Dazzler 11837 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 7 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: I just read that Everton's new 52k seater stadium cost £750m and took 3.5 years to build. Why is ours projected to cost double that and take twice as long? Because Everton are shite and probably built it out of paper mache like those fake shops in North Korea. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22912 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 10 hours ago, Kid Dynamite said: I just read that Everton's new 52k seater stadium cost £750m and took 3.5 years to build. Why is ours projected to cost double that and take twice as long? Inflation? THere's had to be built over a Grad II listed dock so the planning prior to it was longer and once planning was agreed they can place orders and get decent prices. That 3.5 years doesn't include the filling in of the dock either, that work took another year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22912 Posted February 27 Share Posted February 27 3 hours ago, Dazzler said: Because Everton are shite and probably built it out of paper mache like those fake shops in North Korea. Temu stadium Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10286 Posted yesterday at 14:30 Share Posted yesterday at 14:30 just as a slight aside to this, what happens first.... man utd play in front of 100,000 people? or our useless cunts complete their feasibility study/fan consultation/planning permission application/employ some brickies? 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7643 Posted yesterday at 14:34 Author Share Posted yesterday at 14:34 It does appear to be a slow process. I also note that someone's figured out that we got at least 80k members currently. Surely that suggests we can afford to add more than 18k seats to the capacity in our new stadium? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49998 Posted yesterday at 14:49 Share Posted yesterday at 14:49 I wouldn't be surprised if the Man United thing never happens, and isn't just a bit of PR at a time when there's been nothing but bad news about the club. They're £1bn in debt, and they're gonna build a £2bn stadium? More likely that sponsors are making noises about the amount they're paying to a bottom half PL club, and they needed to generate a positive news story. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22912 Posted yesterday at 14:59 Share Posted yesterday at 14:59 12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted yesterday at 17:17 Share Posted yesterday at 17:17 Aye, the ManU proposals aren't happening. It looks shit brand new, can you imagine the state of it after a few Mancunian winters? Hopefully we'll find out about SJP soon enough (next month). I got a video about it from the Sun last night starring PL's favourite son Adam Pearson of all people. They were saying a Gallowgate extension was >£1 billion for an extra 13k seats. My maths isn't great but that's £77k a seat! It would take a century to break even. But then they were also saying a new stadium would be £2 billion. None of this makes financial sense apart from as a vanity project tbh. Who knows what the future of FFP even is, surely it can't be the motivation to spunk up this amount of cash? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1807 Posted yesterday at 17:52 Share Posted yesterday at 17:52 Its more than that though, get a modern stadium and you can host a load of non football stuff there, big concerts, host more internationals, other sports. More facilities and conferencing too. All brownie points with the UK government if we inject £2B into the area for jobs and growth 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7643 Posted yesterday at 17:53 Author Share Posted yesterday at 17:53 That £1bil figure is total bollocks. It's gonna cost us more than Everton's entire new stadium to add 13k seats in the Gallowgate and tart the place up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7643 Posted yesterday at 17:54 Author Share Posted yesterday at 17:54 1 minute ago, RobElliott said: Its more than that though, get a modern stadium and you can host a load of non football stuff there, big concerts, host more internationals, other sports. More facilities and conferencing too. All brownie points with the UK government if we inject £2B into the area for jobs and growth Most clubs have to sign themselves up for 10/20/30 years of debt to build a new ground. PIF could flip off the whole league to gift us £2bil so that every penny we make when the ground opens is profit. Probably not gonna happen, but it would be funny. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted yesterday at 18:14 Share Posted yesterday at 18:14 15 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: That £1bil figure is total bollocks. It's gonna cost us more than Everton's entire new stadium to add 13k seats in the Gallowgate and tart the place up? Yeah, shouldn't be that much, but I can see 400 million being possible given the complexities and constraints of the site. The last extension cost 80 million if you inflate it to today's prices, but construction has gone up insanely. All the stuff about underpinning the foundations etc. I'm no structural engineer mind but neither are the geniuses at the Sun I guess. A new stadium of 70k upwards to the spec of Spurs one would be more than a billion like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted yesterday at 18:16 Share Posted yesterday at 18:16 23 minutes ago, RobElliott said: Its more than that though, get a modern stadium and you can host a load of non football stuff there, big concerts, host more internationals, other sports. More facilities and conferencing too. All brownie points with the UK government if we inject £2B into the area for jobs and growth Aye but still. As long as we get Taylor Swift from the mackems. Imagine the fewm marra! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkeys Fist 45163 Posted yesterday at 20:57 Share Posted yesterday at 20:57 2 hours ago, Renton said: Aye but still. As long as we get Taylor Swift from the mackems. Imagine the fewm marra! I reckon no actual mackems went to their hosted concerts, Beyonegetonefreeonce, and …err… the others on account of them being too expensive for the average Morlock. If we really wanted turn the screw on our nether-neighbours, we’d open a weekly evening of The New Blue Monkey in the fucking car park or wherever, pumping out that mind-melting shite all Vauxhall Nova owners love to share with the neighbourhood. Tickets sold on a postcode basis, NE codes only. RTG would actually explode. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7643 Posted 3 hours ago Author Share Posted 3 hours ago (edited) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-14495141/Newcastle-new-stadium-St-James-Park-location-Wembley-Leazes.html 65k new ground on Leazes Park, directly behind St James apparently. Disappointing capacity if true Edited 3 hours ago by Kid Dynamite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49998 Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago Second biggest club ground in the country tbf. Only Old Trafford is bigger. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6811 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago That’ll be 65K without undoubted scope for expansion. Makes complete sense to me. Everyone seems to be getting pissy about the capacity. It’ll be the second biggest club ground in the UK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6811 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Has anyone got access to the article behind the paywall. I refuse to pay the Daily Mail a penny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 482 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 11 minutes ago, Craig said: That’ll be 65K without undoubted scope for expansion. Makes complete sense to me. Everyone seems to be getting pissy about the capacity. It’ll be the second biggest club ground in the UK Everton's can go to about 60k once the 1 seat per safe standing seat rule is changed, which they think will be sooner rather than later, you'd think ours would go up naturally with that? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11382 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Craig said: Has anyone got access to the article behind the paywall. I refuse to pay the Daily Mail a penny! Here you go https://archive.ph/D2egA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted 2 hours ago Share Posted 2 hours ago Bubble wrap skin like Bayern Munich? BORING. It's a no from me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 46 minutes ago, Craig said: That’ll be 65K without undoubted scope for expansion. Makes complete sense to me. Everyone seems to be getting pissy about the capacity. It’ll be the second biggest club ground in the UK 70k seems like a better capacity to me. Why expand later? Sounds like 65k is to restrain capacity, create demand and increase ticket prices through FOMO. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36629 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago "I'm shewa if we wa in the Premeya leyague we'd have a 65,000 staydeyum as well." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11382 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 6 minutes ago, Renton said: Bubble wrap skin like Bayern Munich? BORING. It's a no from me. Hold everything, Renton dissents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Renton 23698 Posted 1 hour ago Share Posted 1 hour ago 21 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Hold everything, Renton dissents. Correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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