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4 hours ago, Alex said:

Honestly think me and my eldest were more arsed about Heaton Stan getting their third win on the bounce and moving 4 points clear of relegation in the Northern Premier League East Division today than NUFC getting beat. I do care about Newcastle of course and I would love to see us win something. And I’m far from fanatical when it comes to Heaton Stan either. I just feel very detached at times and accept a loss like today with a shrug of the shoulders. Everything is so sanitised 


I think like this sometimes but being there for that second leg against Arsenal felt like something akin to an old football experience. Full blooded support for your team against a team you hate in a game we needed to win. I left St James feeling more connected with it all than ever. Then they serve that shit up today. 

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It was the players not putting a full shift in. This is a team that got to the CL by giving 100% every week. When we do that we’re fantastic. If we don’t do that then we get days like yesterday, Fulham, Bournemouth etc. This side isn’t good enough to be able to coast through games, we need to be fully at it. It’s what our previous successes have been built on.

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12 minutes ago, ewerk said:

It was the players not putting a full shift in. This is a team that got to the CL by giving 100% every week. When we do that we’re fantastic. If we don’t do that then we get days like yesterday, Fulham, Bournemouth etc. This side isn’t good enough to be able to coast through games, we need to be fully at it. It’s what our previous successes have been built on.

 

If one or two have a bad game it's contagious and the damage is beyond repair for that 90+ minutes.

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11 minutes ago, ewerk said:

It was the players not putting a full shift in. This is a team that got to the CL by giving 100% every week. When we do that we’re fantastic. If we don’t do that then we get days like yesterday, Fulham, Bournemouth etc. This side isn’t good enough to be able to coast through games, we need to be fully at it. It’s what our previous successes have been built on.


yeah, it’s fine to lose the tactical

battle - particular against a coach like Pep and the players he can call on - but yesterday looked like a lack of effort. There was no snap in midfield, no desire to win the 50 50 balls and at least make it hard for them. It’s hard to explain really. When so much is at stake, why can’t they get up for certain games? 

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1 hour ago, wykikitoon said:

I think yesterday was part tactical fuck up by Howe and part missing players through injury and a large part PSR. 

 

We regroup and go again next week. 


It was a massive tactical fuckup by Howe. 
 

We tried to play 433 in possession, and 541 out of possession, with Murphy dropping into RWB and Trippier at RCB. 
 

That worked against Arsenal with 3 CBs in the team and Trippier pushing up to RW in possession. It failed miserably yesterday with Trippier dropping into RCB every time we lost the ball. He got turned inside out twice for the first 2 goals. 

 

 

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1 minute ago, Kid Dynamite said:


It was a massive tactical fuckup by Howe. 
 

We tried to play 433 in possession, and 541 out of possession, with Murphy dropping into RWB and Trippier at RCB. 
 

That worked against Arsenal with 3 CBs in the team and Trippier pushing up to RW in possession. It failed miserably yesterday with Trippier dropping into RCB every time we lost the ball. He got turned inside out twice for the first 2 goals. 

 

 


Even if Howe has played the wrong system you would still expect a level of intensity and competitiveness that was completely absent yesterday. Felt like more of an attitude than a tactics problem to me. I don’t imagine Howe told them to stand off them all game and play without any commitment or energy so this one is on the players rather than the coach for me. 

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11 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Like I said. They had Gundo who has legs like David Weir yet he looked like he could have played all match. 

 

don't know what happened yesterday.

it was like you guys didn't turn up.

normally you press like bastards and yesterday nothing.

i wonder if maybe you expected us to be easy and it caught you off guard.

from our point of view, all the new players looked decent.

given me that tiny piece of hope for Madrid just so long as Rico doesn't play.

 

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42 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:


yeah, it’s fine to lose the tactical

battle - particular against a coach like Pep and the players he can call on - but yesterday looked like a lack of effort. There was no snap in midfield, no desire to win the 50 50 balls and at least make it hard for them. It’s hard to explain really. When so much is at stake, why can’t they get up for certain games? 

 

we were beaten before we started yesterday. effort or maybe attitude as you mention above. not all down to the players though, it's howe's job to instill the motivation as well as the tactics and it all went horribly awry.

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1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

we were beaten before we started yesterday. effort or maybe attitude as you mention above. not all down to the players though, it's howe's job to instill the motivation as well as the tactics and it all went horribly awry.

 

I'm not sure it was all down to you guys not showing up.

 

I think Gonzalez went a long way towards filling the Rodri hole. Helping City be City again.

 

Khusanov and Stones looked much more solid than any pairing for a while. 

 

And Marmoush showed that he can walk the walk. 

 

I was interested to see Khusanov sprinting with Gordon and catching him up.

 

Have to say i expected more from Bruno and Tonali.

 

Quite liked to see Burn and Haaland share a joke when Burn did that near post block for a corner.

 

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3 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

We never do down there.

 

Think i heard someone say that the last time you won at City it was Maine Road and that Shearer got the goal. A massively offside pre-VAR goal too.

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Gonzales was excellent. He just tidied up, plugged gaps, fetched and carried and allowed Gundogan and Foden to create. Kushanov was unflustered but tbf wasn’t up against much. He helped double team Isak a few times. Nothing much to say about Marmoush his quality is obvious to all. 
 

Three almost certainly transformative signings all playing very well two weeks after the end of the window v decent opposition, a window in which we sold two squad players. 
 

Right from kick off Foden went into the pocket and caused  problems, no one seemed to know who was marking him.  Not long after that Dan Burn raced out into midfield to challenge him when he was on the ball further back on the half way line. Foden looked a bit shocked but it never happened again after that, City took control and that was the extent of our “front foot” stuff. We visibly wilted. Isak started occupying the space Murphy usually exploits. Bruno disappeared and this time it was contagious, Tonali was seemingly struck by the same bug. One man can’t do it all obvs especially v the league champions. Joelinton and Botman need to be back in time for our visit to Anfield and remain fit for the final if we’ve to have any chance…
 

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18 minutes ago, LondonBlue said:

 

Think i heard someone say that the last time you won at City it was Maine Road and that Shearer got the goal. A massively offside pre-VAR goal too.


19 visits and I think it’s 19 defeats. Tommy Wright and George Weah were both on the team sheet for Man City :lol: Bobby Robson was Newcastle Manager so am guessing Keegan may have been man city manager?  Played at Maine Road. All that makes it sound like it was from another century, which it almost was…

 

(this website used to be good but it’s now virtually un usable due to adverts 😕 ) 

 

https://www.11v11.com/matches/manchester-city-v-newcastle-united-30-september-2000-1735/

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7 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:


19 visits and I think it’s 19 defeats. Tommy Wright and George Weah were both on the team sheet for Man City :lol: Bobby Robson was Newcastle Manager so am guessing Keegan may have been man city manager?  Played at Maine Road. All that makes it sound like it was from another century, which it almost was…

 

(this website used to be good but it’s now virtually un usable due to adverts 😕 ) 

 

https://www.11v11.com/matches/manchester-city-v-newcastle-united-30-september-2000-1735/

 

Yeah it was probably Keegan as George Weah was one of his.

 

He was on his last legs for us, like Robbie Fowler was later, and Andy Cole etc

 

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2 hours ago, LondonBlue said:

 

Think i heard someone say that the last time you won at City it was Maine Road and that Shearer got the goal. A massively offside pre-VAR goal too.

 

The man who would be king (in the canteen), Alan Pardew, was the last manager to win down there but it doesn't count apparently as it wasn't in the hallowed PL. 

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