#Eddie out

[thebrokendoll 9450]

15 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

It should be perhaps pointed out that we were in the bottom 3 when Robson got sacked

 

 

 

his team was in decline, people were asking justifiable questions not only about this but also whether he was up to managing a bunch of young twats and that it might need someone a bit more capable of hauling them back in to line than a bloke in his 70s.

I don't recall at any point robson being hounded out, that's a mackem myth. I do recall though that supporters doubting robson being able to turn things round would've liked to have seen him moved 'upstairs" rather than sacked. not unreasonable I don't think.

the problem was shepherd's choice to replicate ferguson's hairdryer approach was the cunt souness, whose blackburn team was only one of three below us.

[RobElliott 1565]

5 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Where were we? 5/6 bottom?  

 

 

Just wait for the sheilAchmed to provide the insight on this one  

[Alex 35567]

3 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Where were we? 5/6 bottom?  

 

16th on goal difference after 4 games. After the Villa result. Was he sacked the next day? 
I’ve got vague recollections of drifting in and out of consciousness in the spare bedroom of my old house listening to it. Thinking we’d turned a corner then waking to hear Villa’s 4th go in. 
Just say no, kids 

[Toonpack 9908]

4 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

Correct, two crashes recently.

[Alex 35567]

I had to look up the historic league table. Like fuck could I remember that 

[thebrokendoll 9450]

1 minute ago, Alex said:

I had to look up the historic league table. Like fuck could I remember that 

 

off the top of my head I thought we were 4th bottom, 2 points from four games?

[Alex 35567]

2 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

his team was in decline, people were asking justifiable questions not only about this but also whether he was up to managing a bunch of young twats and that it might need someone a bit more capable of hauling them back in to line than a bloke in his 70s.

I don't recall at any point robson being hounded out, that's a mackem myth. I do recall though that supporters doubting robson being able to turn things round would've liked to have seen him moved 'upstairs" rather than sacked. not unreasonable I don't think.

the problem was shepherd's choice to replicate ferguson's hairdryer approach was the cunt souness, whose blackburn team was only one of three below us.

The timing felt all wrong though that early in the season. I’ve heard from a couple of people including Shepherd’s cousin, who went to school with my dad, that Freddie S went on holiday with SBR. And that the plan was to tell him he was being moved upstairs. But then he didn’t have the heart to do it when it happened. I mean, who knows? I think the cousin would admit FS saying that didn’t necessarily mean it was true. 

[PaddockLad 17641]

3 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

Correct, two crashes recently.

[thebrokendoll 9450]

2 minutes ago, Alex said:

The timing felt all wrong though that early in the season. I’ve heard from a couple of people including Shepherd’s cousin, who went to school with my dad, that Freddie S went on holiday with SBR. And that the plan was to tell him he was being moved upstairs. But then he didn’t have the heart to do it when it happened. I mean, who knows? I think the cousin would admit FS saying that didn’t necessarily mean it was true. 

 

I'd agree the timing was wrong, to say nowt about the choice of replacement!

plenty of people thought he'd have gone in the summer though.

[PaddockLad 17641]

The timing of Robson’s sacking is/was always going to be wrong if there wasn’t a successor lined up. That’s how you end up an uncompetitive mess for the next decade. If he’d been sacked in early June and not late August it wouldn’t have mattered if Shepherd didn’t have someone ready on July 1st to start pre season. And given Shep’s subsequent and previous appointments he’d have fuckin struggled regardless  

[PaddockLad 17641]

30 minutes ago, Alex said:

16th on goal difference after 4 games. After the Villa result. Was he sacked the next day? 
I’ve got vague recollections of drifting in and out of consciousness in the spare bedroom of my old house listening to it. Thinking we’d turned a corner then waking to hear Villa’s 4th go in. 
Just say no, kids 

I was at Villa, think Kluivert scored his first goal for us. Robson might have dropped Bellamy?.. anyway, the highlight of the day was being stuck in traffic on the way home and listening to Kelly Holmes win her second gold medal in less than a week and realising that every fucker that part of the on the M6 that day was listening to it too  

[Alex 35567]

28 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

off the top of my head I thought we were 4th bottom, 2 points from four games?

Well Portsmouth had two games in hand so as near as damned anyway 

[Alex 35567]

Just now, PaddockLad said:

I was at Villa, think Kluivert scored his first goal for us. Robson might have dropped Bellamy?.. anyway, the highlight of the day was being stuck in traffic on the way home and listening to Kelly Holmes win her second gold medal in less than a week and realising that every fucker that part of the on the M6 that day was listening to it too  

Robson dropped Shearer. I only know because I looked it up on .com to get the date (because I distinctly remembered it being the last game for Robson). 
https://www.nufc.com/html/2004-05html/2004-08-28astonvilla-a.html

[Alex 35567]

4 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

I was at Villa, think Kluivert scored his first goal for us. Robson might have dropped Bellamy?.. anyway, the highlight of the day was being stuck in traffic on the way home and listening to Kelly Holmes win her second gold medal in less than a week and realising that every fucker that part of the on the M6 that day was listening to it too  

Remember watching that. Me and my lass could hear the people next door cheering too. Absolutely sensational performance and quite a beautiful moment after the bad luck she’d had in her career with injuries. 

[PaddockLad 17641]

4 minutes ago, Alex said:

Robson dropped Shearer. I only know because I looked it up on .com to get the date (because I distinctly remembered it being the last game for Robson). 
https://www.nufc.com/html/2004-05html/2004-08-28astonvilla-a.html

“The more things change the more they stay the same “ ☺️

 

 

[thebrokendoll 9450]

3 minutes ago, Alex said:

Robson dropped Shearer. I only know because I looked it up on .com to get the date (because I distinctly remembered it being the last game for Robson). 
https://www.nufc.com/html/2004-05html/2004-08-28astonvilla-a.html

 

had to go then, same as gullit.

you don't fuck about with mary poppins and live to tell the tale!

[Holden McGroin 6782]

Seems like Tonali is the new Shearer.

 

You can't drop Tonali, man.

[Holden McGroin 6782]

2 hours ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

his team was in decline, people were asking justifiable questions not only about this but also whether he was up to managing a bunch of young twats and that it might need someone a bit more capable of hauling them back in to line than a bloke in his 70s.

I don't recall at any point robson being hounded out, that's a mackem myth. I do recall though that supporters doubting robson being able to turn things round would've liked to have seen him moved 'upstairs" rather than sacked. not unreasonable I don't think.

the problem was shepherd's choice to replicate ferguson's hairdryer approach was the cunt souness, whose blackburn team was only one of three below us.

The young uns were supposedly out of control (I’m assuming Bellamy, Jenas and Dyer here)  but not sure if there was any substance in it. I can only remember one confirmed case where Dyer refused to play out of position.

[thebrokendoll 9450]

7 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

The young uns were supposedly out of control (I’m assuming Bellamy, Jenas and Dyer here)  but not sure if there was any substance in it. I can only remember one confirmed case where Dyer refused to play out of position.

 

we also had the infamous grosvenor hotel spit roasting incident. sure there was other stuff?

[Howmanheyman 33819]

2 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

we also had the infamous grosvenor hotel spit roasting incident. sure there was other stuff?

 

I think Bobby was a bit too old for that at the time, he'd have put his back out.

[Sonatine 11542]

12 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said:

 

I think Bobby was a bit too old for that at the time, he'd have put his back out.

[PaddockLad 17641]

18 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

we also had the infamous grosvenor hotel spit roasting incident. sure there was other stuff?

That was Titus, the other individual may have been a mate? 

 

I’ll never forget reading the Sun’s account of what happened, they didn’t divulge the names but it went something something like…

 

”the player’s manager, a legend in the game, had to sit down after being informed of the incident”  

 

Think that was the first ever Friday night game on Sky at Highbury. Bramble as usual had been in decent form for a month or so but inevitably (so it seemed to me) as soon as the tv cameras appeared he fell to peices, skied a clearance and Henry buried it. I think it was an equaliser after Jenas had scored a cracker to take the lead? Imagine letting that bunch of fuckin twats loose in London on a Friday night after a game though?  

[PaddockLad 17641]

36 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

The young uns were supposedly out of control (I’m assuming Bellamy, Jenas and Dyer here)  but not sure if there was any substance in it. I can only remember one confirmed case where Dyer refused to play out of position.

He crashed his car on the Tyne bridge too iirc…

[Holden McGroin 6782]

2 minutes ago, PaddockLad said:

That was Titus, the other individual may have been a mate? 

 

I’ll never forget reading the Sun’s account of what happened, they didn’t divulge the names but it went something something like…

 

”the player’s manager, a legend in the game, had to sit down after being informed of the incident”  

 

Think that was the first ever Friday night game on Sky at Highbury. Bramble as usual had been in decent form for a month or so but inevitably (so it seemed to me) as soon as the tv cameras appeared he fell to peices, skied a clearance and Henry buried it. I think it was an equaliser after Jenas had scored a cracker to take the lead? Imagine letting that bunch of fuckin twats loose in London on a Friday night after a game though?  

 

I was at that game.

[Gemmill 45997]

 at Bobby having to sit down to digest the concept of a spit roast. No doubt wondering if he could talk Elsie into one.