The real United v Manchester reds - Thy choicest gifts in store

[thebrokendoll 10674]

there was one or two of us, me included, who got a bit of an indirect ticking off last week for expressing mild disappointment that we'd maybe missed an opportunity to comprehensively boost our goal difference against a diabolical leicester team. game management, busy schedule, job done etc etc being the counter argument.

with that in mind I'm a bit loathe to confess this, however....

when I was walking back to the car on sunday, despite being happy with what I'd watched there was still a bit of disappointment that we didn't fucking really, really humiliate these cunts, because we could have. I despise these bastards with a fucking passion and isn't even down to having been on the receiving end of a fair few batterings on the pitch for most of my life time. it's because of cunts like this below. 

it's fucking hilarious watching this club fall apart at the seams and long may it continue, how fucking apt that skinny jim is selling the deluded cunts a pipe dream of a circus tent for a stadium. tin pot supporters? they only had a few dozen left in the ground after the 4th went in and most of them were footballing parasites with no self respect who only had 10 mile to travel home.

big andy and the rest of these has been arrogant cunts didn't get the 7 or 8 mauling they so richly deserve this time, but it's coming...

 

[London 70]

9 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

there was one or two of us, me included, who got a bit of an indirect ticking off last week for expressing mild disappointment that we'd maybe missed an opportunity to comprehensively boost our goal difference against a diabolical leicester team. game management, busy schedule, job done etc etc being the counter argument.

with that in mind I'm a bit loathe to confess this, however....

when I was walking back to the car on sunday, despite being happy with what I'd watched there was still a bit of disappointment that we didn't fucking really, really humiliate these cunts, because we could have. I despise these bastards with a fucking passion and isn't even down to having been on the receiving end of a fair few batterings on the pitch for most of my life time. it's because of cunts like this below. 

it's fucking hilarious watching this club fall apart at the seams and long may it continue, how fucking apt that skinny jim is selling the deluded cunts a pipe dream of a circus tent for a stadium. tin pot supporters? they only had a few dozen left in the ground after the 4th went in and most of them were footballing parasites with no self respect who only had 10 mile to travel home.

big andy and the rest of these has been arrogant cunts didn't get the 7 or 8 mauling they so richly deserve this time, but it's coming...

 

I've stilll have a frustrating feeling that despite cries of poverty and clearly being at the PSR limit, clubs like these will still find a way to buy big in the summer. However, holding out hope that the longer the rot goes on, the harder it will be for them to turn this around. 

[Dazzler 12492]

23 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

there was one or two of us, me included, who got a bit of an indirect ticking off last week for expressing mild disappointment that we'd maybe missed an opportunity to comprehensively boost our goal difference against a diabolical leicester team. game management, busy schedule, job done etc etc being the counter argument.

with that in mind I'm a bit loathe to confess this, however....

when I was walking back to the car on sunday, despite being happy with what I'd watched there was still a bit of disappointment that we didn't fucking really, really humiliate these cunts, because we could have. I despise these bastards with a fucking passion and isn't even down to having been on the receiving end of a fair few batterings on the pitch for most of my life time. it's because of cunts like this below. 

it's fucking hilarious watching this club fall apart at the seams and long may it continue, how fucking apt that skinny jim is selling the deluded cunts a pipe dream of a circus tent for a stadium. tin pot supporters? they only had a few dozen left in the ground after the 4th went in and most of them were footballing parasites with no self respect who only had 10 mile to travel home.

big andy and the rest of these has been arrogant cunts didn't get the 7 or 8 mauling they so richly deserve this time, but it's coming...

 

"I am sick of these tin pot fans of these tin pot clubs. Ruining the game in my honest opinion" - Says Big Andy, 65 from Southend. Life long supporter of Manchester United. Hoping to finally set foot in Old Trafford before he gets his head blown off on a farm in the back seat of a range rover (because I assume that's how everyone from Essex dies).

[Toonpack 11968]

13 minutes ago, London said:

I've stilll have a frustrating feeling that despite cries of poverty and clearly being at the PSR limit, clubs like these will still find a way to buy big in the summer. However, holding out hope that the longer the rot goes on, the harder it will be for them to turn this around. 

 

One big problem for them is the psychological one, once the aura of invincibility goes, it's really hard to get back (and theirs is long gone), not many teams coming up against them now will be have any feeling of being beaten before a ball is kicked. Anyone will fancy their chances and conversely their own players will feel vulnerable.

 

Since they unbelievably beat City in December they haven't beaten anyone outside the bottom three (per Clery).

[Renton 24315]

1 hour ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

To be fair to Wright, I saw a bit of him suggesting why would they go anywhere else but he caveated it, (not unreasonably imo) with we need to reinforce in the summer as a statement to our crown in the jewels which I think we will anyway. It's a strange one, we have players who are near a slide down through ages and will need replacing so we do need to manage this carefully but so far I've got great confidence we'll handle this in the manner we have with almost all of our signings, you can add managers to that list as well as I'd have been perfectly happy with Emery as well so they even seem to have a handle on that aspect. With careful signings I honestly think we've a chance to be competing for the title next year but it'll take a great recruitment mission. We have the confidence of beating anyone bar Man city and that will come with the first victory over them. The larger media can act surprised and fawn over us in the future but as per normal they'll be way behind the curve. That's probably in our favour.

 

Winning the league is the dream. In some ways next season might be our best chance for a decade. Liverpool are no great shakes ans I think may decline. Arsenal stagnant. Man City in transition. We're already better than the rest. 

But it would take an amazing transfer window or two. We still don't have the personnel to fight on all fronts. Some of our own players are in their twilight. And we will have the CL to contend with (yes). I don't see us having the consistency for a challenge but even imagining it is possible shows how far we have come. 

[Dazzler 12492]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

One big problem for them is the psychological one, once the aura of invincibility goes, it's really hard to get back (and theirs is long gone), not many teams coming up against them now will be have any feeling of being beaten before a ball is kicked. Anyone will fancy their chances and conversely their own players will feel vulnerable.

 

Since they unbelievably beat City in December they haven't beaten anyone outside the bottom three (per Clery).

Look how long it has taken Arsenal to get even close to the top of the table. Their period ended and they had years struggling to stay in the top 4. Man Utd don't come close to the youth players coming through in recent years, and have a far, far worse transfer policy.

 

I think Amorim is a good manager in a shite environment though (in reality I don't particularly think Ten Hag was a terrible manager either) and I think if he can get some of the dross off their books in the summer and replace them with players that suit his system then he might be able to turn them around slightly. However, I don't know how much say the manager has in transfers there given the players they've brought in recent years - none of whom have seemed to compliment the style of play the manager was looking to implement.

[ewerk 33844]

1 hour ago, thebrokendoll said:

there was one or two of us, me included, who got a bit of an indirect ticking off last week for expressing mild disappointment that we'd maybe missed an opportunity to comprehensively boost our goal difference against a diabolical leicester team. game management, busy schedule, job done etc etc being the counter argument.

with that in mind I'm a bit loathe to confess this, however....

when I was walking back to the car on sunday, despite being happy with what I'd watched there was still a bit of disappointment that we didn't fucking really, really humiliate these cunts, because we could have. I despise these bastards with a fucking passion and isn't even down to having been on the receiving end of a fair few batterings on the pitch for most of my life time. it's because of cunts like this below. 

it's fucking hilarious watching this club fall apart at the seams and long may it continue, how fucking apt that skinny jim is selling the deluded cunts a pipe dream of a circus tent for a stadium. tin pot supporters? they only had a few dozen left in the ground after the 4th went in and most of them were footballing parasites with no self respect who only had 10 mile to travel home.

big andy and the rest of these has been arrogant cunts didn't get the 7 or 8 mauling they so richly deserve this time, but it's coming...

 

 

 

 

[David Kelly 1365]

4 hours ago, Dazzler said:

Look how long it has taken Arsenal to get even close to the top of the table. Their period ended and they had years struggling to stay in the top 4. Man Utd don't come close to the youth players coming through in recent years, and have a far, far worse transfer policy.

 

I think Amorim is a good manager in a shite environment though (in reality I don't particularly think Ten Hag was a terrible manager either) and I think if he can get some of the dross off their books in the summer and replace them with players that suit his system then he might be able to turn them around slightly. However, I don't know how much say the manager has in transfers there given the players they've brought in recent years - none of whom have seemed to compliment the style of play the manager was looking to implement.

I'm not convinced by Amorim at all.  He managed to find a set up that worked for Lisbon but the more I see of his Manchester team, the more I think that must have been luck.  He comes across as a decent enough bloke but he seems to have absolutely no idea of how to stop the the rot at Manure.  He's stubbornly sticking to a formation that he clearly doesn't have the players to make function.  I appreciate he was brought in to try and replicate what he did at Lisbon but what he's doing now can only be effecting them negatively.  Will the players he has there who should be of a decent quality, ever have any faith in him when what he's doing this season is basically making them look like fools.  Surely a good manager would have recognised that he didn't have the tools to do what he wanted this season so come up with a plan to get the best out of what he had until he could reshape the squad to one capable of playing his way.  The way they are playing now, you would have to say that they would be in a very real relegation battle had the bottom three not been so bad.  They're only three points ahead of forth bottom West Ham!  If I was the owner of them I'd be very concerned that what he's doing with that team is significantly reducing the value of the players they will be wanting to move on in the summer to help finance another rebuild. 

 

Not far behind my big hope that we get top five this season is the hope that they get knocked out of the Europa League so they finally finish a season with what they deserve.  Absolutely nothing.  No trophy and no European football.  If that happens anything more than mediocrity for the foreseeable looks well beyond them and Big Andy and the like will have to get used to taking beatings from better run clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth.  

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4315]

4 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

I'm not convinced by Amorim at all.  He managed to find a set up that worked for Lisbon but the more I see of his Manchester team, the more I think that must have been luck.  He comes across as a decent enough bloke but he seems to have absolutely no idea of how to stop the the rot at Manure.  He's stubbornly sticking to a formation that he clearly doesn't have the players to make function.  I appreciate he was brought in to try and replicate what he did at Lisbon but what he's doing now can only be effecting them negatively.  Will the players he has there who should be of a decent quality, ever have any faith in him when what he's doing this season is basically making them look like fools.  Surely a good manager would have recognised that he didn't have the tools to do what he wanted this season so come up with a plan to get the best out of what he had until he could reshape the squad to one capable of playing his way.  The way they are playing now, you would have to say that they would be in a very real relegation battle had the bottom three not been so bad.  They're only three points ahead of forth bottom West Ham!  If I was the owner of them I'd be very concerned that what he's doing with that team is significantly reducing the value of the players they will be wanting to move on in the summer to help finance another rebuild. 

 

Not far behind my big hope that we get top five this season is the hope that they get knocked out of the Europa League so they finally finish a season with what they deserve.  Absolutely nothing.  No trophy and no European football.  If that happens anything more than mediocrity for the foreseeable looks well beyond them and Big Andy and the like will have to get used to taking beatings from better run clubs like Brighton and Bournemouth.  

He also hasn’t improved a single player at the club

[David Kelly 1365]

11 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

He also hasn’t improved a single player at the club

Nope, and then you see Rashford and Anthony looking better as soon as they leave.

[Gemmill 51859]

I agree DK. It's very early in his managerial career to be getting that job. He's only been doing it since 2018 and we're seeing his lack of experience right now in his insistence that he only plays one way, and he'll stick to it regardless of results. 

 

It's totally possible that he just had a lightning in a bottle moment at Sporting that he might never be able to repeat at Man United. 

[Kevin Carr's Gloves 4315]

Who was big Joe offering to scrap in the tunnel?

[Gemmill 51859]

Aye I wanted to know that. I think it was either Lindelof or Amass. 

[Alex 37578]

7 minutes ago, Kevin Carr's Gloves said:

Who was big Joe offering to scrap in the tunnel?

Urgarte. At least that’s how I think you spell it. Gemmill will let me know if it’s not 

[David Kelly 1365]

Surprised Ugarte has ever made it out of Miley's pocket from when we played PSG.

Edited 22 hours ago by David Kelly

[David Kelly 1365]

15 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

I agree DK. It's very early in his managerial career to be getting that job. He's only been doing it since 2018 and we're seeing his lack of experience right now in his insistence that he only plays one way, and he'll stick to it regardless of results. 

 

It's totally possible that he just had a lightning in a bottle moment at Sporting that he might never be able to repeat at Man United. 

Aye he's very young and inexperienced to get such a job.  It's possible he may turn out to be an excellent manager, but I think they were so desperate to try and get the exciting new manager on the block (which they also did to an extent with Ming The Merciless) that they've jumped in far too early.

[Ayatollah Hermione 14956]

They went down the route of experienced trophy winners and they couldn’t sort it either. Man United need to do the right thing and get relegated instead of making the numbers up. Let a proper team make a real go of it. Like a Coventry or a Leeds

[ewerk 33844]

It's hard to blame Amorim too much. From the very beginning he said he wanted to play this exact system and wouldn't change so I can't imagine he told them anything different in the interview. It seems incredibly risky to hire a manager like that knowing you don't have the financial resources to overhaul the squad to meet his needs. Saying that, he clearly can't get the players motivated to put in a shift but that's half on him and half on years of shite recruitment.

[thebrokendoll 10674]

fucking hilarious that ratcliffe rocks up with £1.25b investment and a remit to sort out the footballing side of the club only to oversee it spiral out of control in a sea of horrendously bad publicity. delicious that probably the one decent decision he's made was to poach ashworth off us and he bombed him out 5 minutes later.

hopefully amorim is retained long enough to spend a small fortune and take them to the point of no return as far as relegation concerned next season.

couldn't happen to a bigger set of cunts than those that latch on to man utd in an easy attempt at glory.

Edited 22 hours ago by thebrokendoll

[Alex 37578]

Ratcliffe will have probably only got rid of Ashworth because he wanted a scapegoat as well.  

[Isegrim 10685]

It couldn’t have happened to a set of bigger cunts (ignoring Chelsea). They deserve everything and more.

[Craig 7139]

Fernandes aside, I think they're a piss-poor squad.

Amorin's had one January transfer window which is known to be typically difficult to do anything aside from picking off unwanted players here and there. Also he had to do so in a climate where Ratcliffe is cutting costs across the club and not giving a fuck who he upsets in the process. 

Being objective for a moment, how they've treated Ferguson is an utter disgrace when you consider all he did to put the club in the position it was when they inherited it. 

It's too early IMO to judge Amorin. It'll be interesting to see what the summer brings and whether he can make his own mark - I think the club is ultimately still suffering from the call to bring Ronaldo back to the club. 

Personally I couldn't care less about whether they plateau or crash and burn but again speaking objectively, there are some decent Man Utd fans out there who are having to experience a club being run like a crock of shit. We've been there and experienced it ourselves so I have some empathy. 

[Meenzer 16681]

20 minutes ago, Craig said:

Personally I couldn't care less about whether they plateau or crash and burn but again speaking objectively, there are some decent Man Utd fans out there who are having to experience a club being run like a crock of shit. We've been there and experienced it ourselves so I have some empathy. 

 

With apologies to all your kids and grandkids, if we could have the same trophy record over the next 20 years that Manchester United managed after 1992, I think I'd be fine with us being run into the ground from 2045 onwards.

 

[Craig 7139]

5 minutes ago, Meenzer said:

 

With apologies to all your kids and grandkids, if we could have the same trophy record over the next 20 years that Manchester United managed after 1992, I think I'd be fine with us being run into the ground from 2045 onwards.

 

Totally agree. The point I was making was more in reference to the way the club is run rather than on-field success.

 

Football being extremely tribal, it is difficult to feel much sympathy for rival clubs when they've got owners who are complete cunts and let's face it, there was little sympathy for us when we were having to deal with Ashley's circus but I don't wish that shite on anyone. As someone said today about the anniversary of Hillsborough - many of us wear different colours and worship different badges, but at the end of the day, we all share a common love of the beautiful game. How dare non-Football people try to destroy that for people who have no choice but to live and breathe it.

[Gemmill 51859]

If you can present me with a decent Man United fan, and I can be convinced over a period of time that they don't feel they are inherently better than us, and that they don't have some kind of divine right to be in the mix for the title every season..... Then, and only then, will I see if I can conjure up some sympathy for them. 

 

Until such time, they can allllll fuuuuuuuck offffffffff and fucking suck up being a little bit SHIT for a while. They're still in the latter stages of a European competition as it stands, and they haven't been relegated in 50 years. They're not even having it that fucking hard at the minute. Get them all to fuck.