ewerk 31583 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 4 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Points to date? We finished 7th last season. the football was POOR. Your Points to date, before this run started, had us STILL sitting in 7th. Before this run. we were sitting in 12th and the football was PAINFUL to watch. Dont even pretend you dont remember how PAINFUL the football was at the start of the season while we were fluking 3 points. Come of it and just admit the topic of eddie's future was completely valid. You said we've been poor over 18 months. The stats prove we haven't. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21456 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago Some people seem to forget the massive injury issues we had last season too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35910 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 21 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Points to date? We finished 7th last season. the football was POOR. Your Points to date, before this run started, had us STILL sitting in 7th. Before this run. we were sitting in 12th and the football was PAINFUL to watch. Dont even pretend you dont remember how PAINFUL the football was at the start of the season while we were fluking 3 points. Come of it and just admit the topic of eddie's future was completely valid. Do you wonder why you’re a fucking laughing stock on here? 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31583 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago The simplest way to judge performance is to compare finishing positions against wage bill. We're not doing too badly on that front. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10790 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 41 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: @Rayvin is this an old man thing? The complete inability to accept someone has a different opinion to yourself? How come you’re an outlier? You must be a young fella. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1299 Posted 23 hours ago Author Share Posted 23 hours ago 3 minutes ago, Alex said: Do you wonder why you’re a fucking laughing stock on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22509 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 48 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: we’ve been poor for 18 months before this run, sorry for not changing my mind so quickly. we really haven't. we finished 7th last season, which is about par, despite the injuries and extra fixtures. our start to the season stuttered but at no point was eddie's role ever under threat. he's done an unbelievable job for us and rightly has huge amounts of credit in the bank with the owners and supporters - there was never likely to be knee-jerk reaction, other than among a few gobshites online. the fans in the stadium still back him to the hilt - we are lucky to have him. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35910 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 7 minutes ago, ewerk said: The simplest way to judge performance is to compare finishing positions against wage bill. We're not doing too badly on that front. I know but compared to the glory years in the 20 years or so before Howe arrived, finishing 7th is POOR 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22509 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago 9 minutes ago, ewerk said: The simplest way to judge performance is to compare finishing positions against wage bill. We're not doing too badly on that front. man u 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10387 Posted 23 hours ago Share Posted 23 hours ago (edited) 6 minutes ago, Alex said: I know but compared to the glory years in the 20 years or so before Howe arrived, finishing 7th is POOR Exactly this, we have the potential to reach the "safe from relegation" 40 points in two games time, by mid January, not so long ago we we're sweating on beating it with two games to go. Mid fucking January !!!! Edited 23 hours ago by Toonpack 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10790 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 21 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: we really haven't. we finished 7th last season, which is about par, despite the injuries and extra fixtures. our start to the season stuttered but at no point was eddie's role ever under threat. he's done an unbelievable job for us and rightly has huge amounts of credit in the bank with the owners and supporters - there was never likely to be knee-jerk reaction, other than among a few gobshites online. the fans in the stadium still back him to the hilt - we are lucky to have him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11798 Posted 22 hours ago Share Posted 22 hours ago 28 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Exactly this, we have the potential to reach the "safe from relegation" 40 points in two games time, by mid January, not so long ago we we're sweating on beating it with two games to go. Mid fucking January !!!! Maybe the name should be STA? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 7787 Posted 21 hours ago Share Posted 21 hours ago 5 hours ago, Rayvin said: I've been thinking that too. Done! Thanks @Rayvin, you're a good lass. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22509 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago it is kind of embarrassing having this thread on here given everybody is opposed to the notion other than the thread-starter. i'll post a rival thread, so this one will hopefully die off and disappear and we won't give people the wrong idea about the board consensus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christmas Tree 4920 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: it is kind of embarrassing having this thread on here given everybody is opposed to the notion other than the thread-starter. i'll post a rival thread, so this one will hopefully die off and disappear and we won't give people the wrong idea about the board consensus Or we could just change the name and lock it? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21456 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 4 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said: Or we could just change the name and lock it and ban the WUM? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1299 Posted 20 hours ago Author Share Posted 20 hours ago @Rayvin Dont listen to these fascists, keep free speech alive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22509 Posted 20 hours ago Share Posted 20 hours ago 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47036 Posted 19 hours ago Share Posted 19 hours ago This thread will never die as long as we have dickheads that want to shame the OP. Which is to say, this thread will never die. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5571 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 5 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: @Rayvin is this an old man thing? The complete inability to accept someone has a different opinion to yourself? How come you’re an outlier? You must be a young fella. Honestly I changed the thread title mostly for the fun of it, but I do feel a bit bad about the idea that Howe or any of the players might stumble across this place and see that title, as if it's something that the majority of the board or fans are actively supporting. I know you have your views on this but the question isn't really about who is right at this point, it's about what the majority view is across the fanbase - which I think you'd have to say is supportive of Howe. As for the wider post - I'm 39 so read into that your own appraisal of young or old - but I do believe in and enjoy a wide range of views. And I do think this place can become quite hostile at outlier opinions at times. THAT SAID, you really don't make it easy on yourself by also refusing to acknowledge changes in form or outcomes. I think you'd get a far easier time on here if you occasionally took it on the chin and said 'yeah you know what, I did love ASM but Gordon is genuinely a very very good player'. Same for Howe concerning this thread. It's ok for our positions to change, no one on here has been infallible on predicting things. I know next to fuck all about football compared to most of them, probably including you (you do seem to have a fairly good sense for stats and I enjoyed that loan thread you ran for a while) but I still throw my alcohol fueled top 4 predictions into the mix at times And if/when I'm wrong, oh well. Look at Gemmill on Everton ffs. Every wrong judgement the man hands down only seems to make him more confident in the next one. I have at times been the 'Politics Chat' version of you. So I get it. But the key to it isn't to lose credibility fighting the lost causes, it's to own those but to sit there in smug satisfaction on the times you call it right All of this is intended warmly, btw. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5571 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 3 hours ago, OTF said: Thanks @Rayvin, you're a good lass. I'm not gonna overwrite it again since LTA seems to be affronted by it, but yeah I see Gloom has made a new one anyway so I guess things just settle where they will. I tried! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31583 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Chez Given didn't die during a botched champagne enema for this sort of wishy washy, pally moderation. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22509 Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Champagne enema remains one of the most ridiculously absurd things I’ve read about on here - amid some tough competition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4370 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Some achievement to drive Rayvin power-mad @Rayvin I think the poll at the top will clear up any heartbreak Eddie might suffer if he wanders on here 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 47036 Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago I'm not even gonna push for an apology for those comments about me from Rayvin. I'm just gonna float the idea and it'll get the better of him. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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