wykikitoon 22870 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 47 minutes ago, Isegrim said: Exactly. People who bank on us doing serious business in January to strengthen our first team will be incredibly disappointed come February. We signed Bruno in Jan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1805 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Aye Wilson needs sacking off asap... And for Mrs Wykikis benefit I want to confirm I said sacking 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Different story making signings that move you away from the relegation zone. A couple of wins get you away from trouble cos no one down there can string two results together. January signings come too late to move you anywhere too far up the league, cos those teams around you also win lots, and they probably don't turn you into a cup winner. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 22870 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Different story making signings that move you away from the relegation zone. A couple of wins get you away from trouble cos no one down there can string two results together. January signings come too late to move you anywhere too far up the league, cos those teams around you also win lots, and they probably don't turn you into a cup winner. The way some are pissing their pants you would think we were in relegation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4690 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 It does make you feel somewhat pissed off at just how obssessed with compliance the club as been. You have the likes of Chelsea finding loopholes left, right and center whereas City are the ones taking on the league legally. We've just sat back and been goody two shoes about the whole thing. This expectation many of us had that the weight of PIFs resources will be brought down to deal with PSR hasn't materialized at all, whether it's legal challenges or finding ways around it. For a while I put it down to a slow and steady methodical approach that might bear dividends in the future; I'm not sure anymore with the upheavel this summer. Not quite the well oiled machine we thought it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 I don't have any issue with the club following the rules. If we break the rules, we'll face points deductions. Whatever Chelsea has done, it's been deemed to be within the rules so far, as far as I'm aware. And we don't have any hotels, or any other assets to sell. The rules that we're following are total bullshit, but they're fairly black and white. There IS no magic wand, so it's not right to criticise the club for not locating it. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4690 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 50 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Whatever Chelsea has done, it's been deemed to be within the rules so far, as far as I'm aware. Well yes, but these are rules that favor the biggest clubs and have been specifically tailored to stop us post takeover. Yet City are the ones taking the league on over that? They're affected too of course but we just seem to be whimpering in a corner. I'd like to see a little bit of agitation tbh. I'm not saying break the rules but we seem to have found absolutely no way to use PIFs muscle to our benefit. At various times some of us have mentioned that we'd expect to see more sponsorships etc by now but that progress also seems to be slow. The stadium feasibility study alone seems to be taking years. These are sensitive issues granted but if you're not willing to shake things up a bit PSR and the Premier league will have us tied down for decades. Maybe I'm just frustrated, but I do think the chaos in the summer has shown all is not as well planned as we thought it was. And maybe they'll turn it around but by the looks of it we cant expect much activity in the January window and that's on the back of a truly pathetic window where the squad has actually regressed. So either we'll end up having to sell one of our stars (which will make the sales of Minteh and Anderson even more terrible) or Eddie will be made the scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Man City took the PL to court cos they had a sponsorship deal refused due to the new rules. We acted as witness on their behalf. We don't have to come up with our own separate legal challenge. And we aren't able to use PIF's muscle to our benefit because it's muscle is entirely financial and they've brought rules in specifically to prevent a situation where a PIF comes along and uses its financial muscle. We're all frustrated, but blaming the club because they haven't taken the PL to court, or haven't found a hotel to sell (instead of squad players), is "daddy I want an oompah loompah!" territory. The rules need to change. And Man City's victory will hopefully be the start of that. But if the rules don't change, we're going to go on being frustrated in the short term at the very least. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4690 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Trust an accountant to go by the book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Keep Craig out of this. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 (edited) 53 minutes ago, aimaad22 said: Well yes, but these are rules that favor the biggest clubs and have been specifically tailored to stop us post takeover. Yet City are the ones taking the league on over that? They're affected too of course but we just seem to be whimpering in a corner. I'd like to see a little bit of agitation tbh. I'm not saying break the rules but we seem to have found absolutely no way to use PIFs muscle to our benefit. At various times some of us have mentioned that we'd expect to see more sponsorships etc by now but that progress also seems to be slow. The stadium feasibility study alone seems to be taking years. These are sensitive issues granted but if you're not willing to shake things up a bit PSR and the Premier league will have us tied down for decades. I’m inclined to agree with you, as the saying goes: ‘shy bairns get nowt’. I’m frustrated that we’ve done everything by the book. Where’s the training kit sponsor? Where’s the training ground sponsor? Where’s the official tampon supplier to the men’s team? We’ve taken a lot of flak for being owned by a bunch of murderous oil loving cunts without seeing the full benefit of it. If they’re okay with cutting up journalists with a bone saw then I reckon they wouldn’t be too upset with some PL aggro. It’s up to the people at SJP to push that. Edited October 29, 2024 by ewerk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Fucking millennials. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Why is it unsurprising that the Ford Fiesta driver lacks imagination? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 I hear whining. I don't hear any ideas. And it's a Focus, bitch. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11364 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 They're not going to commit to sponsorship deals until they see how the dust settles on the City judgement and how far that pushes the envelope, if at all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 3 minutes ago, Gemmill said: I hear whining. I don't hear any ideas. I just made three suggestions. So it looks like you’re neither an ideas man nor a details man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, Toonpack said: They're not going to commit to sponsorship deals until they see how the dust settles on the City judgement and how far that pushes the envelope, if at all. Why not? What’s the worst that could happen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 minute ago, ewerk said: I just made three suggestions. So it looks like you’re neither an ideas man nor a details man. Official Tampon supplier? Are you and aimaad hoping for a big delivery? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11364 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Just now, ewerk said: Why not? What’s the worst that could happen? We get locked into a deal we could have bettered if we waited. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 8 minutes ago, Toonpack said: We get locked into a deal we could have bettered if we waited. We are talking about sweetheart deals with VERY friendly customers. Negotiations on bonuses and get out clauses shouldn’t be a problem. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4690 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 Even a dodgy sale to Saudi might have been nice just to ruffle feathers a bit. Fine Miggy doesnt want to go there the useless tit, but how much did we sell ASM for? 25M? Sheesh. It's like the club has been tucking their tail between the legs and saying 'please oh please dont question us premier league please look how nice we are'. And if a certain Australian is reading 25M is still far too much for him, it's just that Chelsea or ManUtd would have gotten 35-40M. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 33220 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 1 hour ago, Gemmill said: Official Tampon supplier? Are you and aimaad hoping for a big delivery? By the sounds of it they could make their money back on a massive bloody cunt in Wideopen. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49965 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 That sounded RIDICULOUS in the Gerry Adams voice I use to read all your posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted October 29, 2024 Share Posted October 29, 2024 6 hours ago, Isegrim said: Exactly. People who bank on us doing serious business in January to strengthen our first team will be incredibly disappointed come February. We managed it the first season of the takeover when we signed Bruno, trippier, burn and Targett. It isn’t impossible 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10272 Posted October 30, 2024 Share Posted October 30, 2024 13 hours ago, ewerk said: We are talking about sweetheart deals with VERY friendly customers. Negotiations on bonuses and get out clauses shouldn’t be a problem. it's reached the stage with me now where I'm actually as fucked off with how pathetically desperate the club is to be seen to comply with the pl's corrupt rules than I am with the cunts who set them up in the first place. appears we can only hope to sign the kid from brentford if we further strengthen arsenal with isak or liverpool with gordon, and so it carries on forever more. fuck em, fight them in court, show some bollocks. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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