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On 2017-6-6 at 3:33 PM, wykikitoon said:

Im after a window cleaner.  Contacted one bloke today. £15 FUCKING QUID he wanted! 8 windows to wash.  £15 BASTARD QUID?!!?

My last house was 5 bedrooms and we paid £6. :lol:

 

Are your potential window cleaners females dressed in bikinis while they wash your windows or something?

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4 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

My last house was 5 bedrooms and we paid £6. :lol:

 

Are your potential window cleaners females dressed in bikinis while they wash your windows or something?

Now there's a business idea.

 

And monkeys fist in a mankini for the ladieeees. 

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1 minute ago, Renton said:

Now there's a business idea.

 

And monkeys fist in a mankini for the ladieeees. 

When they knock on the door for their money you put the £15 in their bra's, or in the 32" waist crotch area in the mankini scenario.

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Residents talking about gasworks. Visits from the fire brigade last weekend to say gas leak under control and not to leave apartments if there was a fire.  Bangs that sounded like gunshots and no communal alarm system.

 

Anyone asleep without batteries in their alarm had no chance.

 

Think heads will roll here.

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1 hour ago, ewerk said:

That's a big fuck off fire in London. How did it spread so fast? I'd be amazed if everyone got out.

 

Just heard someone on Radio4 who said when the refurb was done National Gird said the gas needed replacing.

 

Awful

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Just now, Happy Face said:

Residents talking about gasworks. Visits from the fire brigade last weekend to say gas leak under control and not to leave apartments if there was a fire.  Bangs that sounded like gunshots and no communal alarm system.

 

Anyone asleep without batteries in their alarm had no chance.

 

Think heads will roll here.

 

Aye, someone said thank god people ignored fire specialists advice.

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Refurbing high rise blocks is a big part of my job. Heads will definitely roll.

 

from what I've heard it was a gas issue with poor fire stopping throughout the building meaning it spread fast, the fact the facade burnt is shocking as well

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27 minutes ago, Monkeys Fist said:

I've seen a few reports blaming the rapid spread on a recent external render. 

However it happened, it's horrific. 

 


Surly if it was the cladding it wouldnt have spread so quiickly internally?

It's looking like a gas issue for sure.

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Surely if this is an incompetence issue it won't just be heads rolling, it'll be criminal negligence.

 

Horrific news, I can't think of a much worse scenario.

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32 minutes ago, Rayvin said:

Surely if this is an incompetence issue it won't just be heads rolling, it'll be criminal negligence.

 

Horrific news, I can't think of a much worse scenario.

Depends on the actual cause, HSE sentencing can now include jail time in certain cases.

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They're a lovely bunch. Though, I''m sure this all falls on the side of laziness rather than ill-intent i.e. it involved too much paperwork and arseache on a Friday at half 2 to get corrective action taken.

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This aluminium cladding that apparently rapidly spread the fire....the local council, the trust who are the landlords and the local fire brigade will have all known about it.

 

Just to say that the RN tried building ships decks out of a lightweight aluminium alloy but stopped immediately after the Falklands War when it was found to burn intensely and very quickly after taking enemy Exocets. HMS Coventry suffered hugely after it came under attack. 

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10 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

This aluminium cladding that apparently rapidly spread the fire....the local council, the trust who are the landlords and the local fire brigade will have all known about it.

 

Just to say that the RN tried building ships decks out of a lightweight aluminium alloy but stopped immediately after the Falklands War when it was found to burn intensely and very quickly after taking enemy Exocets. HMS Coventry suffered hugely after it came under attack. 

That's exactly what I thought of

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That kind of cladding is usually a sandwich with 0.5m aluminium on either side of some "insulation". The insulation is usually fireproofed but depending on where you source it (China) it can be made from really combustible stuff too. 

 

All the highrises I have worked on have a similar stay put policy in place but they are useless when the fire isn't contained inside a certain compartmented area of the building, and since it spread up the outside in this case it breached all the compartmention 

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Claims that the death toll is likely to be 100+. Lots of chatter that various Tories are also implicated in ignoring fire recommendations on high rise flats and obviously having a hand in the massive fire service cuts 

 

Events like this shouldn't be politicised for point scoring but when a ruling party is clearly at blame then fingers need to be pointed. Can you imagine a Corbyn lead party ignoring those types of recommendations to save cash?

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