ewerk 29479 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, Kid Dynamite said: He's probably going to lose his job, but there's only one of them who should be going to prison. Nope. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Just now, ewerk said: Nope. Yep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16505 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The kid should be away to prison. Punching female police offers. Prick. Yes. And the copper will go down too. It’ll be a “cause celebre” in the more cuntish parts of our media and he’ll end up being a low rent martyr to the fact averse and the easily led. My cousin’s fellah is an armed copper in Mancyland ( @thebrokendoll met him before we played Man City last season, my cousin accused him of not sounding like a Geordie 🤣) and they’re pretty much resigned to their colleague’s fate. All they generally do at the airport is escort pissed passengers off planes. Cousins fellah’s team have been moved to another assignment now but he knows the lass with the broken nose really well. As you can imagine, every copper in Manchester is fuckin fuming. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29479 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 14 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Yep That’s not what you do as a police officer these days, especially with CCTV. At that point the fucker on the floor was no threat. He’s breached the guidelines and the law. He’ll go down for it and rightly so. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJS 4252 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 The bloke was subdued when he kicked him so it was payback rather than part of the arrest and not part of his training. I also think anyone who stamps on someone's head should be charged with attempted murder - it's an ansolute scum move. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew 4649 Posted July 27 Share Posted July 27 Aye, like it or not police have to be held to a standard where kicking a tased man, lying face down on the floor in the head is unacceptable regardless of whats happened prior. You're not there as a an officer to deal out punishment as you see fit and if you decide to do that you should be prosecuted for it. The americans have constantly let shit like this go and thats how you end up with a george floyd, breona taylor or sonya massey. Its controversial and newsworthy if officers are punished for these actions. It shouldn't be, it should be expected. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) Totally agree that you can't have coppers behaving like this, and you can't set a precedent of saying that it's fine because there are a load of knobs in the coppers that will start trying to test the boundaries of what's ok. We've got enough that are already doing things that are the wrong side of OK anyway. But I hope the two lads on the video that decided they'd kick fuck out of some coppers get the book thrown at them. And also fuck their ambulance chasing, race war stoking, domestic violence supporting, Andrew Tate admiring lawyer - the one that ran against Shabana Mahmood in Birmingham and thought he'd win cos he had a big tiktok following. Prick. Edited July 28 by Gemmill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 FAO any new parents on here. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonatine 11121 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 A new use found for the infamous Mackem Pocket Cheese 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19293 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: What, for booting the bloke who broke a lasses nose? He's probably going to lose his job, but there's only one of them who should be going to prison. So what you're saying is coppers can do what they want and not follow the law? Mmmkay The lad was an utter cunt for what he did. But when he's cuffed on the floor to have a copper do what he did. Nah. Not good. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 hours ago, Gemmill said: Totally agree that you can't have coppers behaving like this, and you can't set a precedent of saying that it's fine because there are a load of knobs in the coppers that will start trying to test the boundaries of what's ok. We've got enough that are already doing things that are the wrong side of OK anyway. But I hope the two lads on the video that decided they'd kick fuck out of some coppers get the book thrown at them. And also fuck their ambulance chasing, race war stoking, domestic violence supporting, Andrew Tate admiring lawyer - the one that ran against Shabana Mahmood in Birmingham and thought he'd win cos he had a big tiktok following. Prick. True. I'm not defending it fwiw. But I can understand why it happened. If you stitch the 2 videos together there was about 5 seconds between the copper getting sucker punched multiple times (and probably fearing his gun might be grabbed), the other bloke hitting the ground and then the copper giving him a boot. I don't suppose it was a pre meditated kick, but the law is the law. Be interesting to see how it plays out in court. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: So what you're saying is coppers can do what they want and not follow the law? Mmmkay The lad was an utter cunt for what he did. But when he's cuffed on the floor to have a copper do what he did. Nah. Not good. He wasn't cuffed on the floor. This video shows the first kick right at the end. (I don't follow this account btw 😂) Edited July 28 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8610 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 5 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: True. I'm not defending it fwiw. But I can understand why it happened. If you stitch the 2 videos together there was about 5 seconds between the copper getting sucker punched multiple times (and probably fearing his gun might be grabbed), the other bloke hitting the ground and then the copper giving him a boot. I don't suppose it was a pre meditated kick, but the law is the law. Be interesting to see how it plays out in court. aye, i suppose it could've been an involuntary reaction, like when you get tapped on the knee with a little hammer. or it could be he's sn absolute whopping thundetcunt who'd lost the plot... bit like benjamin monk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 11 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: aye, i suppose it could've been an involuntary reaction, like when you get tapped on the knee with a little hammer. or it could be he's sn absolute whopping thundetcunt who'd lost the plot... bit like benjamin monk. I suppose Benjamin Monk might be the precedent for this court case. Although there are obviously big differences in the 2 cases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 Benjamin Monk threatening to replace Pineapple Chunk as my go-to rhyming slang for spunk. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34069 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 A lot of people would’ve done a lot worse than what that copper did if you’d just seen a fella chin a couple of female colleagues. That doesn’t make it ok, as we expect high standards from people in that sort of position in this country. But I hope the lad he did it to gets serious prison time. As he absolutely deserves it. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16505 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 37 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Benjamin Monk threatening to replace Pineapple Chunk as my go-to rhyming slang for spunk. You can have that by all means but the cockneys got there before you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Harry_on_the_Boat%3F#:~:text=The title is a reference,rhyming slang for 'face'). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8610 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 9 minutes ago, Alex said: A lot of people would’ve done a lot worse than what that copper did if you’d just seen a fella chin a couple of female colleagues. That doesn’t make it ok, as we expect high standards from people in that sort of position in this country. But I hope the lad he did it to gets serious prison time. As he absolutely deserves it. in this country it's deemed to be a more serious offence to assault a copper than to do so to another member of the public. if we're to accept this is correct then should it not also be that a rogue copper should be dealt with more severely than a member of the public kicking and stamping on another's head? he's very clearly lost the plot as seen by his further assault on the bloke who was sitting down afterwards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: You can have that by all means but the cockneys got there before you https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Is_Harry_on_the_Boat%3F#:~:text=The title is a reference,rhyming slang for 'face'). FYI: Harry and Benjamin are different words. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16505 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: FYI: Harry and Benjamin are different words. That’s true but irrelevant. It’s a bit like someone inventing the wheel then 50 years later someone else making their own wheel as they’d never seen one before and calling it something different… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 34069 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 8 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: in this country it's deemed to be a more serious offence to assault a copper than to do so to another member of the public. if we're to accept this is correct then should it not also be that a rogue copper should be dealt with more severely than a member of the public kicking and stamping on another's head? he's very clearly lost the plot as seen by his further assault on the bloke who was sitting down afterwards. I think every single case should be viewed on its merits and within the context of what’s taken place. Which clearly wasn’t the case when loads of news outlets ran with this as their top story but only showed the footage of the assault by the copper. Who I think should also be prosecuted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 24 minutes ago, Alex said: A lot of people would’ve done a lot worse than what that copper did if you’d just seen a fella chin a couple of female colleagues. That doesn’t make it ok, as we expect high standards from people in that sort of position in this country. But I hope the lad he did it to gets serious prison time. As he absolutely deserves it. The legal twitterati seem to think that if this ends up in court, a guilty verdict will hinge on how much time elapsed between the bloke in the blue top hitting the floor, how quickly the copper realised he had been tasered (by someone else) and how quickly he kicked him. The coppers defence will be: - I was getting punched by at least 2 different people - I feared my gun would be removed - I was dragged to the floor - I could hear my female colleagues being assaulted and in distress - I jumped up and in a split second felt it was proportionate to aim a kick to neutralise to man on the floor in order to get handcuffs on him Twitter seems to be split between those that hate brown people and those that hate the police. There's clearly a more nuanced middle ground here 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6816 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 (edited) And fwiw, proportionality is key here. If someone is trying to stab you for example, you're not going to be prosecuted for giving them a kick to the head. It's up to a jury whether they feel, in the context of the full video, it was proportionate use of force. Edited July 28 by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 41318 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 6 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: There's clearly a more nuanced middle ground here Hate brown police? Bingo- right down the middle. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted July 28 Share Posted July 28 10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: That’s true but irrelevant. It’s a bit like someone inventing the wheel then 50 years later someone else making their own wheel as they’d never seen one before and calling it something different… Please. Expand on this analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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