trophyshy 7066 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 (edited) Surveyor wants a better surveyor's report on the outstanding issues. Total ballache all this like, I should just buy new. Edited December 14, 2015 by trophyshy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 43271 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Fuck it off. Sounds like a 5 year headache. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4545 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 All depends on your financial circumstances. If you love it, can get a discount to cover the work, then it's not a problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5131 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 All depends on your financial circumstances. If you love it, can get a discount to cover the work, then it's not a problem. Depends more on his motivation than the financials I reckon. Even if you can get the discount, if you can't be arsed, you're not going to get around to any of it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 16742 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 The surveyor has refused to value the property I am looking to buy. This is a very rare event, I am told. The two things stopping her are structural - movement in the newish conservatory and an unsupported chimney. There are shitloads of issues beyond this, rot, infestation, an outbuilding needs demolishing/replacing, etc etc. Of the 24 categories to consider 13 of them (that's more than half Fish) are marked as requiring urgent work. I really like this house but I'm quite lazy. Do I push for considerable discounts or just walk away? The last time I bought a house it was relatively straightforward. Any advice welcomed. Eminent conveyancing secretary Mrs PL says don't touch it with a shitty bargepole, even with CT attached to the end of it. Very unlikely to get anyone to lend you anything if the surveyor wont sign it off....save your money and move on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19490 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Walk away.Unsupported Chimney could be catastrophic next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4545 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Unsupported chimneys are not usually a massive deal. It's usually downstairs where a chimney breast has been removed. Could be as little as a 1k to 2k to sort. Get a list of "urgent issues", find a recommended builder (ideally from friends) and talk it through. This will give you a ball park on cost and length of job which should assist in your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20624 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Alternatively, don't bother. Having gone through a bog standard renovation this year I can confirm its a massive hassle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 You really have to be up for a massive renovation. Youre unlikley to be able to live there, it goes on for longer than you expect and theres always unexpected extra work that the surveyor cant see from a visual inspection. Unless youre really passionate about the house Id steer clear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 6905 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Before you listen to CTs advice on major building work, bear in mind this is the bloke who struggles to finish his back garden off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4545 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Before you listen to CTs advice on major building work, bear in mind this is the bloke who struggles to finish his back garden off I'm the only one giving sensible advice. He loves the house therefore an estimate of cost and time will make his decision easier. If a discount covers the cost and the timescales acceptable then it's all good. And a garden is never finished, it evolves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7066 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks all. CT being the sole voice of optimism is powerful motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kitman 2204 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 I'm the only one giving sensible advice. He loves the house therefore an estimate of cost and time will make his decision easier. If a discount covers the cost and the timescales acceptable then it's all good. And a garden is never finished, it evolves. Have you ever done a major renovation CT? I've done 2 and I can tell you theres more to it than getting estimates and agreeing a discount. You have to do a large amount of work before you even start on the project - do you need planning permission, surveyor, architect assistance etc. Do you pay for a project manager, can you trust your builder, who is contractor, who is sub contracting. Theres all your tradesmen, suppliers etc to deal with both demolition, clearance and re building. You need to think about the legal stuff upfront and insurances and do due diligence on the guys doing the work. Youre dependent on everything going smoothly but it never does. Theres the bank to keep happy, your family gets fed up living in rented, tradesmen let you down. It can be quite draining. And thats assuming that you dont discover major problems like subsidence, poor original construction work, weather damage etc. All delays in the logistics and supply chain cost you money. Honestly theres a lot to consider. Fair enough if you really love a house but its something you need to go into eyes open if it needs a lot of work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4545 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Have you ever done a major renovation CT? I've done 2 and I can tell you theres more to it than getting estimates and agreeing a discount. You have to do a large amount of work before you even start on the project - do you need planning permission, surveyor, architect assistance etc. Do you pay for a project manager, can you trust your builder, who is contractor, who is sub contracting. Theres all your tradesmen, suppliers etc to deal with both demolition, clearance and re building. You need to think about the legal stuff upfront and insurances and do due diligence on the guys doing the work. Youre dependent on everything going smoothly but it never does. Theres the bank to keep happy, your family gets fed up living in rented, tradesmen let you down. It can be quite draining. And thats assuming that you dont discover major problems like subsidence, poor original construction work, weather damage etc. All delays in the logistics and supply chain cost you money. Honestly theres a lot to consider. Fair enough if you really love a house but its something you need to go into eyes open if it needs a lot of work. That's why I said its down to his financial situation and how much he loves the house. It also depends on the work involved. An unsupported chimney and other smaller stuff is nothing. At the end of the day we are all commenting on limited information of his situation, desire and the work involved. Suggesting getting a recommended builder to put some meat on the bones to help with his decision making process is not outlandish advice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 10543 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Burn it down and dance in the ash, daubing your face with the blood of your victims, only then will the dark lord's hunger be sated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15199 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ask for another viewing then surreptitiously sweep the back garden for buried Roman coins. Could pay for most if not all the building work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21591 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Thanks all. CT being the sole voice of optimism is powerful motivation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21591 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ask for another viewing then surreptitiously sweep the back garden for buried Roman coins. Could pay for most if not all the building work. #toptips Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trophyshy 7066 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 Ask for another viewing then surreptitiously sweep the back garden for buried Roman coins. Could pay for most if not all the building work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohhh_yeah 2900 Posted December 14, 2015 Share Posted December 14, 2015 While you are at I would recommend you run a sweep over the drywall. You know there is hidden treasure to be unearthed in the framework. You could find unused nails and possibly a screwdriver or crowbar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4101 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Have you ever done a major renovation CT? I've done 2 and I can tell you theres more to it than getting estimates and agreeing a discount. You have to do a large amount of work before you even start on the project - do you need planning permission, surveyor, architect assistance etc. Do you pay for a project manager, can you trust your builder, who is contractor, who is sub contracting. Theres all your tradesmen, suppliers etc to deal with both demolition, clearance and re building. You need to think about the legal stuff upfront and insurances and do due diligence on the guys doing the work. Youre dependent on everything going smoothly but it never does. Theres the bank to keep happy, your family gets fed up living in rented, tradesmen let you down. It can be quite draining. And thats assuming that you dont discover major problems like subsidence, poor original construction work, weather damage etc. All delays in the logistics and supply chain cost you money. Honestly theres a lot to consider. Fair enough if you really love a house but its something you need to go into eyes open if it needs a lot of work. The new CDM regs can be a ballache for domestic clients as well if you/your contractor arent up to speed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 19490 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Unsupported chimneys are not usually a massive deal. It's usually downstairs where a chimney breast has been removed. Could be as little as a 1k to 2k to sort. Get a list of "urgent issues", find a recommended builder (ideally from friends) and talk it through. This will give you a ball park on cost and length of job which should assist in your decision. WTF! Im a structural engineer and I am pretty scared by that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 20624 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 WTF! Im a structural engineer and I am pretty scared by that! Hush now. Wtf do you know compared with CT? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 32159 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 WTF! Im a structural engineer and I am pretty scared by that! I'll be getting an extension in my next house if all goes well with the sale/purchase. Expect a few CT-esque questions early next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meenzer 15199 Posted December 15, 2015 Share Posted December 15, 2015 Way to burst that man's bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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