Craig 6806 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: the club aren't paying me to identify and sign the players The point I'm getting at is perhaps they haven't been able to identify a player in that position who improves the situation, is available, interested and fits into the financial illustration alongside other transfer priorities. So who do you believe fits into this bracket? Edited August 28, 2024 by Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6806 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 28 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it didn't prevent the old recruitment team from getting business done with time to spare. they signed bruno and trippier in a january window when relegation was on the cards. the new set up might yet get it right, but they're cutting it fine. if the window closed tomorrow, it would be the worst since the takeover. that's why people are moaning on social media. No, people are moaning on social media because they're clueless cunts who think buying a new player is no more complicated that walking into Tesco and buying a block of cheese 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 (edited) 18 minutes ago, Craig said: The point I'm getting at is perhaps they haven't been able to identify a player in that position who improves the situation, is available, interested and fits into the financial illustration alongside other transfer priorities. So who do you believe fits into this bracket? how the fuck should i know? i don't speak to players' agents. it's their job to get the business done in good time - not mine Edited August 28, 2024 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 36 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Based on zero evidence, aye OK 🙄 Your RW obsession would lead me to believe you already do smoke crack, a wee bit too much at that. nope. never tried it, but my god i could be tempted if we have to endure another season of miggy and murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 37 minutes ago, Toonpack said: Based on zero evidence, aye OK 🙄 Your RW obsession would lead me to believe you already do smoke crack, a wee bit too much at that. zero evidence? did i miss something? i always thought he looked like a canny player for bournemouth, though he didn't impress me on sunday. i think he's a more natural CB than LB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 36721 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 I find it quite funny that within the twattersphere you seem to have the same groups of people going ballistic that the club got into a PSR hole that saw them sell Minteh and Anderson. And yet think the club should’ve spent about £200m on three first teamers this window. Without joining the dots. Putting the idiots to one side though, PSR clearly has a big knock on impact on what the club can currently spend. Given that, you do have to question why so much time and effort seems to have been expended on a CB for £60+. It would be different if we were talking about a world class talent at their peak. He’s the next level down imo. Just seems odd the way the window has played out. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6806 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 13 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: how the fuck should i know? i don't speak to players' agents. it's their job to get the business done in good time - not mine I rest my case 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, Craig said: I rest my case a case so flimsy it would be dismissed before going trial. we are debating whether it's worth spunking our entire summer budget on guehi - you appear to assume a bullshit artist on a message board should have inside knowledge of which players are available and willing to join us. how the fuck would any of us know about any of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6806 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Alex said: I find it quite funny that within the twattersphere you seem to have the same groups of people going ballistic that the club got into a PSR hole that saw them sell Minteh and Anderson. And yet think the club should’ve spent about £200m on three first teamers this window. Without joining the dots. Putting the idiots to one side though, PSR clearly has a big knock on impact on what the club can currently spend. Given that, you do have to question why so much time and effort seems to have been expended on a CB for £60+. It would be different if we were talking about a world class talent at their peak. He’s the next level down imo. Just seems odd the way the window has played out. I think his value is driven by a) he's English and b) he raised his profile at the Euros. The situation IS compounded by the fact Palace know we need a CB. As for his value, he's worth as much as we're prepared to pay for him. Rather than measure him against all options out there we reluctantly have to look at whether he'd improve the situation we find ourselves in. Our CB offering is frankly dire and if we've any ambitions of getting back into the European qualification places, we have to address that, and quicky. On the basis of last season, going forward isn't the primary concern. We scored more goals (85) than we have in any Premier League season previously (Previous record was 82 in 1993/93). Defensively we let in as many (62) as we did when we were relegated in 2008/09 and on par with both the final full Bruce season, and the one where we eventually got rid of him. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6806 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: a case so flimsy it would be dismissed before going trial. we are debating whether it's worth spunking our entire summer budget on guehi - you appear to assume a bullshit artist on a message board should have inside knowledge of which players are available and willing to join us. how the fuck would any of us know about any of that? "We need to sign a RW, we need to sign a RW." "Who?" "I don't know, I don't care, but it has to be a RW..." Fuck me gently 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 8 minutes ago, Alex said: I find it quite funny that within the twattersphere you seem to have the same groups of people going ballistic that the club got into a PSR hole that saw them sell Minteh and Anderson. And yet think the club should’ve spent about £200m on three first teamers this window. Without joining the dots. Putting the idiots to one side though, PSR clearly has a big knock on impact on what the club can currently spend. Given that, you do have to question why so much time and effort seems to have been expended on a CB for £60+. It would be different if we were talking about a world class talent at their peak. He’s the next level down imo. Just seems odd the way the window has played out. 100%. i hope the media have got it all wrong and we announce two signings that the football reporters had no clue about whatsoever. that would be more keeping with our style since the takeover so far - players in the £30-50m range, announced out of nowhere with none of this very public and protracted increased bidding that we've seen play out in the media with the guehi story. it all feels a bit odd and not in keeping with they way they've done their business so far. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, Craig said: "We need to sign a RW, we need to sign a RW." "Who?" "I don't know, I don't care, but it has to be a RW..." Fuck me gently i think the club should sign a RW better than Murphy and MIggy, yes. This is not a controversial opinion, you know. it's the only position in the squad that hasn't been upgraded since the takeover. i could throw plenty of names at you but i have no clue whether they would join or not and neither do you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11366 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, Dr Gloom said: a case so flimsy it would be dismissed before going trial. we are debating whether it's worth spunking our entire summer budget on guehi - you appear to assume a bullshit artist on a message board should have inside knowledge of which players are available and willing to join us. how the fuck would any of us know about any of that? Who’s said it’s our whole budget ? We equally could have more to spend but we aren’t because the right player, for us, isn’t available. Eddie basically laid it out in that press conference you took Hope’s twisted words for, he said it’s about bringing in players who improve the squad with their whole game, with and without the ball and how they’ll fit into the group. It’s multi-faceted, it’s not just “ooh he’s great at going forward” it’s the players whole game/character they’re looking at and I’m personally fine with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, Toonpack said: Who’s said it’s our whole budget ? We equally could have more to spend but we aren’t because the right player, for us, isn’t available. Eddie basically laid it out in that press conference you took Hope’s twisted words for, he said it’s about bringing in players who improve the squad with their whole game, with and without the ball and how they’ll fit into the group. It’s multi-faceted, it’s not just “ooh he’s great at going forward” it’s the players whole game/character they’re looking at and I’m personally fine with that. I mean, no one said it but it's hard to imagine they have much more to spend if they drop £70m on Guehi. I may be wrong, but it seems unlikely given what they have done in recent windows - we haven't done a Todd Boehly style supermarket sweep and I wouldn't expect them to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1805 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Would this thread be a glimpse of what its like to be on a random forum post on RTG? I saw a load of new posts and assumed the fecker had signed 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11366 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i think the club should sign a RW better than Murphy and MIggy, yes. This is not a controversial opinion, you know. it's the only position in the squad that hasn't been upgraded since the takeover. i could throw plenty of names at you but i have no clue whether they would join or not and neither do you You can be certain Eddie/the club know who they are and we’re only not moving on it because a) CB is a higher priority, and b) that player isn’t available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11366 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 7 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: I mean, no one said it but it's hard to imagine they have much more to spend if they drop £70m on Guehi. I may be wrong, but it seems unlikely given what they have done in recent windows - we haven't done a Todd Boehly style supermarket sweep and I wouldn't expect them to. If Guehi signs for £70 mill and on a 5 year deal that’s only a £14 mill hit on this years accounts, there’s money there but the players that tick all our boxes mustn’t be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, Toonpack said: You can be certain Eddie/the club know who they are and we’re only not moving on it because a) CB is a higher priority, and b) that player isn’t available. that was exactly my point to craig - i'm not pretending to have a clue about who the realistic targets are, or who is available because who knows how much money they want or whether they would contemplate joining us? eales and mitchell will ultimately be judged by what they've managed to do before the window closes. we obviously aren't as attractive since missing out on european football, but i still find it hard to believe we can't improve both problem positions. leaving it till the last three days of the window is testing the faith. they haven't done it like this to date - howe said as much in a recent press conference that this has been his most difficult window so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11366 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 I suspect the difficulty is down to who’s available, or lack thereof, rather than anything else, someone said pages ago we’re fishing in a small pond. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49969 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Howe saying it was a difficult window was in reference to selling Minteh and Anderson for non-football reasons. He wasn't talking about Guehi going to the last few days. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 2 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Howe saying it was a difficult window was in reference to selling Minteh and Anderson for non-football reasons. He wasn't talking about Guehi going to the last few days. “The June part of the window was incredibly difficult and now this part hasn’t been exactly easy either. It’s always going to be difficult because you’re competing for a very small pool of players and the competition is high from other clubs.” When asked directly about the chances of signing Guehi, Howe replied: “There’s no news. I’m a step removed, but I’m aware there’s still work going on behind the scenes.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 “It’s been the most difficult window I’ve experienced,” said Howe ahead of Sunday’s match against his former club Bournemouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49969 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Yep, the June part was "incredibly difficult". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23642 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Just now, Gemmill said: Yep, the June part was "incredibly difficult". it's okay to get things wrong you know 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49969 Posted August 28, 2024 Share Posted August 28, 2024 Mate, I watched the press conferences. He's talked about how difficult it was to sell Anderson and Minteh, and how Anderson was a player he liked and a great lad. That's the bit he focuses in on. You're wrong here, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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