The Fish 11044 Posted Monday at 13:32 Share Posted Monday at 13:32 4 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: Yeah. But a trophy + 2nd place makes him hard to sack at the end of the season. Ask Sir Jim Ratcliffe for details I don't think there's any appetite to sack him. Pep is surely, SURELY, fucking off at the end of this season. That leaves a giant chasm to fill and Arteta is one of the managers better positioned to fill it. He's got form for this sort of thing. After banging your mam! Heyoooohhhhhh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11044 Posted Monday at 13:35 Share Posted Monday at 13:35 2 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I would absolutely love it if City somehow caught them. The reaction, fume, uproar, would be beautiful. Especially if it was down to a dodgy penalty awarded to Man City against, ohhhh lets say Everton. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10309 Posted Monday at 13:39 Share Posted Monday at 13:39 5 minutes ago, The Fish said: I don't think there's any appetite to sack him. Pep is surely, SURELY, fucking off at the end of this season. That leaves a giant chasm to fill and Arteta is one of the managers better positioned to fill it. He's got form for this sort of thing. After banging your mam! Heyoooohhhhhh Pep signed an extension, two more years. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17906 Posted Monday at 13:50 Share Posted Monday at 13:50 15 minutes ago, The Fish said: I don't think there's any appetite to sack him. Pep is surely, SURELY, fucking off at the end of this season. That leaves a giant chasm to fill and Arteta is one of the managers better positioned to fill it. He's got form for this sort of thing. After banging your mam! Heyoooohhhhhh I think a day out at Wembley with the possibility of a final v Liverpool or their local rivals would see enough credit in the bank for him if they were to win it…ability to win important one off games is of the utmost importance. So your dear mother suggests in her latest correspondence…. (Am I doing this right? ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6876 Posted Monday at 13:58 Share Posted Monday at 13:58 1 hour ago, PaddockLad said: Well I think we’re all of that opinion. No one has really addressed our weakened side though, or the near absolute fuckin necessity for Arteta to win a trophy very soon for the sake of his own job… for that reason alone I think there’s a chance they’ll play a strong side and try to put the tie to bed as best they can tomorrow night, not to mention their fixture list with two champions league games at the end of January. If they do try to go for it then I think they’re ripe for being hit on the counter and it’ll make for a very competitive and watchable game. But with a half fit Sven or the fairly average Kelly in our back line coupled with the signs of fatigue shown in the 57 minute second half on Saturday then for me it’s going to very be tricky to get a servicable outcome… a draw would be a fuckin great result… We are 3 points off being in 8th. Things can easily swing around and the law of averages say we can't keeping winning every week. We have Wolves, Bournemouth, Southampton and Fulham. A great opportunity to put the after burners on but there is no chance we'll win all of them. That would be 9 league games on the spin, 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11044 Posted Monday at 14:07 Share Posted Monday at 14:07 27 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Pep signed an extension, two more years. And, as we know, contracts in football are signed in blood, never to be broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11044 Posted Monday at 14:16 Share Posted Monday at 14:16 22 minutes ago, PaddockLad said: I think a day out at Wembley with the possibility of a final v Liverpool or their local rivals would see enough credit in the bank for him if they were to win it…ability to win important one off games is of the utmost importance. So your dear mother suggests in her latest correspondence…. (Am I doing this right? ) As long as we keep within a goal of them, I'd fancy us to get past them at SJP. I also think that Arteta's eyes will be on the Champions League, staying as close to Liverpool as possible in the league, and the more prestigious FA Cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22437 Posted Monday at 14:54 Share Posted Monday at 14:54 2 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Well I think we’re all of that opinion. No one has really addressed our weakened side though, or the near absolute fuckin necessity for Arteta to win a trophy very soon for the sake of his own job… for that reason alone I think there’s a chance they’ll play a strong side and try to put the tie to bed as best they can tomorrow night, not to mention their fixture list with two champions league games at the end of January. If they do try to go for it then I think they’re ripe for being hit on the counter and it’ll make for a very competitive and watchable game. But with a half fit Sven or the fairly average Kelly in our back line coupled with the signs of fatigue shown in the 57 minute second half on Saturday then for me it’s going to very be tricky to get a servicable outcome… a draw would be a fuckin great result… i think odegaard and martinelli are injury doubts for them, plus saka is out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22437 Posted Monday at 14:54 Share Posted Monday at 14:54 56 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: We are 3 points off being in 8th. Things can easily swing around and the law of averages say we can't keeping winning every week. We have Wolves, Bournemouth, Southampton and Fulham. A great opportunity to put the after burners on but there is no chance we'll win all of them. That would be 9 league games on the spin, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31416 Posted Monday at 15:01 Share Posted Monday at 15:01 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: That would be 9 league games on the spin, So what you're saying is... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10309 Posted Monday at 15:40 Share Posted Monday at 15:40 1 hour ago, The Fish said: And, as we know, contracts in football are signed in blood, never to be broken. Well given he was due to walk end of this season and signed his new deal just in November I doubt he’ll break it so soon tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35854 Posted Monday at 15:55 Share Posted Monday at 15:55 1 hour ago, Holden McGroin said: We are 3 points off being in 8th. Things can easily swing around and the law of averages say we can't keeping winning every week. We have Wolves, Bournemouth, Southampton and Fulham. A great opportunity to put the after burners on but there is no chance we'll win all of them. That would be 9 league games on the spin, I think you’ve said a few times we’re a mid-table side. Obviously we’ve got some very good players but the current run skews things. And we know our squad isn’t that deep. Particularly in some very key areas. While we’ve got a chance of CL I think Europa League would be decent. We’ve got no chance of winning the league imo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22437 Posted Monday at 16:19 Share Posted Monday at 16:19 18 minutes ago, Alex said: I think you’ve said a few times we’re a mid-table side. Obviously we’ve got some very good players but the current run skews things. And we know our squad isn’t that deep. Particularly in some very key areas. While we’ve got a chance of CL I think Europa League would be decent. We’ve got no chance of winning the league imo we'd have to win pretty much all of our remaining games to have a chance. even then, it would leave us on 89 points, which isn't always enough. so yeah, probably less than a 1% chance of it happening. this run has put us back in the mix for champions league though, as it will probably the top 5 that qualify this year. i'd say we have a top 4 first team but a midtable squad. if we can steer clear of injuries and add a player or two this month, we can get champions league football again. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46913 Posted Monday at 16:34 Share Posted Monday at 16:34 I think we'll get CL cos of how many of the contenders are having indifferent seasons, and because the games are really gonna pile up for those teams in this second half of the season. Forest are a bit of a worry. If they weren't having the season they're having we'd be a shoo-in for CL. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5494 Posted Monday at 16:39 Share Posted Monday at 16:39 I'm gonna watch the Forest game this evening and try and make an active effort to convince myself that they're shit and will fall away. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35854 Posted Monday at 16:40 Share Posted Monday at 16:40 5 hours ago, Optimistic Nut said: I would absolutely love it if City somehow caught them. The reaction, fume, uproar, would be beautiful. On the final day 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Optimistic Nut 241 Posted Monday at 16:46 Share Posted Monday at 16:46 4 minutes ago, Alex said: On the final day While we relegate Everton and secure CL football. Would beat 96/7 for me. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 21300 Posted Monday at 16:46 Share Posted Monday at 16:46 There's still a LONG way to go in the seson. Let's take it a game at a time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6876 Posted Monday at 17:12 Share Posted Monday at 17:12 1 hour ago, Alex said: I think you’ve said a few times we’re a mid-table side. Obviously we’ve got some very good players but the current run skews things. And we know our squad isn’t that deep. Particularly in some very key areas. While we’ve got a chance of CL I think Europa League would be decent. We’ve got no chance of winning the league imo I think there are a big bunch of teams this year that could go either way (both drop off or be in the hunt for CL spots). A lot will depend on injuries and tiredness. We’ve also managed to finally find the balance in centre midfield and Murphy is currently in a massive purple patch. As PL says though we are an Isak injury away from dropping down a few places. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4325 Posted Monday at 17:14 Share Posted Monday at 17:14 If we keep most of the main players fit we can get CL, especially if 5th gets you that, no idea whats the latest on that UEFA coefficient thing or whatever it's called. Squad depth is obviously the issue with us, especially at CF. Isak gets injured and we're screwed. We're not a mid table side with a fit team though, we're easily CL challengers. Isak and most of our midfield would start for most PL sides, you could argue Hall and Tino are not far off. Botman too when match fit. This is where Tonali, Hall and Gordon have really added value. It's not just Isak and Bruno carrying the team with occasional help from your Miggys and Murphys. There's proper quality across the park now. The positive thing for me now is the team seems to believe that which gives you the ability to put together these runs in between the inevitable hiccups. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 10309 Posted Monday at 17:36 Share Posted Monday at 17:36 49 minutes ago, Optimistic Nut said: While we relegate Everton and secure CL football. Would beat 96/7 for me. We will gift Everton the points that save them, we always do 😔 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35854 Posted Monday at 17:40 Share Posted Monday at 17:40 19 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: I think there are a big bunch of teams this year that could go either way (both drop off or be in the hunt for CL spots). A lot will depend on injuries and tiredness. We’ve also managed to finally find the balance in centre midfield and Murphy is currently in a massive purple patch. As PL says though we are an Isak injury away from dropping down a few places. Yep. It’s funny how seemingly little things can create a big change in form. Tonali looks more comfortable sitting, and that releases Bruno to play further forward where his through balls can cause damage. There’s obviously an increased understanding that comes with that midfield 3 playing together too. What I also like is they’re all happy receiving the ball under pressure which allows better attacking football. Murphy playing well means Gordon can play on his favoured side. And Isak’s form has been discussed loads but it’s not really easy for a central lone striker to influence play much when the team isn’t playing consistently well. I think it’s as much to do with that with Isak as opposed to his playing much better. I do think Murphy is a bit underrated though. Even though he’s obviously in a great bit of form. I always think a lot of people underestimate how much confidence impacts team performances as well. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35854 Posted Monday at 17:43 Share Posted Monday at 17:43 28 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: If we keep most of the main players fit we can get CL, especially if 5th gets you that, no idea whats the latest on that UEFA coefficient thing or whatever it's called. Squad depth is obviously the issue with us, especially at CF. Isak gets injured and we're screwed. We're not a mid table side with a fit team though, we're easily CL challengers. Isak and most of our midfield would start for most PL sides, you could argue Hall and Tino are not far off. Botman too when match fit. This is where Tonali, Hall and Gordon have really added value. It's not just Isak and Bruno carrying the team with occasional help from your Miggys and Murphys. There's proper quality across the park now. The positive thing for me now is the team seems to believe that which gives you the ability to put together these runs in between the inevitable hiccups. England are currently top: https://www.uefa.com/nationalassociations/uefarankings/ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4325 Posted Monday at 17:55 Share Posted Monday at 17:55 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9987 Posted Monday at 18:19 Share Posted Monday at 18:19 https://kassiesa.net/uefa/data/method5/trank2025.html Mind we still have a lot to do when it comes to the club ranking and seeding in case we can get back into European competitions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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