Eddie's Barn Door worrying mags v Dummy-Spitter Lego Head's "long suffering" Crybabies

[aimaad22 4690]

Lets get past Woods' Forrest before getting carried away.

 

Also, we wont be signing anyone again unless Miggy and Wilson decide to finally bugger off.

Edited November 3, 2024 by aimaad22

[Holden McGroin 7625]

We’ll need to get our away form going if we challenge the top 6.

 

We were back to our powerful best while being hard to break down in the last two games. A throwback to 2 years ago. 

[RobinRobin 12486]

13 hours ago, PaddockLad said:

This re naming is one of the many reasons long time admirer is in my top 5 TT posters (current rosta only, obvs) 

 

 

Semi-permanent, then?  

[David Kelly 1340]

22 hours ago, GrahamTaylor5 said:

 

I think I am in the minority of 1 who thinks that Longstaff offers us something when he plays. I don't think he is a Bruno, Joelinton or Tonali but I still think, although limited, he is an asset. 

 

I've found it very odd that so many of our supporters were expecting Tonali to come straight back into the team and replace Longstaff and that the midfield three of Bruno, Joelinton and Tonali was suddenly going to be superb.  It wasn't last season before Tonali's ban and it's been exactly the same this.  I'm not saying it will never work, but so far Howe hasn't worked out how.  If nothing else Longstaff clearly offers us more balance at the moment.  He's not as competent on the ball as the other players we can play in the midfield three but he does the dirty work to allow the others to play.  He's been superb this week and he's definitely an asset.  

[Dazzler 11820]

1 minute ago, David Kelly said:

I've found it very odd that so many of our supporters were expecting Tonali to come straight back into the team and replace Longstaff and that the midfield three of Bruno, Joelinton and Tonali was suddenly going to be superb.  It wasn't last season before Tonali's ban and it's been exactly the same this.  I'm not saying it will never work, but so far Howe hasn't worked out how.  If nothing else Longstaff clearly offers us more balance at the moment.  He's not as competent on the ball as the other players we can play in the midfield three but he does the dirty work to allow the others to play.  He's been superb this week and he's definitely an asset.  

Bruno and Tonali do largely the same job and occupy the same spaces. I think they always seem to get in each other's way. If we're going to play both together then it has to be Longstaff in there with them as he does the dirty shit that allows them to push further up and dictate play. 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

48 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

I've found it very odd that so many of our supporters were expecting Tonali to come straight back into the team and replace Longstaff and that the midfield three of Bruno, Joelinton and Tonali was suddenly going to be superb.  It wasn't last season before Tonali's ban and it's been exactly the same this.  I'm not saying it will never work, but so far Howe hasn't worked out how.  If nothing else Longstaff clearly offers us more balance at the moment.  He's not as competent on the ball as the other players we can play in the midfield three but he does the dirty work to allow the others to play.  He's been superb this week and he's definitely an asset.  

 

i can see bruno and tonali working as a "double pivot" in a 4-2-3-1, but i don't see much evidence that howe want to switch systems. 

 

if howe sticks with the present formation, tonali did enough against chelsea to suggest he could work as the "single pivot" with bruno occupying the more advanced "number 8" role he performed so well that half season after he first signed. 

 

longstaff is a valuable squad player and is a great option for certain games - particularly against the likes of arsenal, man city or liverpool, when we're not going to have as much of the ball - his running stats, off-ball work cutting out passing lanes and pressing is all great. 

 

our problem hasn't been playing against team that attack us and leave space in behind, it's been breaking down stubborn defences that sit deep. howe has to find a way to get bruno and tonali functioning in those games - we need your more technical players to unlock low block defences and longstaff, for all his qualities, isn't one of those players. 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[wykikitoon 22901]

Longstaff has been great last couple of games breaking up opposition play.  But going forward he's been up there with Miggy at destroying any hope of creating or scoring a goal.  Some of his passing has been criminal.

[Gemmill 49974]

26 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i can see bruno and tonali working as a "double pivot" in a 4-2-3-1, but i don't see much evidence that howe want to switch systems. 

 

if howe sticks with the present formation, tonali did enough against chelsea to suggest he could work as the "single pivot" with bruno occupying the more advanced "number 8" role he performed so well that half season after he first signed. 

 

longstaff is a valuable squad player and is a great option for certain games - particularly against the likes of arsenal, man city or liverpool, when we're not going to have as much of the ball - his running stats, off-ball work cutting out passing lanes and pressing is all great. 

 

our problem hasn't been playing against team that attack us and leave space in behind, it's been breaking down stubborn defences that sit deep. howe has to find a way to get bruno and tonali functioning in those games - we need your more technical players to unlock low block defences and longstaff, for all his qualities, isn't one of those players. 

 

 

YOU'RE a double pivot, MATE. 

[Toonpack 11370]

14 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Longstaff has been great last couple of games breaking up opposition play.  But going forward he's been up there with Miggy at destroying any hope of creating or scoring a goal.  Some of his passing has been criminal.

 

Apart from his pass that laid it on a plate for Gordon to hit the cross, first time, for the goal, obviously.

[wykikitoon 22901]

Just now, Toonpack said:

 

Apart from his pass that laid it on a plate for Gordon to hit the cross, first time, for the goal, obviously.

Hence some  

[Dr Gloom 23642]

16 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

YOU'RE a double pivot, MATE. 

 

you can shove that comment up your single pivot 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

and less of the lip, or i'll be forced to low block you 

[Toonpack 11370]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

and less of the lip, or i'll be forced to low block you 

 

You Sir have been deposed, you have zero authority to sanction anyone. Shouldn't you have fucked off to the Duchy of wherever and be ripping off charities or some such ???

[Dr Gloom 23642]

25 minutes ago, Toonpack said:

 

You Sir have been deposed, you have zero authority to sanction anyone. Shouldn't you have fucked off to the Duchy of wherever and be ripping off charities or some such ???

the king is dead. Long live the king 

[spongebob toonpants 4361]

First chance I've had to watch the game and having Willock playing like that makes such a difference the whole team. He works so well with big Joe on the left  and makes him play so much better 

With Longstaff between the defence and midfield and Willock linking mid and attack we seemed much more joined up as a unit

It would be glorious if Gordon works on the right, team seems so much more balanced

Full backs were great, so much potential there

Hopefully exciting times ahead

 

Edited November 4, 2024 by spongebob toonpants
Left right who can tell the difference

[David Kelly 1340]

3 hours ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

i can see bruno and tonali working as a "double pivot" in a 4-2-3-1, but i don't see much evidence that howe want to switch systems. 

 

if howe sticks with the present formation, tonali did enough against chelsea to suggest he could work as the "single pivot" with bruno occupying the more advanced "number 8" role he performed so well that half season after he first signed. 

 

longstaff is a valuable squad player and is a great option for certain games - particularly against the likes of arsenal, man city or liverpool, when we're not going to have as much of the ball - his running stats, off-ball work cutting out passing lanes and pressing is all great. 

 

our problem hasn't been playing against team that attack us and leave space in behind, it's been breaking down stubborn defences that sit deep. howe has to find a way to get bruno and tonali functioning in those games - we need your more technical players to unlock low block defences and longstaff, for all his qualities, isn't one of those players. 

I always thought Tonali had been brought in to provide the extra quality to allow us to break teams down when we're having more of the ball.  So far it hasn't really worked mainly because it seems that Bruno is playing in the space that he seems to be looking to get into.  I'm not sure how we change that but that certainly has to be what Howe is working on.  If we get those two playing as a pair it would allow so many different options with the other three (and even Miley).  I'm not sure how we do it at the moment though because what you would think would be the obvious way round it hasn't been happening.  

[aimaad22 4690]

Longstaff was brilliant on Saturday. But let's not get carried away, he has been dogshit for most of the season (not the only one though admittedly). Him, Bruno, Joe, Willock, Isak all raised their games and therefore we won reasonable comfortably. If the team truly has gotten it's mojo back then Longstaff will continue to play an important role as others have outlined. But should things get a little difficult again and we need to do something a little different, be more creative for instance then his limitations will be on full display again. 

 

Yeah Bruno/Tonali is a difficult one. From Eddie's interviews, he focuses on Tonali's flexibility so you think he's not quite yet figured out where his best position is. Also says Bruno's style is suited to deep lying possession, and Tonali's is more athletic. All of which makes sense and indicated the thinking still is for Bruno to be the holding man and Tonali to take up the box to box role. 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

24 minutes ago, David Kelly said:

I always thought Tonali had been brought in to provide the extra quality to allow us to break teams down when we're having more of the ball.  So far it hasn't really worked mainly because it seems that Bruno is playing in the space that he seems to be looking to get into.  I'm not sure how we change that but that certainly has to be what Howe is working on.  If we get those two playing as a pair it would allow so many different options with the other three (and even Miley).  I'm not sure how we do it at the moment though because what you would think would be the obvious way round it hasn't been happening.  

 

If he's wedded to 4-3-3, and it looks like he is, he could use Tonali as the DM, freeing Bruno up to get further forwards. Tonali's best game for us by far was the league cup game against Chelsea where he occupied the deeper, more central role in front of the back four. Bruno is great in that position too but he also showed he can play the more advanced role to great effect when he first signed in a way that Tonali hasn't really done yet. That's what I'd do against forest:

 

Bruno----Tonali---Willock

Gordon---Isak---Joelinton 

 

I can see there are also games where Sean is a good option in the right sided number 8 role - he was great against Arsenal on Saturday - but he isn't the answer in those games where we're dominating possession and the opposition park the bus. 

Edited November 4, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[Kid Dynamite 7638]

On 03/11/2024 at 12:23, LongTimeAdmirer said:

 

What a terrible tweet, he scored 11 goals and 10 assists LAST season across 48 games. 

 

1 goal from open play this season and the last game was his first assist. Were in November. You children can keep trying to change the post to last season, the topic is this season.

 

 

You said he was shite all last season too

[Dazzler 11820]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

If he's wedded to 4-3-3, and it looks like he is, he could use Tonali as the DM, freeing Bruno up to get further forwards. Tonali's best game for us by far was the league cup game against Chelsea where he occupied the deeper, more central role in front of the back four. Bruno is great in that position too but he also showed he can play the more advanced role to great effect when he first signed in a way that Tonali hasn't really done yet. That's what I'd do against forest:

 

Bruno----Tonali---Willock

Gordon---Isak---Joelinton 

 

I can see there are also games where Sean is a good option in the right sided number 8 role - he was great against Arsenal on Saturday - but he isn't the answer in those games where we're dominating possession and the opposition park the bus. 

Tonali isn’t a DM though and we’d lose too much from his game. I think we either need to tell longstaff that all he does now is defensive shit (which he’s really good at) or we have to buy a proper CDM so that Tonali and Bruno can work together (or both).

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Dazzler said:

Tonali isn’t a DM though and we’d lose too much from his game. I think we either need to tell longstaff that all he does now is defensive shit (which he’s really good at) or we have to buy a proper CDM so that Tonali and Bruno can work together (or both).

 

that's what i thought too, but he looked great in that role against chelsea

[Dazzler 11820]

2 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

You said he was shite all last season too

He and/or she also said Foden was shite too. At some point the “young and stupid” defence put forward of his and/or her bullshit has to be replaced with “daft cunt WUM”.

 

[aimaad22 4690]

6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

If he's wedded to 4-3-3, and it looks like he is, he could use Tonali as the DM, freeing Bruno up to get further forwards. Tonali's best game for us by far was the league cup game against Chelsea where he occupied the deeper, more central role in front of the back four. Bruno is great in that position too but he also showed he can play the more advanced role to great effect when he first signed in a way that Tonali hasn't really done yet. That's what I'd do against forest:

 

Bruno----Tonali---Willock

Gordon---Isak---Joelinton 

 

I can see there are also games where Sean is a good option in the right sided number 8 role - he was great against Arsenal on Saturday - but he isn't the answer in those games where we're dominating possession and the opposition park the bus. 

 

Eddie hinted in the interview before Arsenal that he deosn't really see Bruno as the midfielder playing higher up, hinted you need someone faster/bigger engine to make the recovery runs and Bruno's strength is in posession.  

[Holden McGroin 7625]

He’ll play the same team v Forest.

[PaddockLad 19013]

2 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said:

He’ll play the same team v Forest.

Yep. And people should stop fretting about Tonali, the fuckin paddy power enabled cunt. Am telling you, he’s Viana with A levels and a 2020’s fitness coach