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[trophyshy 7484]

[Christmas Tree 5220]

So fucking depressing all these videos. Utter scum.

[Renton 24199]

20 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

He's coming for the Muslims. This is how quickly they can turn. 

 

Very funny. Just don't know how they can identify these scum bags to door knock them. Perhaps ask Amazon and eBay for their data on who's been buying masks and balaclavas the past few days. 

[wackyjunior 40]

Brexit should have taught us not to ignore people on this issue. 

[wykikitoon 23308]

[Gemmill 51204]

12 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Very funny. Just don't know how they can identify these scum bags to door knock them. Perhaps ask Amazon and eBay for their data on who's been buying masks and balaclavas the past few days. 

 

They're tracking phone locations and all sorts. They'll all be texting one another, so once you lift a couple of them they'll be able to get more from checking their phones. 

 

Yes I watch 24 Hours in Police Custody. 

[Holden McGroin 7760]

15 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

Yes I watch 24 Hours in Police Custody. 

I would have a put a lot of money on that 

[Gemmill 51204]

 

 

The always-shit Brendan Clarke-Smith showing why he should never have been an MP or a teacher. 

 

 

[Gemmill 51204]

6 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

I would have a put a lot of money on that 

 

I would have put a lot of money on you putting a lot of money on that. 

[Gemmill 51204]

 

 

Eeee that's wor Leanne! 

 

 

[wackyjunior 40]

What age is the boy/man cutoff?

[strawb 4671]

3 hours ago, Renton said:

Boro scum, smashing up normal people's cars and houses. I thought this place had benefitted from Houchen's pork barreling too? 

I think covering your face in public needs to be made an arrestible offence too. 

 

 

 

That’s just off parliament road, used to be class butty shop there. Ran by Italian immigrants but none of them jobless smooth brains would know anything about the real boro. 
 

We had a massive docks, steel working and shipping industry which brought in goods and people from across the world, like my ancestors. It’s a real fucking shame to see a town that I know has decent people in it being dragged down by knuckle draggers. Honestly hit me harder than I thought this. 

[RobinRobin 12668]

6 hours ago, wackyjunior said:

What age is the boy/man cutoff?

18

[Monkeys Fist 45836]

6 hours ago, strawb said:

That’s just off parliament road, used to be class butty shop there. Ran by Italian immigrants but none of them jobless smooth brains would know anything about the real boro. 
 

We had a massive docks, steel working and shipping industry which brought in goods and people from across the world, like my ancestors. It’s a real fucking shame to see a town that I know has decent people in it being dragged down by knuckle draggers. Honestly hit me harder than I thought this. 

Aye, it’s rotten when your hometown is depicted in a bad light in the national media, especially when you’re away from it. 
 

I drove past Boro this morning at 5:00am and there was a pall of smoke in the air, and the acrid smell of burning petrol, strong enough to taste a day or so later, so at least it hasn’t taken long to get back to normal. 
 

 

Giddup! 
 

[Toonpack 11802]

10 hours ago, wackyjunior said:

Brexit should have taught us not to ignore people on this issue. 

If the previous government hadn't made a non-issue into an issue (by design) there wouldn't be any problems (same can be said of Brexit).

[Monkeys Fist 45836]

7 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

If the previous government hadn't made a non-issue into an issue (by design), whilst also spouting right-wing rhetoric , there wouldn't be any problems (same can be said of Brexit).

Braverman, Patel, Badenoch, etc etc’d YP

[wykikitoon 23308]

https://www.instagram.com/p/C-QmdNnI1W8/?igsh=MXZla3dmcGRxMXVtMw==

 

 

[wykikitoon 23308]

7 hours ago, strawb said:

That’s just off parliament road, used to be class butty shop there. Ran by Italian immigrants but none of them jobless smooth brains would know anything about the real boro. 
 

We had a massive docks, steel working and shipping industry which brought in goods and people from across the world, like my ancestors. It’s a real fucking shame to see a town that I know has decent people in it being dragged down by knuckle draggers. Honestly hit me harder than I thought this. 

A lad I work with is from Boro. We were talking about this the other day. He joined the Navy when he first left school to see some of the world and get a trade and planned to get a job in one of the plants when he finished. When he finished they were all shutting down and no fucking jobs. 

[Renton 24199]

12 hours ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

The always-shit Brendan Clarke-Smith showing why he should never have been an MP or a teacher. 

 

 

 

Just read this. What a fucking disgusting tweet. Joking about arson, then making ridiculous partisan comments about the mess his party and he literally created. Absolute scum. 

[Renton 24199]

2 hours ago, wykikitoon said:

A lad I work with is from Boro. We were talking about this the other day. He joined the Navy when he first left school to see some of the world and get a trade and planned to get a job in one of the plants when he finished. When he finished they were all shutting down and no fucking jobs. 

 

Not to want to sound like Norman Tebbit here but what did he do? There are other opportunities available, whether that be moving location to use his trade (presumably not a problem if he has been footloose in the navy) or using some saved brass to get some extra qualifications. Unfortunately no industry is permanent and nowadays you have to be somewhat flexible. I know a couple of lads from the navy who have trained their way to great jobs, better than me, the twats. 

[wykikitoon 23308]

Just now, Renton said:

 

Not to want to sound like Norman Tebbit here but what did he do? There are other opportunities available, whether that be moving location to use his trade (presumably not a problem if he has been footloose in the navy) or using some saved brass to get some extra qualifications. Unfortunately no industry is permanent and nowadays you have to be somewhat flexible. I know a couple of lads from the navy who have trained their way to great jobs, better than me, the twats. 

 

Oh he moved.  He realised if he wanted to progress and use some of the skills her learned in the Navy he had to move.  Thankfully for him the Navy gave him a skillset and taught him to look after himself.  It was the fact he had to move away from his family again.

[Renton 24199]

2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

 

Oh he moved.  He realised if he wanted to progress and use some of the skills her learned in the Navy he had to move.  Thankfully for him the Navy gave him a skillset and taught him to look after himself.  It was the fact he had to move away from his family again.

 

Sympathise with that. Nearly all my industry is based in London and the home counties. If I had been wiling to move at a young age I would have a different career now I'm sure. But I wasn't. Fortunately home working is removing a lot of these barriers now anyway (if you have  a desk based job obviously). 

[PaddockLad 19326]

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1820117092592402589.html
 

How reliable are crime stats in general in this country?… I’ve often thought they were bollocks tbh, especially national ones. They’re not giving you a picture in a particular area. They were used by the tories to cut police numbers by 20k. Apart from that there’s a lot in here that rings true  

[Renton 24199]

11 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1820117092592402589.html
 

How reliable are crime stats in general in this country?… I’ve often thought they were bollocks tbh, especially national ones. They’re not giving you a picture in a particular area. They were used by the tories to cut police numbers by 20k. Apart from that there’s a lot in here that rings true  

 

Good article. Violent crime actually has been decreasing in nearly all western societies for decades. Lots of theories about this, from the removal of lead from petrol to technological devices removing boredom. This is a generational observation which could be reversing, I don't know. I remember in the 1980s it was almost inevitable if you wentoout on a Saturday night you would witness some pretty gruesome violence. Burlgaries and car theft have also gone down hugely, as electronic devices from houses are worth less and cars are much harder to steal. Do you remember what these crimes were like in the 90s? 

Some crimes have gone up hugely though. Fraud. Recently, shoplifitng. And as you point out, the spread of crime is not even. Some of those communities in Boro I would be frightened to even walk through in daylight. Ironically for me though, I always feel safe in Asian communities. The root causes of the situation to me seem to be:

• Genuine concern with the cost of living crisis and a loss of work opportunities in mainly industrial northern towns and cities.
• A lack of education and abitility to think critically in the inhabitants of these left behind places. 
• Rise of demagogues expoliting the above. These have always been there, but...
• Widespread use of social media to promote lies, conspiracy theories, and right wing rhetoric. Coupled with a lack of trust in MSM and politicians. 

For me, probably the most key of these is the lack of people to be able to understand and appraise information. I would immediately make this a mandatory requirement in schools. We won't get the benefit from that for 20 years though. Christ knows what society will be like by then. 

[Rayvin 6117]

4 minutes ago, Renton said:

 

Good article. Violent crime actually has been decreasing in nearly all western societies for decades. Lots of theories about this, from the removal of lead from petrol to technological devices removing boredom. This is a generational observation which could be reversing, I don't know. I remember in the 1980s it was almost inevitable if you wentoout on a Saturday night you would witness some pretty gruesome violence. Burlgaries and car theft have also gone down hugely, as electronic devices from houses are worth less and cars are much harder to steal. Do you remember what these crimes were like in the 90s? 

Some crimes have gone up hugely though. Fraud. Recently, shoplifitng. And as you point out, the spread of crime is not even. Some of those communities in Boro I would be frightened to even walk through in daylight. Ironically for me though, I always feel safe in Asian communities. The root causes of the situation to me seem to be:

• Genuine concern with the cost of living crisis and a loss of work opportunities in mainly industrial northern towns and cities.
• A lack of education and abitility to think critically in the inhabitants of these left behind places. 
• Rise of demagogues expoliting the above. These have always been there, but...
• Widespread use of social media to promote lies, conspiracy theories, and right wing rhetoric. Coupled with a lack of trust in MSM and politicians. 

For me, probably the most key of these is the lack of people to be able to understand and appraise information. I would immediately make this a mandatory requirement in schools. We won't get the benefit from that for 20 years though. Christ knows what society will be like by then. 

 

Critical thinking needs to be pushed in schools indeed, and some sort of civics course so that people understand the country they live in as a political entity, so they can understand what they're voting for. People need to have things like immigration explained to them while they're a captive audience, and not before the right has managed to get their tendrils into them. They can still choose to disagree with it after that of course, but at least they'd be doing so based on factual realities, and not hysteria.