goldman 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Post Shearer we need to rebuild. Basically we have about half a decent team. Who do you reckon should stay/go? I think: Given (& Harper) Taylor Baba Ramage Dyer Parker Emre Zog Bowyer Solano Owen are the basis of a top 4 team with some decent additions, obviously defence and attack need beefing up. Someone like Woodgate except not permanently injured, plus a reliable striker for starters. However Boum Bramble Elliott Carr Moore Clark Faye Luque Ameobi are average at best and don't really look like cutting it. Shame about Luque - he could be class but seems to be a bit shot mentally. Whoever comes in must try and keep the basis of the team and build it rather than scrapping the whole thing like Dalglish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6802 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Post Shearer we need to rebuild. Basically we have about half a decent team. Who do you reckon should stay/go? I think: Given (& Harper) Taylor Baba Ramage Dyer Parker Emre Zog Bowyer Solano Owen are the basis of a top 4 team with some decent additions, obviously defence and attack need beefing up. Someone like Woodgate except not permanently injured, plus a reliable striker for starters. However Boum Bramble Elliott Carr Moore Clark Faye Luque Ameobi are average at best and don't really look like cutting it. Shame about Luque - he could be class but seems to be a bit shot mentally. Whoever comes in must try and keep the basis of the team and build it rather than scrapping the whole thing like Dalglish. 110014[/snapback] Put Boywer in the OUT list then I pretty much agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 In theory I'd agree, in practice it would mean bringing about 10 players in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetleftpeg 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Bowyer has to gan like, it's not so much the fact he's become a very average footballer, it's more to do with him looking like he couldn't give a shit anymore. Looks like he'd rather be anywhere but on the pitch for us this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geordieshandy 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Forgetting about Jimmy Milner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zico martin 90 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Forgetting about Jimmy Milner 110064[/snapback] which group should he be in though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Bowyer has to gan like, it's not so much the fact he's become a very average footballer, it's more to do with him looking like he couldn't give a shit anymore. Looks like he'd rather be anywhere but on the pitch for us this season. 110062[/snapback] The trouble with Bowyer, and a few others at NUFC, is that they are on a fuckin' good screw wage-wise and to offload them somewhere else is hard to achieve. Remember also the Butt fellow at brum, who is gonna be on our books again once the burberryham lot get relegated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Bowyer's on a fortune like as he came on a Bosman. 5 year deal too iirc. Already scuppered a few moves away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Keep Luque. We'd surely only get pennies for him if we sold him. I'd give him whatever run we could before next season (get him firing in friendlies?) and see what transpires. Sort of depends on the Owen situation too, surely? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snakehips 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Keep Luque. We'd surely only get pennies for him if we sold him. I'd give him whatever run we could before next season (get him firing in friendlies?) and see what transpires. Sort of depends on the Owen situation too, surely? 110117[/snapback] Owen wont go anywhere imo. He's heard the cheese rumour! As I mooted on another thread, swap Luque for Forlan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldman 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Author Share Posted March 24, 2006 Alright then; Bowyer out, Butt out, Milner definitely back in and jury's still out on Luque. I thought keep Bowyer originally because he's sort of versatile in terms of his position. He could play central, at Leeds(I know it seems ages ago now) he played right midfield and couldn't bloody stop scoring, but you're right he doesn't seem to give much of a toss so we're probably better of without. Butt seems absolutely pointless imo, can't believe he used to generate more enquiries from admiring managers when he was at ManU than any other player. Pele thought he was the best player at the World Cup in 02. Now he's so shite, it makes me cringe to think of him passing the ball straight to his former temates in the FA cup knock out last year. Then chumming up with Fergie at the end - yuck... Milner looks good this season, even if Villa are struggling now. Could be the successor to Nobby after all. Maybe Luque would improve if given a decent injury free run up front with Owen - I've not seen much to suggest he'll justify his price tag though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7199 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 the thing with luque is at the mo he is still highly regarded in spain and we could probably recoup most of our money from real, athletico, valencia or deportivo. however the longer we keep him and the shitter he plays hel do a hugo and go for peanuts in 2 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonraider 0 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 think i'd rather keep carr than baba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest alex Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 think i'd rather keep carr than baba 110252[/snapback] On what basis? Not saying Baba is class (not as shit as a lot make out though) but Carr is pretty ordinary and always injured. Ideally I'd keep both and still get a couple of fullbacks in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 the thing with luque is at the mo he is still highly regarded in spain and we could probably recoup most of our money from real, athletico, valencia or deportivo. however the longer we keep him and the shitter he plays hel do a hugo and go for peanuts in 2 years. 110225[/snapback] They might rate and/or value him highly, but the point is surely that they'd know they had us over a barrell and hence they wouldnt offer much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7199 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 well id have joaquin or torres is a cash plus player deal if that was the case Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manc-mag 1 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 think i'd rather keep carr than baba 110252[/snapback] On what basis? Not saying Baba is class (not as shit as a lot make out though) but Carr is pretty ordinary and always injured. Ideally I'd keep both and still get a couple of fullbacks in. 110253[/snapback] Baba has to be one of the most dis-interested players at the club though. Agreed re Carr and injuries mind and this obviously has a bearing on what other personnel we keep in-if you know one players likely to be crocked you're unlikely to offload other players who perform similar roles. Which makes for a diluted pruning policy, regretably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22212 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 keep: Given (& Harper) Carr Taylor Baba Ramage Moore Dyer Parker Emre Zog Solano Owen get rid: Boum Bramble Bowyer Elliott Clark Faye Luque Ameobi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6802 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Forgetting about Jimmy Milner 110064[/snapback] And Nicky Butt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheInspiration 1 Posted March 24, 2006 Share Posted March 24, 2006 Milner looks good this season, even if Villa are struggling now. Could be the successor to Nobby after all. 110165[/snapback] Worrying thing being, who for - Newcastle or Villa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3538 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 I'd like to see us get Zico Hughes back so we can partner him with Romoreeio, Rambo and the toolman Taylor - can you see anyone out playing our defence? It would be like escape to victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Sima Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 think i'd rather keep carr than baba 110252[/snapback] On what basis? Not saying Baba is class (not as shit as a lot make out though) but Carr is pretty ordinary and always injured. Ideally I'd keep both and still get a couple of fullbacks in. 110253[/snapback] It's because he's black tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sammynb 3538 Posted March 25, 2006 Share Posted March 25, 2006 It's because he's black tbh. 110355[/snapback] Gothist tbh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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