Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. Always hire people brighter than you, that is the golden rule. I'd like reports back when you get going. You're making it sound impossible already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I did too but people who suffer from circumstantial things and you have to chase them, it's awful. This woman changed the mortgage in to her name about 5 years before this conv I had with her, but her husband was paying half the mortgage, he died she couldn't afford it anymore so the house got repossessed. Hated it. I got loads of letters saying thank you for restructuring loans, and they hoped the toon did well cos I'd always have football banter with the customers, much as my gaffa's thought it was unprofessional so it wasn't all bad, I didn't mean to rubbish your job Jill and MacToon, just wasn't for me. Rubbish it all you want, I hate it. I do repossession sales & then collecting the shortfall after the property gets sold off at a low price. People are usually pretty quick to tell their tale as a way of explaining their circumstances and you really do hear some awful stories which make you feel bad for chasing them. Mind, on the other hand someone lied for 4 or 5 years that her husband had died to get out of having their house repossessed and went as far as to say things like she didn't want to leave the area they lived in because the kids liked to go to the dad's grave and cry. It only came to light years later when the bloke signed something. Stop doing it. And fall into arrears on my own bills because I'm not getting paid? It's sould destroying for you and the victim at the other end. Stop it. Now. Ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. Always hire people brighter than you, that is the golden rule. I'd like reports back when you get going. You're making it sound impossible already. Basically it is really important to identify your weaknesses as well as strengths. Hire people to cover your weaknesses but never let on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Always hire people brighter than you, that is the golden rule. I'd like reports back when you get going. You're making it sound impossible already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Always hire people brighter than you, that is the golden rule. I'd like reports back when you get going. You're making it sound impossible already. You know am kiddin fuckin hell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6973 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Knowing some of the awkward prats I work with I wouldn't want to manage them for love nor money! The thing is if I agree to it it puts me in a new position financially completely earning a really good London wage in Newcastle. You have to ask yourself if you want to stay at the level you're at at the moment forever or do you want career progression. What I do at the moment is quite skilled, you need great industry knowledge, but the economy is buoyant enough for me to earn 30k+ year, if I agree to this that changes almost overnight. To be honest I'd rather just have the salary without the hassle. We'll see what happens. I'd hate to end up coming across like Dr Gloom that's my fear. Jobs change people when one of me best mates became a copper he changed a bit, still a good kid overall though. I never said I didn't want to be a manager one day, just not where I work at the minute. The NHS is great for promotion as you can pretty much find a level you are happy with whether it be Band 5 - Staff Nurse running a shift Band 6 - Charge Nurse running the ward Band 7 - Ward Manager Band 8 A,B,C,D - Service Manager, Director etc. You have to balance it with the reasons you went into the job in the first place though. If you always wanted to be a nurse and have patient contact then sitting in a office with some of the dour gits that run our place is probably not for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Always hire people brighter than you, that is the golden rule. I'd like reports back when you get going. You're making it sound impossible already. You know am kiddin fuckin hell I know, I thought it was funny though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Knowing some of the awkward prats I work with I wouldn't want to manage them for love nor money! The thing is if I agree to it it puts me in a new position financially completely earning a really good London wage in Newcastle. You have to ask yourself if you want to stay at the level you're at at the moment forever or do you want career progression. What I do at the moment is quite skilled, you need great industry knowledge, but the economy is buoyant enough for me to earn 30k+ year, if I agree to this that changes almost overnight. To be honest I'd rather just have the salary without the hassle. We'll see what happens. I'd hate to end up coming across like Dr Gloom that's my fear. Jobs change people when one of me best mates became a copper he changed a bit, still a good kid overall though. I never said I didn't want to be a manager one day, just not where I work at the minute. The NHS is great for promotion as you can pretty much find a level you are happy with whether it be Band 5 - Staff Nurse running a shift Band 6 - Charge Nurse running the ward Band 7 - Ward Manager Band 8 A,B,C,D - Service Manager, Director etc. You have to balance it with the reasons you went into the job in the first place though. If you always wanted to be a nurse and have patient contact then sitting in a office with some of the dour gits that run our place is probably not for you. Fuck me! No wonder the NHS is so expensive. Two of those bands are redundant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Knowing some of the awkward prats I work with I wouldn't want to manage them for love nor money! The thing is if I agree to it it puts me in a new position financially completely earning a really good London wage in Newcastle. You have to ask yourself if you want to stay at the level you're at at the moment forever or do you want career progression. What I do at the moment is quite skilled, you need great industry knowledge, but the economy is buoyant enough for me to earn 30k+ year, if I agree to this that changes almost overnight. To be honest I'd rather just have the salary without the hassle. We'll see what happens. I'd hate to end up coming across like Dr Gloom that's my fear. Jobs change people when one of me best mates became a copper he changed a bit, still a good kid overall though. I never said I didn't want to be a manager one day, just not where I work at the minute. The NHS is great for promotion as you can pretty much find a level you are happy with whether it be Band 5 - Staff Nurse running a shift Band 6 - Charge Nurse running the ward Band 7 - Ward Manager Band 8 A,B,C,D - Service Manager, Director etc. You have to balance it with the reasons you went into the job in the first place though. If you always wanted to be a nurse and have patient contact then sitting in a office with some of the dour gits that run our place is probably not for you. Yeah for all we've taken the piss out of each other for three years, you strike me as someone who'd be a good manager. My sister is really senior in the NHS has about 500 people under her on the mental health side in London, and the stress of the job almost effects her mental state. Private work could be the way forward. Edited January 20, 2011 by You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'm old skool. I think good managers are born rather than made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13762 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. When I'm out of Uni, I'll give you a ring. I'll even spell a harder word, it's that kind of competitive edge you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. When I'm out of Uni, I'll give you a ring. I'll even spell a harder word, it's that kind of competitive edge you need. Most of my mates went to Uni obviously all canny, but you know exactly what I mean about the typical student type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 13762 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. When I'm out of Uni, I'll give you a ring. I'll even spell a harder word, it's that kind of competitive edge you need. Most of my mates went to Uni obviously all canny, but you know exactly what I mean about the typical student type. Aye, I know the type you mean, your Student Grant types. Some of which actually exist btw, that's the biggest eye opener for me. I've seen History seminars brought to a standstill while some stupid arsehole goes on about the ills of capitalism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Don't think I've ever had a "good" manager. Most of them got where they are thanks to the Peter Principle. Well I'm being offered this position through circumstances rather than being an arselicker or being anything special. You can do it mate. Cakewalk for you I'm sure. Do it. It's 12 months away like, my only recruitment policies taking people on will be NO MUGS, NO MACKEMS and NO STUDENTS, with the test being spell pneumonia. When I'm out of Uni, I'll give you a ring. I'll even spell a harder word, it's that kind of competitive edge you need. Most of my mates went to Uni obviously all canny, but you know exactly what I mean about the typical student type. Aye, I know the type you mean, your Student Grant types. Some of which actually exist btw, that's the biggest eye opener for me. I've seen History seminars brought to a standstill while some stupid arsehole goes on about the ills of capitalism. They're everywhere mate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I didn't like students before I went to university but that had nothing on my contempt for them by the time I left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I didn't like students before I went to university but that had nothing on my contempt for them by the time I left. Identical to me working in Sunderland and how I felt about mackems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4676 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Best man managers are those who show a genuine interest in their staff and don't employ idiots or stunners. Good luck with your job Stevie, but take it from me, the view from the top of the ladder is sometimes not as great as the view from half way up. I have seen many good sales staff, promoted to managerial position who simply cant handle the stress of the role or relying on others to get the results for them. I always think getting the right work / life balance is the most important, however my life / balance as an old man of 45, married with kids, will be very different to yours. Worth having a go at I would have thought. With regard to debt, if you are really struggling and cant pay, best to ignore most stuff until it gets sold on a few times. Eventually they offer you big discounts to clear it. Once when I was really in the shit and did the above, through necessity rather than choice, this guy used to ring me offering 10% off the debt if I paid in full. A few months later when I was in a position to clear it, about £8000, I rang the same guy back and before I could spit out that I wanted to pay it off, he offered me 30% discount. Happy days. Debt is horrible though, particularly for families, so all of you who work at the other end should try and understand the mindset of the debtor. A lot are at their wits end and just need a bit of time to get sorted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15353 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 My industry doesn't really have managers per se (envelope-changing "project managers" at disreputable agencies don't count). There's no intermediate step between what I do as an experienced translator in my field and outright owning a translation company. Not the kind of vocation for someone who wants a clearly defined career ladder in front of them, basically. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 (edited) Best man managers are those who show a genuine interest in their staff and don't employ idiots or stunners. Good luck with your job Stevie, but take it from me, the view from the top of the ladder is sometimes not as great as the view from half way up. I have seen many good sales staff, promoted to managerial position who simply cant handle the stress of the role or relying on others to get the results for them. I always think getting the right work / life balance is the most important, however my life / balance as an old man of 45, married with kids, will be very different to yours. Worth having a go at I would have thought. With regard to debt, if you are really struggling and cant pay, best to ignore most stuff until it gets sold on a few times. Eventually they offer you big discounts to clear it. Once when I was really in the shit and did the above, through necessity rather than choice, this guy used to ring me offering 10% off the debt if I paid in full. A few months later when I was in a position to clear it, about £8000, I rang the same guy back and before I could spit out that I wanted to pay it off, he offered me 30% discount. Happy days. Debt is horrible though, particularly for families, so all of you who work at the other end should try and understand the mindset of the debtor. A lot are at their wits end and just need a bit of time to get sorted. Aye, regarding the stress bit I know the higher up the ladder you are, the more stress there is involved. I'm quite good with people, but same with anything in life management skills are something which you learn from when you're in the position rather than any course or training manual will tell you, you learn from your mistakes. Regarding debt I did the job MacToon and Jill do, debt recovery and still ended up in trouble young and daft, I did everything you've said there, my only regret was I didn't get more debt and do them for more, as I've discussed with a lad on here who is in the same boat I was in nearly a decade ago. Again you learn from your mistakes, got no regrets I had a good time spending other peoples money and my advice to anyone who is in that position is, it's never as bad as it seems and you'll come out of it smiling. I wish I knew 7 or 8 years ago what I know now. Edited January 20, 2011 by You FCB Get Out Of Our Club Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Who are on here is a manager? Just out of curiosity. At graft, d'you mean? I go into companys and am a trainer. Some boy in all honesty I'm sure you are mac-toon. I'm the global lead in my function meaning i manage and lead. FYP Sorry to be picky but it's a bug bear of mine when people use slang/abbreviations that aren't any shorter than spelling the word properly! I know alex has already picked it up but shouldn't you have started your sentence with 'I am'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChezGiven 0 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 Who are on here is a manager? Just out of curiosity. At graft, d'you mean? I go into companys and am a trainer. Some boy in all honesty Am sure you are mac-toon. Am the global lead in my function meaning i manage and lead. Blagged it innit? Of course mate, how else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Idioteque 0 Posted January 20, 2011 Share Posted January 20, 2011 I'm outraged, just been to asda and seen some student flump walking round with an ipad looking at recipes I felt like taking it from him and smashing it over his head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm outraged, just been to asda and seen some student flump walking round with an ipad looking at recipes I felt like taking it from him and smashing it over his head Have to say, Happy Facette uses the Jamie Oliver App on her touch for the shopping list like. I just done a massive poo. It was like a rounders bat. Incredible! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Park Life 71 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I'm outraged, just been to asda and seen some student flump walking round with an ipad looking at recipes I felt like taking it from him and smashing it over his head Would love to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Face 29 Posted January 21, 2011 Share Posted January 21, 2011 I just done a massive poo. It was like a rounders bat. Incredible! Would love to see that. What a rotter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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