Holden McGroin 6783 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I switched off at half time to watch Succession. I’m not sure which was harder work. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9940 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Tremendous entertainment (not) he makes a change which isn’t a change by bringing Gallagher in, then changes it up at half time which again isn’t a really any change by bringing Mainoo on for Gallagher. Genius stuff 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kid Dynamite 7169 Posted June 25 Author Share Posted June 25 Bellingham was poor tonight. Saka anonymous too. Mainoo, Gordon and Palmer should start the next game but it's never gonna happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35573 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Gemmill said: He'll never drop Kane, but he's been fucking hopeless. England always does this though with the sacred cow players who simply have to be picked even if clearly unfit. Anyway, Southgate's got 5 days or so to rub his chin and then completely bottle another team selection. Give it to Ange. That’s another thing. If you’re going to persist with Kane. Consider he’s a 30 year old, whose legs have gone a bit and who’s come off the back of a long hard season. Also playing in very warm conditions tonight. AND DON’T PLAY HIM THE FULL 90 MINUTES! Give Watkins or Toney a good 25 minutes. What’s the point of running Kane into the ground in a match situation like that? If Kane doesn’t like getting taken off when he hasn’t scored, so fucking what? Edited June 25 by Alex 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5296 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Southgate is a fucking bellend. 5 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20721 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 8 minutes ago, Kid Dynamite said: Bellingham was poor tonight. Saka anonymous too. Mainoo, Gordon and Palmer should start the next game but it's never gonna happen! Bellingham from what I've seen had a decent half in the first game and the rest been nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9940 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Scotland are so much better at being shit than England, at least when we’re shit we have the dignity to fuck off home and don’t hang around stinking the place up. 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35573 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, Toonpack said: Scotland are so much better at being shit than England Fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35573 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 In fact, I’d say they’re classier too 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isegrim 9898 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 I have rarely enjoyed a boring game as much as this one. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33837 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 You hear about people sometimes saying why doesn't Southgate get the respect Venables and Robson gets? Well time and nostalgia plays a part but also stuff like this tournament, like getting one of the easiest run ins to a WC semi final you're likely to get, taking the lead and then snatching defeat from the jaws of victory, getting a home tournament final at home, taking the lead and doing the same, not having bravery when bravery is required, showing some balls and dropping certain players even if they're sacrosanct or play for certain untouchable clubs. Would you rather be slated for sticking to the same routine and regretting it later on or being the one who introduced the next best things? We had already qualified before KO but had looked very stale and pedestrian so it was almost a no brainer to change it significantly but he is who he is and that's unlikely to change. Honestly never rated the bloke as a manager and there's NEVER been a time I'd have wanted the bloke anywhere near NUFC. I'm sure he's a lovely person etc but he's just got too negative a mindset to win tournaments. (And as I've said loads of times, I'm not even a big England fan if I'm one at all?) 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17646 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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toonotl 3110 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Hey lads, do you think Southgate will play two defensive pivots next match? Surely not! Southgate is single-handedly ruining England's long track record of innovation in football tactics. Let's run through the list of tactical innovations in painstaking detail from the beginning. shall we? 1. England invents the game. 2. Southgate plays Bellingham at 6 (pending). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 I probably say this every 2 years, but just imagine this group of players under a coach with actual guts. At the very least they'd play exciting football, go down guns blazing in a semi final. Likely win something sooner or later. What you instead have is the most dour, tedious, boring man in football manage of the most talented squads around tournament after major tournament; getting to latter stages a couple of times due to a mix of favorable draws and individual player ability slotted on top of an ultra pragmatic strategic setup; making the football fan want to rip their insides out at the absolute torture of having to sit through England performances. I wouldn't be surprised if they manage to scratch and claw their way to the semis or the final again, take it to penalties. Football can work that way as we all know. But much like the last championships I hope they don't win, just because somebody who sucks the life and joy out of football shouldn't be allowed to succeed at life. The world is messed up enough as it is. For England's sake I hope we are not repeating this conversation AGAIN after 2 years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aimaad22 4222 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 On the plus side some of quips going around are occasionally enjoyable: "Southgate's favorite sandwhich filling is another slice of bread'......etc 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11557 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 6 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Think am going to put the dentistry film back on tbh 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11557 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 5 hours ago, Isegrim said: I have rarely enjoyed a boring game as much as this one. 1 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46027 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 3 hours ago, toonotl said: Hey lads, do you think Southgate will play two defensive pivots next match? Surely not! Southgate is single-handedly ruining England's long track record of innovation in football tactics. Let's run through the list of tactical innovations in painstaking detail from the beginning. shall we? 1. England invents the game. 2. Southgate plays Bellingham at 6 (pending). This fucking cheeky socceroo! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20721 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 hours ago, PaddockLad said: Insert jaysus emoji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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wykikitoon 20721 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 This is football podcast. Liniker needs to back off the wine 😂 thinks kane had more energy. Fuck me. My dead old man made more runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ewerk 31196 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Quote Their 2.26 expected goals from the three games ranked 19th among the 24 teams at the competition and they have only mustered the 17th most shots. Only Southgate could take a squad with attacking talent that is the envy of world football and come up with those stats. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20721 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 24 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: This is football podcast. Liniker needs to back off the wine 😂 thinks kane had more energy. Fuck me. My dead old man made more runs. It took them almost half way for a pissed up Lineker to say Bellingham hasn't played well. Like I said (Casey Stylee) He's had one decent half of football. Now, this isn't on Jude, it's on Southgate. But when you have people like Matterface wanking all over him and he's done fuck all it's embarrassing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35573 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Bellingham has done ok. It’s not really the system imo. It’s the way it’s being implemented. But what I find weird is, at club level you usually have a system at one time that a manager believes in. Then you recruit and use players that fit into it. Whereas at international level, you obviously can’t go out and sign players. So you tailor your tactics and formation to suit your best players. Southgate is obsessed with the system even though it’s to the detriment of some of the best attacking players in the world. Which I think Foden, Bellingham and Saka are when you consider the sort of fees they’d command if anyone could even afford them. Even then I think it’s fairly obvious that you could shuffle those players in this system / add the likes of Gordon and/or Palmer and make it work better. He’s such a limited coach it’s untrue. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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