Fulham Fumblers vs. Newcastle Nest Invaders

[Dazzler 9716]

2 minutes ago, wykikitoon said:

Shaving that blonde hair would be a start. He’s always shite as a blonde.

 

Also, not sure he’s comfortable with the armband. Give it Burny til end of t’season.

 

 

[Holden McGroin 6581]

1 minute ago, Dazzler said:

Shaving that blonde hair would be a start. He’s always shite as a blonde.

 

Also, not sure he’s comfortable with the armband. Give it Burny til end of t’season.

 

 

nah. He is good for the captaincy.just a bad day at the office. Burn has been good this season but I hope Kelly might get a shot at CB. No chance of Eddie dropping him though.

[Christmas Tree 4725]

The worry for me is that Howe seems to have no idea how to get this team working again. We’ve looked a shadow of our former selves for far too long.

 

We can pick out individual players to criticise each week, but in fairness we have been pretty poor all year regardless of who the scapegoat of the week was.

 

The intensity’s gone, the press has gone, we can’t string passes together and opposing players go through our midfield like a knife through butter.

 

Im not anti Howe, but the excuses are wearing thin and he needs a new plan / formation. He’s looking and sounding a bit lost at the moment and we could easily be sitting here with zero points given the way the games have gone.

[OTF 7295]

1 minute ago, Christmas Tree said:

The worry for me is that Howe seems to have no idea how to get this team working again. We’ve looked a shadow of our former selves for far too long.

 

We can pick out individual players to criticise each week, but in fairness we have been pretty poor all year regardless of who the scapegoat of the week was.

 

The intensity’s gone, the press has gone, we can’t string passes together and opposing players go through our midfield like a knife through butter.

 

Im not anti Howe, but the excuses are wearing thin and he needs a new plan / formation. He’s looking and sounding a bit lost at the moment and we could easily be sitting here with zero points given the way the games have gone.

 

This is a bit dramatic but the sentiment is right, our deficiencies are not entirely down to individual poor performances (of which there has been many). There appears to be some sort of complacency or general lack of willingness to contually work hard for each other out on the pitch. It's more evident with certain players but it doesn't happen to so many at once without there being a more central reason. If the heart of the team is gone there's a degree of speculation but it's most likely to be related to the shift in management (CEO, Sporting Director etc) which includes the departure of Amanda Staveley and Mehrdad Ghodoussi. There's no way to walk that back so it needs to be forward fixed behind the scenes. We can only hope that this happens because it currently stinks watching our football club play.

[Holden McGroin 6581]

16 minutes ago, Christmas Tree said:

The worry for me is that Howe seems to have no idea how to get this team working again. We’ve looked a shadow of our former selves for far too long.

 

We can pick out individual players to criticise each week, but in fairness we have been pretty poor all year regardless of who the scapegoat of the week was.

 

The intensity’s gone, the press has gone, we can’t string passes together and opposing players go through our midfield like a knife through butter.

 

Im not anti Howe, but the excuses are wearing thin and he needs a new plan / formation. He’s looking and sounding a bit lost at the moment and we could easily be sitting here with zero points given the way the games have gone.

im going to stick by my theory that the fitness bloke is interfering with the players intensity in training. I think it’s causing a divide between coaching staff and Mitchell/training bloke.

 

 

[Gemmill 44804]

Howe was pretty gushing in his praise of Bunce at last week's press conference. And this current rot had set in long before Bunce turned up. 

 

Your theory doesn't hold water. 

[OTF 7295]

14 minutes ago, Gemmill said:

Howe was pretty gushing in his praise of Bunce at last week's press conference. And this current rot had set in long before Bunce turned up. 

 

Your theory doesn't hold water. 

Yup, it's attitudinal not cardiovascular. 

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

Some minging individual errors yesterday mind

 

 

[Holden McGroin 6581]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

Howe was pretty gushing in his praise of Bunce at last week's press conference. And this current rot had set in long before Bunce turned up. 

 

Your theory doesn't hold water. 

What did he say ?

[Gemmill 44804]

Can't remember exactly cos it was two weeks ago but I posted on here at the time that he was full of praise. It was dead early on in the press conference before last if you want to watch it though. 

 

Was basically journalists trying to pull at the Mitchell thread and Howe shut it down with his praise for the bloke. 

[Ayatollah Hermione 13857]

Not having Tonali looking good when he came on either. He overhit a simple ball down the line to Murphy by about 15 yards and he was under no pressure. Nobody comes out of this looking good 

[OTF 7295]

5 minutes ago, Ayatollah Hermione said:

Not having Tonali looking good when he came on either. He overhit a simple ball down the line to Murphy by about 15 yards and he was under no pressure. Nobody comes out of this looking good 

One bad pass, nowhere near 15 yards over and it's much better over hitting a pass than under like Bruno currently is with multiple balls (included the attempted pass to Livramento that setup their third).

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

4 minutes ago, OTF said:

One bad pass, nowhere near 15 yards over and it's much better over hitting a pass than under like Bruno currently is with multiple balls (included the attempted pass to Livramento that setup their third).

He didn't underhit the pass, he just chose the worst of 3 options to him and even managed to cock that one up 

[Christmas Tree 4725]

We can’t do much about the personnel til end of Jan so a new formation might suit us better. Beef up the midfield with someone taking the 6 role and moving Bruno further forward where he can cause damage.

 

Can Tonali play 6

[OTF 7295]

1 hour ago, Kid Dynamite said:

He didn't underhit the pass, he just chose the worst of 3 options to him and even managed to cock that one up 

He was trying a crossfield pass to Livramento and totally shanked it.

[Ayatollah Hermione 13857]

2 hours ago, OTF said:

One bad pass, nowhere near 15 yards over and it's much better over hitting a pass than under like Bruno currently is with multiple balls (included the attempted pass to Livramento that setup their third).

Mate, I want him to start as well but he did absolutely nowt to help us get a grip on the midfield 

[aimaad22 4156]

Starting Tonali won't magically solve our midfield problems, I just thought he looked less terrified of the ball than others yesterday. 

 

Honestly can't put my finger on what's wrong with Joe and Bruno this season. Or the rest of the team really. Just hope Howe can figure it out soon. 

 

Our upcoming fixture list is pretty tough too. 

[Gemmill 44804]

I do wonder if the players aren't becoming increasingly disillusioned with the trajectory of the club. We've been plateauing for a little while now. 

 

I mean, it's PSR, and there's not much can be done about it, but that's not really their problem. 

[The Mighty Hog 518]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

I do wonder if the players aren't becoming increasingly disillusioned with the trajectory of the club. We've been plateauing for a little while now. 

 

I mean, it's PSR, and there's not much can be done about it, but that's not really their problem. 

 

Off the pitch as well. The hype has died a bit, no exciting announcements for the training ground still or the stadium. The report on the latter has been coming soon for months.

[PaddockLad 17241]

Sometimes a manager just stops having the same effect. We might have to accept that could have happened. Bruno took the corresponding fixture (less than six months ago) last season by the scruff of the neck and drove/dragged us to a win. We haven’t strengthened and Fulham did. But from what I can make out that didn’t happen yesterday….its not on him alone and  apparently he’s getting it in the neck in Brazil too… but the difference is marked, despite 2(?) assists this season..

 

 

Edited September 22 by PaddockLad

[Isegrim 9761]

It seems a confidence thing to me. The whole club is surrounded by negativity again thanks to our own making. Neither the lack of transfers nor Howe‘s public comments have been of great help tbh.

[Howmanheyman 33121]

I blame....

 

[Kid Dynamite 7025]

2 hours ago, Gemmill said:

I do wonder if the players aren't becoming increasingly disillusioned with the trajectory of the club. We've been plateauing for a little while now. 

 

I mean, it's PSR, and there's not much can be done about it, but that's not really their problem. 

PSR can only take so much blame. We were trying to chuck £65mil at Guehi, so there was clearly money to spend if needed, and we ended up with zero additions to the first team

[Gemmill 44804]

Nah I'm talking about players that were promised titles within 5 years and have basically seen that ambition meet the brick wall of PSR. 

 

Spending £65m in the summer wouldn't have got us any closer to titles. 

[toonotl 2977]

Wasn't there a story about the players being disgruntled at the start of last season because the bonuses for qualifying for the CL were not paid on time or something?

 

I wonder if there is a similar dispute going on behind the scenes this season, particularly as the team sorta qualified for Europe, at least in terms of final league position, if not for the sheer fuckery of ManU pulling a performance from their ass to win the FA Cup. The strangeness of the situation could've led to further uncertainty about bonuses paid for performance similar to last season. Pure speculation, of course, I can't even remember the details of the CL bonuses situation and even if it was true or not.

 

Anyway, there does seem to be something wrong with the performances of a large part of the playing group that is difficult to explain without some sort of external problem. This seems a very unlikely situation but it's possible, I guess, if we're searching for an explanation.

 

And just while we're throwing out speculative ideas, perhaps the "easy" start to the season has had a bit of a negative effect on the mentality of the playing group. It wouldn't be the first time a team has thought they just need to show up to get results. Howe has the "there are no easy games in this league" mantra on repeat in press conferences, which suggests it is a slogan used behind the scenes too. But players are players and if they're even 1% off in terms of attitude then it's the difference of night and day, especially with our tactics demanding an extreme level of bravery and gusto to be effective. If this is the case, which I hope it is as the fix has just arrived, a loss to an lower rated team should be precisely the tonic required to wake the team up a bit.