I have been there. Secondly, I actually don't think Byker and many areas of the West End are that bad (don't really know it that well tbh). Thirdly, they seem to have forgotten about Jesmond, West Jesmond, Gosforth, Spital Tongues, Heaton/Sandyford (up and coming), and Benton etc,  not to mention areas of North Tyneside like Tynemouth, Whitley Bay, Monkseaton, even places like Preston or the fish quay. Also nice areas of Gateshead and South Tyneside. The proof is in the pudding ultimately, with house prices being substantially more in Tyneside than Wearside. If these places in Sunderland are really so nice, why are they so cheap? Incidentally you can buy a penthouse flat in Sunderland city centre for £70k and a normal 2 bed one for less than half that! 

 

Don't forget about North Gosforth, formerly Wideopen.