Who hopes Palace get relegated and Guehi leaves on a free?

[OTF 8641]

  On 19/08/2024 at 11:40, Toonpack said:

It is, maybe straightforward to improve on his RW output but his positional flexibility less so.

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And his shithousery even less so again.

[Holden McGroin 7898]

Just seen the Mbeumo goal. He clearly doesn’t have a brain cell if he thinks letting him get on his left foot 10 yards out is a good idea. 
 

stay clear. 

[wykikitoon 23715]

Guehi because of an error in the opening game of the season after spending several weeks with a boring big toothed tweed wearing, jigsaw loving cunt in safegate ✅

[Holden McGroin 7898]

  On 19/08/2024 at 17:20, wykikitoon said:

Guehi because of an error in the opening game of the season after spending several weeks with a boring big toothed tweed wearing, jigsaw loving cunt in safegate ✅

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You’re blaming Southgate for showing Mbeumo on his left foot about 8 yards out? 😂

 

it’s basic park football defending man.

[Dr Gloom 24235]

  On 19/08/2024 at 10:31, ewerk said:

 

Easy. Sylvain Marveaux.

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Shane Ferguson?

[Dr Gloom 24235]

  On 19/08/2024 at 10:51, The Fish said:

Rotherham could do with some cash, maybe we get back Shane Ferguson?

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Beat me to it 

[wykikitoon 23715]

 

[The Fish 11410]

  On 22/08/2024 at 08:39, LongTimeAdmirer said:

Surely we can get a botman type fella for 30-40 

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Ok Veruca Salt.

[sammynb 3959]

You have to put some faith in the club if they really are this desperate to sign Guehi, most I've seen of him was for England this past Euros and he looked good in a very pedestrian team.

The thing that sticks out for me though, is they say in current market, that Shearer would be a 100m stiker, so that's for a player that in his prime was top 2 or 3 for his position, in the world.

So how is a defender, who is some way off being top 10, in his position, worth the money that is being quoted?

Just seems a ridiculous sum of money for a club that is skirting close to PSR issues.

[Toonpack 12087]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:10, The Fish said:

Ok Veruca Salt.

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BD's alter ego

[Dr Gloom 24235]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:30, sammynb said:

You have to put some faith in the club if they really are this desperate to sign Guehi, most I've seen of him was for England this past Euros and he looked good in a very pedestrian team.

The thing that sticks out for me though, is they say in current market, that Shearer would be a 100m stiker, so that's for a player that in his prime was top 2 or 3 for his position, in the world.

So how is a defender, who is some way off being top 10, in his position, worth the money that is being quoted?

Just seems a ridiculous sum of money for a club that is skirting close to PSR issues.

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he’s a good player and the recruitment team clearly want him so you have put faith in them as they haven’t got much wrong since the takeover. I agree about the price though. I really hope the inflated fee doesn’t prevent us getting a right ringer in though I suspect a lot will depend on whether there are more outgoings 

Edited August 22, 2024 by Dr Gloom

[The Fish 11410]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:30, sammynb said:

You have to put some faith in the club if they really are this desperate to sign Guehi, most I've seen of him was for England this past Euros and he looked good in a very pedestrian team.

The thing that sticks out for me though, is they say in current market, that Shearer would be a 100m stiker, so that's for a player that in his prime was top 2 or 3 for his position, in the world.

So how is a defender, who is some way off being top 10, in his position, worth the money that is being quoted?

Just seems a ridiculous sum of money for a club that is skirting close to PSR issues.

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Peak Shearer would be north of £200m. 

[Toonpack 12087]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:33, Dr Gloom said:

he’s a good player and the recruitment team clearly want him so you have put faith in them as they haven’t got much wrong since the takeover. I agree about the price though. I really hope the inflated fee doesn’t prevent us getting a right ringer in though I suspect a lot will depend on whether there are more outgoings 

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[sammynb 3959]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:35, The Fish said:

 

Peak Shearer would be north of £200m. 

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That's not the common thinking, even Shearer mentioned something in one of his recent articles.

Who was the last player that went for 200m? Hasn't happened has it?

[The Fish 11410]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:53, sammynb said:

 

That's not the common thinking, even Shearer mentioned something in one of his recent articles.

Who was the last player that went for 200m? Hasn't happened has it?

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£15m adjusted for football inflation is £222m. Shearer, not for the first time, is wrong. Neymar went for £200m in 2017.

[Chaser 1431]

  On 22/08/2024 at 09:35, The Fish said:

 

Peak Shearer would be north of £200m. 

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Fish have you posted Guehi's stats to back up he's worth/not worth the money? Be interested to see it.

[Holden McGroin 7898]

  On 22/08/2024 at 12:44, Chaser said:

Fish have you posted Guehi's stats to back up he's worth/not worth the money? Be interested to see it.

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I'll be interested to see his aerial duels being a relative midget for a CB. Hopefully he can leap like Sir Les.

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[The Fish 11410]

  On 22/08/2024 at 12:44, Chaser said:

Fish have you posted Guehi's stats to back up he's worth/not worth the money? Be interested to see it.

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[Holden McGroin 7898]

  On 22/08/2024 at 12:56, The Fish said:

 

 

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He might be okay next to Botman, mopping up anything with his pace.

 

Does Schar win nothing in the air ( from the second graphic?)

 

As suspected, Guehi is shite in the air.

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[The Fish 11410]

  On 22/08/2024 at 12:58, Holden McGroin said:

 

He might be okay next to Botman, mopping up anything his pace.

 

Does Schar win nothing in the air ( from the second graphic?)

 

As suspected, Guehi is shite in the air.

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He wins a small number of Aerial Duels, compared to the rest of the players analysed. But, as ever it only shows some of the picture. Schar isn't usually the CB that marks the most dangerous header of the ball at set pieces, most of the goals scored against us aren't headers (because we stop the cross at source, or they're low crosses). 

[AgentAxeman 309]

Tbf, center halfs with good recovery pace fit the bill for our press high tactics. Still think 70m is way too much though. 

[Holden McGroin 7898]

  On 22/08/2024 at 13:06, AgentAxeman said:

Tbf, center halfs with good recovery pace fit the bill for our press high tactics. Still think 70m is way too much though. 

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It's perhaps one area we lacked at the back from last season. Schar, Burn and Trippier (and Botman looked sluggish after the injury) all aren't classed as quick players.  

[Dr Gloom 24235]

  On 22/08/2024 at 12:56, The Fish said:

 

 

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the stats seem to confirm the eye test. Does he start ahead of Botman and Schar when everyone’s fit? I’m not sure he does. Though his extra pace will definitely be an asset in some games  

[Holden McGroin 7898]

  On 22/08/2024 at 13:27, Dr Gloom said:

the stats seem to confirm the eye test. Does he start ahead of Botman and Schar when everyone’s fit? I’m not sure he does. Though his extra pace will definitely be an asset in some games  

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He'll need the recovery pace for when he gets beat in the aerial dual. 😆

[Chaser 1431]

What other centre backs with pace are available for less than £60m that are as good or are better than Guehi? (that's probably the question Mitchell has already asked the scouting team last week when the last offer went in)