Howe’s squad rotating league cup champions elect v Gemmill’s premier league survival specialists

[Dr Gloom 21912]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

The manager wanted Guehi. 

 

It's not PSR "to a point", it's PSR. The manager has been backed. Framing it as a failure to back the manager is just plain wrong. 

Of course we’re constrained by PSR but there was money to spend in the summer. I don’t know who is to blame for the failure to improve the areas of the squad that needed it most but it’s hard to imagine Osula was Howe’s first choice. Maybe Howe’s to blame and he’s the one who thinks he can get enough games out of Wilson and we can afford to carry a development player in the squad.
 

I don’t know. What I do know is if we have proper cf on the pitch yesterday we win. Something’s gone wrong with the recruitment when the only option is a converted winger and the manager doesn’t fancy the only natural cf on the bench. We should have loaned him out if Howe doesn’t trust him to use him off the bench in a game like yesterday 

[Gemmill 44804]

1 minute ago, ewerk said:

He was playing as our main striker. He missed three gilt edged chances, a striker can’t have had a good game after doing that. 

 

And yet he somehow did. It's almost as if you're completely wrong. 

[ewerk 30545]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

Of course we’re constrained by PSR but there was money to spend in the summer. I don’t know who is to blame for the failure to improve the areas of the squad that needed it most but it’s hard to imagine Osula was Howe’s first choice. Maybe Howe’s to blame and he’s the one who thinks he can get enough games out of Wilson and we can afford to carry a development player in the squad.
 

I don’t know. What I do know is if we have proper cf on the pitch yesterday we win. Something’s gone wrong with the recruitment when the only option is a converted winger and the manager doesn’t fancy the only natural cf on the bench. We should have loaned him out if Howe doesn’t trust him to use him off the bench in a game like yesterday 

If Wilson was fit during the summer he would have been shipped out. But as he was injured he was unsellable which meant we couldn’t get anyone else in of a decent standard. That’s not anyone’s fault.

[wykikitoon 20112]

16 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

I don’t blame Gordon btw. It’s not his fault. He’s a winger, not a CF. It’s failure to back Howe in the last couple of windows that’s costing us. We don’t have enough depth across the front line. We’re stacked at LW but rely on two injury prone CFs with a kid in reserve who the manager doesn’t trust yet and no top class RW. 

You literally are blaming Gordon for costing us two points 😂

[Dr Gloom 21912]

Just now, Gemmill said:

 

And yet he somehow did. It's almost as if you're completely wrong. 

If Pope had a good game but let in a howler that costs us two points you say would say he had a stinker. Gordon had that game as a cf yesterday 

[ewerk 30545]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

And yet he somehow did. It's almost as if you're completely wrong. 

He was playing as a striker, he’s supposed to score goals.

 

[Dr Gloom 21912]

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

You literally are blaming Gordon for costing us two points 😂

He did cost us two points but I don’t blame

him for being played out of position. He’s not a centre forward. 
 

[Gemmill 44804]

Are you two posting this shite from the same Internet café? 

[ewerk 30545]

Just now, Dr Gloom said:

He did cost us two points but I don’t blame

him for being played out of position. He’s not a centre forward. 
 

He’s not a CF so we can’t expect him to score a penalty? This is some gaslighting bullshit.

[toonotl 2977]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Gordon worked his arse off yesterday and pressed well but his finishing cost us two points. He has to convert one of those chances man. 

 

This. If your performance costs the team points then that needs to be taken into account when evaluating the performance.

 

Gordon, for all the positive aspects of his performance, cost us points by spurning several absolutely golden opportunities to score.

 

He didn't hide. He kept trying. The effort was exemplary. But when it came to the crunch, he bottled it -- three times.

 

In many many instances that had limited influence on the outcome of the game, Gordon did well. In three instances when he had a clear chance to win the game, he did horribly. For me, the former does not even come close to negating the latter.

[ewerk 30545]

1 minute ago, toonotl said:

 

This. If your performance costs the team points then that needs to be taken into account when evaluating the performance.

 

Gordon, for all the positive aspects of his performance, cost us points by spurning several absolutely golden opportunities to score.

 

He didn't hide. He kept trying. The effort was exemplary. But when it came to the crunch, he bottled it -- three times.

 

In many many instances that had limited influence on the outcome of the game, Gordon did well. In three instances when he had a clear chance to win the game, he did horribly. For me, the former does not even come close to negating the latter.

[Dr Gloom 21912]

Just now, ewerk said:

He’s not a CF so we can’t expect him to score a penalty? This is some gaslighting bullshit.

I think the occasion of scoring against his old club got in his head for the pen. he looked nervous af walking up and totally telegraphed where he was going to put it 

[PaddockLad 17239]

8 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

You literally are blaming Gordon for costing us two points 😂

[toonotl 2977]

This debate reminds me of Karius' MotM performance in the CL final. Apart from stopping goals, he was brilliant. Played some wonderful passes and looked hot as fuck while doing it.

[Gemmill 44804]

The Madness of King Gloom. ewerk as the court jester. 

[thebrokendoll 9188]

2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

Of course we’re constrained by PSR but there was money to spend in the summer. I don’t know who is to blame for the failure to improve the areas of the squad that needed it most but it’s hard to imagine Osula was Howe’s first choice. Maybe Howe’s to blame and he’s the one who thinks he can get enough games out of Wilson and we can afford to carry a development player in the squad.
 

I don’t know. What I do know is if we have proper cf on the pitch yesterday we win. Something’s gone wrong with the recruitment when the only option is a converted winger and the manager doesn’t fancy the only natural cf on the bench. We should have loaned him out if Howe doesn’t trust him to use him off the bench in a game like yesterday 

 

sure I read osula was somebody tindal had worked with and highly rated.

anyway, we've managed to make isak look a million mile away from the world class striker we know he is.

wilson is a waste of fucking squad number and we failed to provide the 3rd choice striker with a single opportunity against 4th division opposition or don't bother playing the fucker at all.

sack howe.

[Gemmill 44804]

toonotl auditioning for some kind of Baldrick role. 

 

Anyone else?

[Gemmill 44804]

5 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

sure I read osula was somebody tindal had worked with and highly rated.

anyway, we've managed to make isak look a million mile away from the world class striker we know he is.

wilson is a waste of fucking squad number and we failed to provide the 3rd choice striker with a single opportunity against 4th division opposition or don't bother playing the fucker at all.

sack howe.

 

 

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

2 hours ago, LongTimeAdmirer said:

Gordon best player? Playing in the middle, which in his words, he considers his best position.

Missed a penalty, missed the one on one, missed the free header

.... but oh he raaaaaan around a lot... definitely best player...

 

Farken hell, English bias in full effect. 

Bore off man. It wasn't funny last year. It's just fucking annoying now 

[thebrokendoll 9188]

5 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

 

 

 

be lucky to finish top half this season, act now before it's too late....

 

[LongTimeAdmirer 1256]

13 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said:

Bore off man. It wasn't funny last year. It's just fucking annoying now 

Multiple people have said he had a stinker but I’m the only you’re mouthing off at? Piss of and block me you muppet. He was 💩 , end of.

Edited October 6 by LongTimeAdmirer

[Dr Gloom 21912]

28 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

The Madness of King Gloom. ewerk as the court jester. 

Gemmill, meanwhile…

 

[sammynb 3355]

The commentary here, Optus Sport, was Martin (fuck off and retire) Tyler and Jim (somehow he gets work as an expert pundit) Beglin and to be fair to our teenage girl forum member, they kept talking about how AG10 was allegedly telling people he though CF was his best/favoured position.

Why anyone would believe that pair of twats, I do not know but it happens.

 

For quite a while now we have looked ineffective in the final third. Isak's ability to finish the few chances he gets, has dug us out of the hole for the last season or so, this season he has had less opportunities and a worse conversion rate but without him, we are even worse.

As @NJS said, I too hate it when we make T-Rex the hero. Is there something actually mentally lacking with him? The way he points and waves the hands on his little arms about, all the time is fucking weird.

 

Scouse makems are a banana skin for us for many reasons, you know who you all are, at least we got out of there with a point and all the wheels still on the team bus.

[strawb 4247]

Hes 29 until he’s 30, that’s how it works

[Dazzler 9716]

1 hour ago, toonotl said:

This debate reminds me of Karius' MotM performance in the CL final. Apart from stopping goals, he was brilliant. Played some wonderful passes and looked hot as fuck while doing it.

The criticism Karius got after that game was fucking way over the top. So in that regard you’re absolutely correct.

 

Fucking appalling take otherwise.