ewerk 29479 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Dr Gloom said: it feels like £60m plus add one or whatever the last bid was might be the top end of our valuation. It was the fourth bid, I think? Usually if the selling club is serious about selling you’ll reach an agreement by the third bid, right? Unless one side is trying to take the piss out of the other None of us have a clue what's going on. End of. Mods, close the thread now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1205 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: The "we should have walked away by now" narrative is idiotic BTW. If we only sign players where the selling club bends over for us, we're gonna be buying an awful lot of shite. It started on twitter and it's found its way on here. We didnt bend over for lille and lyon when we wanted bruno and botman, we stuck to our guns even though they wanted silly money. Why are we spending 70mil on this guy? tsk tsk, walk away from this Edited August 28 by LongTimeAdmirer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6576 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: so never walk away? Even if the selling club is taking the piss? Palace are negotiating from a position of strength. They’re flush with cash from other sales and already lost their other centre half. They’re only selling if we pay silly money, by the looks of it. So you advocate the powers that be walk away from any deal where the selling club are pushing the price up, but you're going to be massively fucked off if we don't get an incoming transfer?! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Compare it to buying property. Has anyone ever made more than four offers on a house? Our tactic has always been to make a cheeky opening offer. Then a second if their counter offer is too high and a third if we really want the house. If that hasn’t been enough we’d walk away. There are more houses/players out there if you can’t afford your first choice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, thebrokendoll said: go then.... at what point do you say enough's enough then? When the asking price exceeds our valuation of the player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Craig said: So you advocate the powers that be walk away from any deal where the selling club are pushing the price up, but you're going to be massively fucked off if we don't get an incoming transfer?! no, I’m saying there are other players out there if this one is prohibitively expensive. I’d like to think they’re working on multiple targets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 3 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: it feels like £60m plus add one or whatever the last bid was might be the top end of our valuation. It was the fourth bid, I think? Usually if the selling club is serious about selling you’ll reach an agreement by the third bid, right? Unless one side is trying to take the piss out of the other By all accounts, we initially went in well short of what they wanted. That's what the first 2 or 3 bids were about - getting us remotely in range of what they wanted. As for comparing it to buying a house. Howay man. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6576 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Dr Gloom said: Compare it to buying property. Has anyone ever made more than four offers on a house? Our tactic has always been to make a cheeky opening offer. Then a second if their counter offer is too high and a third if we really want the house. If that hasn’t been enough we’d walk away. There are more houses/players out there if you can’t afford your first choice As others have said, if once the club have made the absolutely maximum offer it's still knocked back then you walk away. We've no idea if we've already played that card though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8610 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 2 minutes ago, Toonpack said: If you make an offer which is absolutely your best offer and it’s knocked back, that’s when. and I'd agree with that. id have no issue with a low ball offer initially. the 2nd bid would be the best one. at which point I'd walk away. were up to four or five now IF the press are to believed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6576 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: no, I’m saying there are other players out there if this one is prohibitively expensive. I’d like to think they’re working on multiple targets There are ... but are they considered the right fit for our requirements - most likely not. Once their demands exceed our valuation of the deal, then we walk away. None of us are in a position to say whether that threshold has been met though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 29479 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 6 minutes ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: We didnt bend over for lille and lyon when we wanted bruno and botman, we stuck to our guns even though they wanted silly money. The Bruno deal was done in a matter of days. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Craig said: There are ... but are they considered the right fit for our requirements - most likely not. Once their demands exceed our valuation of the deal, then we walk away. None of us are in a position to say whether that threshold has been met though. I think that’s the first thing you’ve posted today that I agree with But what else are we going to chat shit about on a slow news day with three days to go till the window closes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Gemmill said: By all accounts, we initially went in well short of what they wanted. That's what the first 2 or 3 bids were about - getting us remotely in range of what they wanted. As for comparing it to buying a house. Howay man. you must be that ginger bloke my mate in wideopen was telling me about who made 10 bids for his three-bed semi Edited August 28 by Dr Gloom 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 4 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: you must be that ginger bloke my mate in wideopen was telling me about who made 10 bids for his three-bed semi Absolutely scandalous to be bringing your house buying experiences into the thread. I wasted my time getting off twitter when you're coming with that drivel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Absolutely scandalous to be bringing your house buying experiences into the thread. I wasted my time getting off twitter when you're coming with that drivel. The same logic applies to all deal making though doesn’t it. You test the water with an opening bid or two before going to your final offer. This is the point where you really can’t afford to go any higher. I don’t know if we have hit that point yet or whether we were the ones taking the piss with lowball early bids. But seeing four or five offers rejected as publicly as this isn’t a great look. Edited August 28 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 You were lucky enough to keep the wide open humiliation under wraps. Until now 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6576 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Dr Gloom said: The same logic applies to all deal making though doesn’t it. You test the water with an opening bid or two before going to your final offer. This is the point where you really can’t afford to go any higher. I don’t know if we have hit that point yet or whether we were the ones taking the piss with lowball early bids. But seeing four or five offers rejected as publicly as this isn’t a great look. If the deal comes off, he arrives and proves to be a massive success, i couldn't really give a flying fuck how this experience looked publicly tbh. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8610 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) I wanted an old copper whistling kettle for the campervan wood stove. had a look on ebay and found exactly what I was looking for. put a cheeky bid in for £15 with 24 hours to go and checked in again with a minute to go only to find I'd been outbid. hit them with a big purple one in the last 15 seconds and got the fucking thing for £19.50.... ruthless, that's me. Edited August 28 by thebrokendoll 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Craig said: If the deal comes off, he arrives and proves to be a massive success, i couldn't really give a flying fuck how this experience looked publicly tbh. second time I’ve agreed with you today 👏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 42591 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, thebrokendoll said: I wanted an old copper whistling kettle for the campervan wood stove. had a look on ebay and found exactly what I was looking for. put a cheeky bid in for £15 with 24 hours to go and checked in again with a minute to go only to find I'd been outbid. hit them with a big purple one in the last 15 seconds and got the fucking think for £19.50.... ruthless, that's me. When clubs start listing players on ebay and Rightmove, I'm sure you and Gloomy will be the first people Eales calls. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1205 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) alright youve hugged it out. Delete this thread @Meenzer Edited August 28 by LongTimeAdmirer 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 8610 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 Just now, Gemmill said: When clubs start listing players on ebay and Rightmove, I'm sure you and Gloomy will be the first people Eales calls. and so they should. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craig 6576 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Dr Gloom said: second time I’ve agreed with you today 👏 That's alright young padawan, keep up the good work 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 1 minute ago, Gemmill said: When clubs start listing players on ebay and Rightmove, I'm sure you and Gloomy will be the first people Eales calls. they won’t be calling you. I heard the local estate agents were calling it the great Wideopen massacre of 2018 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 21283 Posted August 28 Share Posted August 28 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Craig said: That's alright young padawan, keep up the good work Stop talking so much shit and I’m in 🙏 Edited August 28 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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