Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 30/01/2025 at 10:47, Gemmill said: Seems the jury is back in and we have a verdict with SOME PEOPLE. Expand if eddie guides us to top four with a weaker squad than the one he started the season with, he's even more of a genius than i thought already as he'll have done it without any assistance from our highly-rated DoF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11307 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 30/01/2025 at 10:43, Dr Gloom said: who is demanding that? we are one forward light in an area of the squad which was already light in quality and numbers. if we let miggy go and we don't replace him, has mitchell done a good job? we don't have to sign our first choice future RW for £50m at this stage - i understand there are psr constraints - but isn't mitchell's whole schtick supposed to be unearthing stars of the future on the cheap? if we go into the rest of the season a body down, i think we're gambling on top four, - it might be a gamble that comes off, but it would be a shame if it didn't after the good work done until this point. Expand In an ideal world we wouldn't be after a promising right winger, we'd need a right winger who's already an improvement on Murphy. But they cost more money than we should spend this window given the PSR restraints. Any way I don't think that a promising right winger would be the difference between top 5 and not this season. Isn't it better to keep our powder dry for the summer where we can see who's available, what competitions we're in, etcetera? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18881 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 I’d like to see the player who they’ve got in mind for Murphy replacement and his price tag. People are making this single upgrade sound exceedingly fuckin simple. His level at the moment is fuckin unreal. A purple patch? Well yes it very likely is. If he was Brazilian playing through balls like the one he did on Saturday people would be going out of their fuckin minds and hailing his utter genius though..he is, and his replacement needs to be, probably at Bruno’s level of skill if we are to keep supplying Isak with the service he requires to shoot us into the champions league Then we need to pay for him . Answers on a postcard to P. Mitchell at Barrack Road NE1. If Murphy keeps doing it a young lad to train up might be the answer because a literal upgrade might be out of our price range 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 (edited) On 30/01/2025 at 11:40, The Fish said: In an ideal world we wouldn't be after a promising right winger, we'd need a right winger who's already an improvement on Murphy. But they cost more money than we should spend this window given the PSR restraints. Any way I don't think that a promising right winger would be the difference between top 5 and not this season. Isn't it better to keep our powder dry for the summer where we can see who's available, what competitions we're in, etcetera? Expand We’re talking about bodies in the door at this stage as the squad is weaker than it was at the start of the season (once Miggy’s exit is confirmed). Maybe there’s a loan or a loan with an option deal to be done so it comes out of next summer’s budget? I don’t know, it’s Mitchell’s problem to fix. A big summer budget sounds great. But it will sound less so if inactivity means we miss out on CL and we’re forced to sell Isak. Do you think Eddie will be happy if his squad is one man weaker then it was at the start of the season? Edited January 30 by Dr Gloom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11307 Posted January 30 Share Posted January 30 On 30/01/2025 at 12:13, Dr Gloom said: We’re talking about bodies in the door at this stage as the squad is weaker than it was at the start of the season (once Miggy’s exit is confirmed). Maybe there’s a loan or a loan with an option deal to be done so it comes out of next summer’s budget? I don’t know, it’s Mitchell’s problem to fix. A big summer budget sounds great. But it will sound less so if inactivity means we miss out on CL and we’re forced to sell Isak. Do you think Eddie will be happy if his squad is one man weaker then it was at the start of the season? Expand I think a loan with an option/obligation sounds great. But teams are unlikely to be in a position to loan out an attacker who'd bother our first team at this stage of the season. A young attacker from abroad would be good. The second line escalates extremely quickly. a) I don't think signing a "body" will be the difference between Champions League and not, b) I don't think Isak will jostle for a move to a Champions League club other than the absolute elite clubs if we get European competition c) Real Madrid could maybe afford the £150m+ we'd demand for him? Man City have Haaland. Who else could realistically afford him this summer? No, but I think Eddie will be mollified if in the summer he's given the players he need to compete across several competitions 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 11204 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Simply "bodies through the door" would be madness, it'd just store up getting rid of deadwood issues in future (a'la Hayden). What we need is either specifically targetted starting quality upgrades (expensive) or young players with a road map to become positional upgrades (less expensive). i.e. we want to upgrade certain players who are then pushed down from first XI into the squad, or players added to the squad who are projected to rise in the pecking order. If none of those are available, we should stand pat until the summer IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OTF 8312 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 This thread is a good marker that F all has happened in the window. As Toonpack said it's all about the right signing rather than any signing. I think we have our targets and if we don't get them we don't accept next best. I'm fine with that. If we get champions league in the summer we'll obviously need to strengthen. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobElliott 1769 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Any signing is whats left us in the shit with not being able to shift them on with them being on long contracts, Hendrick, Hayden et al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 36251 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 08:25, RobElliott said: Any signing is whats left us in the shit with not being able to shift them on with them being on long contracts, Hendrick, Hayden et al Expand Ashley signings who couldn't be Eddie'd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49419 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fish 11307 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 08:31, Gemmill said: Expand Ayoze MKII? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 07:04, Toonpack said: Simply "bodies through the door" would be madness, it'd just store up getting rid of deadwood issues in future (a'la Hayden). What we need is either specifically targetted starting quality upgrades (expensive) or young players with a road map to become positional upgrades (less expensive). i.e. we want to upgrade certain players who are then pushed down from first XI into the squad, or players added to the squad who are projected to rise in the pecking order. If none of those are available, we should stand pat until the summer IMO. Expand it isn't madness at all if we lose the two to three players rumoured during this window. it would be madness to expect eddie to sustain a champions league push if his squad is 2-3 players weaker than the one he started the campaign with. the hayden comparison is bizarre as we are not shopping in the bargain bin anymore and i'm not advocating signing sub-bar players on long contracts. but if we do lose the players rumoured then mitchell needs to start doing his job - if psr constraints mean more players with potential rather than established and expensive stars that would go straight into the first team, fine. it is a numbers game as much as as it is about signing first team ready players and it would be criminal to deny eddie the sufficient squad depth to keep challenging for champions league spots after such a good start to the campaign. and isn't that what mitchell is supposed to be good at? identifying and recruiting stars of the future on the cheap? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 12363 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 09:34, Dr Gloom said: it isn't madness at all if we lose the two to three players rumoured during this window. it would be madness to expect eddie to sustain a champions league push if his squad is 2-3 players weaker than the one he started the campaign with. the hayden comparison is bizarre as we are not shopping in the bargain bin anymore and i'm not advocating signing sub-bar players on long contracts. but if we do lose the players rumoured then mitchell needs to start doing his job - if psr constraints mean more players with potential rather than established and expensive stars that would go straight into the first team, fine. it is a numbers game as much as as it is about signing first team ready players and it would be criminal to deny eddie the sufficient squad depth to keep challenging for champions league spots after such a good start to the campaign. and isn't that what mitchell is supposed to be good at? identifying and recruiting stars of the future on the cheap? Expand If they're not first team ready how does that address your concern? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49419 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 No one is coming in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7471 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 I can't imagine we'd let Longstaff go nor will he want to go with a potential cup final coming up. He always wanted to be a part of the team that won the first trophy. Im surprised Matty T isn't going if we have a good offer for him. Sounds like we don't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10172 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 well there's a surprise. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebrokendoll 10172 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 really don't understand why if they felt they needed to employ this cunt at all that they didn't just leave it for another 6 months and save themselves a canny wedge on wages. I mean what the fuck has he achieved in half a year other than a complete pr fuck up with his abomination of an interview? 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7471 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 Signed a few Irish lads? He must like a Guinness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 32896 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 09:47, Gemmill said: No one is coming in. Expand Howe is FUMING. 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 49419 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 10:07, LongTimeAdmirer said: another one for the loan thread Expand Yeah you're gonna have your hands full NOT providing updates about this one. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 09:39, RobinRobin said: If they're not first team ready how does that address your concern? Expand i mean they're in the tino/hall mould - players with potential in other words- rather than expensive players with loads of experience who stroll straight into the first team. players who howe will want to develop before he starts them regularly but still good enough to come off the bench to see a game out or provide cover for injuries. there are players out there that fit this brief and mitchell has a track record in this area. i presume he was brought into to identify this type of player for less than we paid on tino/hall. even in the summer i expect mitchell to sign a few like this - it won't be a clutch of £40-50m players to slot straight into the first team and i'm not expecting otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 09:47, Gemmill said: No one is coming in. Expand okay, well if we're only losing miggy it isn't ideal, but it's better than 2-3 going out with none coming in. we'll have to hope murphy avoids injury and that someone like barnes or willock can step up and provide cover at RW when needed. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 23401 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 On 31/01/2025 at 09:56, thebrokendoll said: really don't understand why if they felt they needed to employ this cunt at all that they didn't just leave it for another 6 months and save themselves a canny wedge on wages. I mean what the fuck has he achieved in half a year other than a complete pr fuck up with his abomination of an interview? Expand it's a fair point. i'm going to enjoy being blown away by his brilliance in the summer. he's had a bit of time to cook up something special. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 7471 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 The summer is where the masterplan comes together. So I hear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 18881 Posted January 31 Share Posted January 31 People should lower their expectations till the summer tbh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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