Who hopes Palace get relegated and Guehi leaves on a free?

[Craig 6806]

It cracks me up how people are absolutely convinced of the numbers being banded around as well. Since the takeover, this club has played their business very close to their chests so I take the reporting of £60m / £65m / £70m by the rags with an absolutely massive pinch of salt. 

Too many of our fans have decided they don't want him on the basis that the deal is taking too long to conclude / he's obviously not wanting to come as he keeps playing for Palace (serious, WTAF?!) / the cost is too much. 

I'll absolutely crease up if we end up signing him on Friday for £45-50m and he's in the squad for Sunday. What are the pissy-pants brigade going to do then?

[RobElliott 1805]

Live scenes of Mitchell negotiating with Palace  

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Gemmill said:

 

You can't state monetary values and not factor in the mental inflation that trfr fees have gone through. All players are getting more expensive every season. Does this look a bit out of place? Yes. But I don't care. 

 

 i won't care either if we sign him at that price and he turns out to be mint. i just think we're desprate for a RW. it's the weakest area of the squad. unless howe starts playing gordon out there - i think he has to if we don't upgrade that position this window. 

[Craig 6806]

1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

yeah, let's go into another season with murphy and miggy as first choice RW (six goals between them last season) - they're sure to fire us back into top four contention. 

 

i like both players, they're honest grafters and always try but let's get real - they should be rotation options. if our saudi overlords are to be believed and they want us to get to number one, we can't be going into another season with steve bruce-era players fighting it out to start in a key forward position. 

We've got full backs playing at CB, man. Ordinarily it might have been the priority but 2 ACLs at the back end of the season put paid to that idea. 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Craig said:

We've got full backs playing at CB, man. Ordinarily it might have been the priority but 2 ACLs at the back end of the season put paid to that idea. 

 

Burn isn't a fullback man, howay. we've done that one to death. krafth is an emergency option. I would prefer to see kelly in there. 

[Dazzler 11819]

6 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

No one questioned Isak because

 

a) he's a striker and you have to pay more for the players who put the ball in the net and 

 

b) he was clearly an elite player

 

plenty of people questioned the gordon transfer for the price (i was among them). it seemed a lot for a young player with potential but the recruitment team were proved right on that case. i hope if they do spend £70m on guehi they will be proved right again but it does feel like a massive roll of the dice to me

Isak was signed for mental money off the back of a fucking terrible season at Sociedad. For a 1 in 3 striker at the time you could definitely argue we overpaid for him. However, he’s proven his worth twice over already. Guehi could easily be no different.

[thebrokendoll 10276]

5 minutes ago, Craig said:

I'll absolutely crease up if we end up signing him on Friday for £45-50m 

 

there's not a hope in hell of that happening.

[Dazzler 11819]

Miggy and Murphy fired us to CL before like. Just saying….

[Craig 6806]

I'm not saying Burn is a full back, but if he gets injured we've got fuck all cover. 

And you'd already decided on the basis of one game that Kelly isn't good enough - even though he was up against a player who was by far the best on the pitch.

 

[Craig 6806]

1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

there's not a hope in hell of that happening.

Why? Let's be honest, none of us have any idea what offers the club have put forward as it's not loose-lipped like the Ashley era. We haven't a clue man, we're basing it all on media speculation

[Dr Gloom 23642]

1 minute ago, Dazzler said:

Miggy and Murphy fired us to CL before like. Just saying….

 

yeah, and the hope was miggy would continue his form last season but it was obviously a once in a career purple patch and he has since reverted to type. i'm still haunted by that tap in into an open goal he fluffed because he couldn't bring himself to use his right foot. it really is time to upgrade that position 

[Dr Gloom 23642]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

I'm not saying Burn is a full back, but if he gets injured we've got fuck all cover. 

And you'd already decided on the basis of one game that Kelly isn't good enough - even though he was up against a player who was by far the best on the pitch.

 

 

You literally just said we started two full backs at CB in the last game. 

 

I was under the impression that Kelly was signed as a CB who could provide occasional cover at LB, a bit like Dan Burn so I won't dig him out too much for struggling at LB the other day. Hopefully he'll be able to do a job in that position in some games, a bit like Burn can. 

Edited August 28, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[Toonpack 11366]

10 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

yeah, let's go into another season with murphy and miggy as first choice RW (six goals between them last season) - they're sure to fire us back into top four contention. 

 

i like both players, they're honest grafters and always try but let's get real - they should be rotation options. if our saudi overlords are to be believed and they want us to get to number one, we can't be going into another season with steve bruce-era players fighting it out to start in a key forward position. 

 

Their out of possession work might just do that, you know, the bit no-one (apart from Eddie) ever mentions.

 

When we do (and we will) upgrade RW it's be someone who's more dynamic going forward than those 2 and as workaholic going backwards. Who that is, I have no idea, but I bet the club have an eye on him.

[thebrokendoll 10276]

3 minutes ago, Craig said:

Why? Let's be honest, none of us have any idea what offers the club have put forward as it's not loose-lipped like the Ashley era. We haven't a clue man, we're basing it all on media speculation

 

parish isn't letting his superstar, english central defender whose just been roundly accepted as the stand out performer at the euros go for £45m. 

not happening man.

[Craig 6806]

4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said:

 

You literally just said we started two full backs at CB in the last game. 

 

I was under the impression that Kelly was signed as a CB who could provide occasional cover at LB, a bit like Dan Burn so I won't dig him out too much for struggling at LB the other day. Hopefully he'll be able to do a job in that position in some games, a bit like Burn can. 

I actually said we've got full backs playing at CB, I didn't put a numeric figure on it. The point I'm getting at is we've no cover there so in my mind it has to be the priority. It was that way for me ever since the 2nd ACL happened. 

[Craig 6806]

1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

parish isn't letting his superstar, english central defender whose just been roundly accepted as the stand out performer at the euros go for £45m. 

not happening man.

 

He's a bag of hot air, that one. And he's got previous - he wasn't going to sell Zaha to Man Utd a decade back for anything less than a British record. It ended up being no more than £15m

I don't expect we'll get him for that amount, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it happened.

[wykikitoon 22876]

IF we do sign him I wouldn't be surprised at 'undisclosed fee' 

[Holden McGroin 7625]

22 minutes ago, Craig said:

It cracks me up how people are absolutely convinced of the numbers being banded around as well. Since the takeover, this club has played their business very close to their chests so I take the reporting of £60m / £65m / £70m by the rags with an absolutely massive pinch of salt. 

Too many of our fans have decided they don't want him on the basis that the deal is taking too long to conclude / he's obviously not wanting to come as he keeps playing for Palace (serious, WTAF?!) / the cost is too much. 

I'll absolutely crease up if we end up signing him on Friday for £45-50m and he's in the squad for Sunday. What are the pissy-pants brigade going to do then?

We could equally end up with no-one which comes off bad when you’ve been publicly chasing a player for month solid. (I’m sure we are looking at other players but it’s the illusion it gives off)

 

ill be glad when it’s all over.

[thebrokendoll 10276]

Just now, Craig said:

 

He's a bag of hot air, that one. And he's got previous - he wasn't going to sell Zaha to Man Utd a decade back for anything less than a British record. It ended up being no more than £15m

I don't expect we'll get him for that amount, but I wouldn't be totally surprised if it happened.

 

you've listed another reason why parish doesn't let him go for £45m, the two acls.

he is a cunt, but probably not a stupid one.

 

[Craig 6806]

1 minute ago, wykikitoon said:

IF we do sign him I wouldn't be surprised at 'undisclosed fee' 

It'll almost certainly be that if it happens.

 

[Holden McGroin 7625]

2 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

you've listed another reason why parish doesn't let him go for £45m, the two acls.

he is a cunt, but probably not a stupid one.

 

He has just sold Joachim Anderson for £30m which seems low when you’re asking to get £70m for Guehi.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

4 minutes ago, Craig said:

I actually said we've got full backs playing at CB, I didn't put a numeric figure on it. The point I'm getting at is we've no cover there so in my mind it has to be the priority. It was that way for me ever since the 2nd ACL happened. 

 

i mean we do have cover in that position - we have Schar, Burn, Kelly, Krafth and A Murphy to cover two positions - plus Botman and Lascelles to return half way through the season. a stop gap loan or a cheaper younger player with potential, to eventually replace Schar, would give us the cover we need until the other two get back from injury. it would also mean we have more to invest on a much-needed RW. 

 

i hope we can do both. we need a RW and a CB. i think the window is a failure however if we begin yet another season with miggy and murphy at RW as they're no longer good enough for where we aspire to be.

 

the ideal scenario is they secure Guehi (if he is indeed their top target) AND a quality RW, but the mood music around the club doesn't suggest that will happen and i think that would be a mistake 

[Holden McGroin 7625]

Only a few more days until he signs or transfer window shuts. I cannot wait for this thread to end.

[Dr Gloom 23642]

Just now, Holden McGroin said:

He has just sold Joachim Anderson for £30m which seems low when you’re asking to get £70m for Guehi.

 

is guehi better than anderson? let's forget about the english player tax for a minute. i'm not sure. perhaps @The Fish can give is another player comparison. 

[Craig 6806]

1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said:

 

you've listed another reason why parish doesn't let him go for £45m, the two acls.

he is a cunt, but probably not a stupid one.

 

Successful businessman so you've absolutely nailed him here. 

He's in the strong position where he doesn't need to sell so I don't blame him for pushing the figure up. True understanding will be what Guehi is thinking privately. If he wants the move, then Parish runs the risk of him playing his contract down for 18 months and losing him for nothing. Even a 'not-stupid cunt' of a businessman is going to ponder that than just think of the maximum £ signs.