LondonBlue 815 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 minute ago, MrRaspberryJam said: Dont think he's had a consistent run of games since coming back from injury. fair enough. i just don't see him as a left back. but then we are short on options Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22142 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 6 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: i know he scores goals, but kane just looks like a cart horse i don't think he had a touch in the first half Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9918 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 34 minutes ago, Alex said: Just a bit of a typical American question when you meet them on your hols or whatever and they learn you’re from England. I actually got that when I was asked where I was from at a street market in Chicago, not "John" but "OH! the UK, I have a friend in Birmingham, perhaps you know him". But also in hotel lift talking to the Mrs and yank said "oh, your accent, are you from Alabama" 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 10 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: well i was asked my opinion and i watch every game so i have one. although my memory is gone. he may be listed wide in a front 3, but that's not where he stays. I agree with you plus I have a gaffer who is a City fan and he said the same. It's just others have very bandaged dodgy WUM ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i don't think he had a touch in the first half Two touches. I don't think he looks fit. He played well second half in terms of relieving pressure and winning free kicks. But as an attacking threat he didn't offer anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35568 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Toonpack said: I actually got that when I was asked where I was from at a street market in Chicago, not "John" but "OH! the UK, I have a friend in Birmingham, perhaps you know him". But also in hotel lift talking to the Mrs and yank said "oh, your accent, are you from Alabama" I got asked if I was German once. I think I mentioned it before on here but we did get asked if we knew someone (happened on more than one occasion) but this particular time his auntie live in the Spinney in Heaton. I suppose it has to happen occasionally. Not that we knew her but we at least knew exactly where he meant Edited June 17 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Just now, wykikitoon said: Two touches. I don't think he looks fit. He played well second half in terms of relieving pressure and winning free kicks. But as an attacking threat he didn't offer anything. No decent service, got one chance, brilliant save denied him. Missing 2/3 times when ball was squared across goal though… 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 815 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 18 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: i don't think he had a touch in the first half that's because bellingham doesn't like to pass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6782 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) 26 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: fair enough. i just don't see him as a left back. but then we are short on options Yeah, first and foremost he is a different player from left back and right back. He is a non-attacking threat when on the left but very creative on the right. Secondly, he hasn't been in the best of form since he left the England camp a few months back. He is also struggled for fitness when he has got back. All in all I thought he did well last night in an unfamiliar position. You take away all his positive attributes when playing LB. I think Walker would also be the same. Edit: As England are scrapping the barrel for LBs I'd be tempted to play Joe Gomez there and tuck in a bit. Maybe play Gordon down the wing. with Walker pushing up the other. It would be pretty lopsided but Tripper offers very little attacking threat down that wing anyway. Edited June 17 by Holden McGroin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaser 1255 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) We got 3 points on the board against a a Serbian side who have dangerous players such as Mitro, Vlahovic and Mil Savic (not going to attempt the full spelling) and yet the media are pouring over it as if we were beaten. It wasn't the best 2nd half performance but it was job done. We could put 3 or 4 past Denmark and all of this negativity would be long forgotten about. Edited June 17 by Chaser 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobinRobin 11549 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, LondonBlue said: that's because bellingham doesn't like to pass 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 815 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 16 minutes ago, RobinRobin said: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1283 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 hours ago, wykikitoon said: I agree with you plus I have a gaffer who is a City fan and he said the same. It's just others have very bandaged dodgy WUM ideas. Fodens heatmap for 2024 Heatmap for 2023 Southgate spelling it out for you: Quote 'I can't play Phil Foden in the middle': Gareth Southgate insists Manchester City star can only play out wide as England boss reveals talks with 'best coach in the world' Pep Guardiola over his ideal position." ‘He doesn’t play there for his club, so presumably there is a reason for that,’ ‘You’d have to speak to Pep, who is the best coach in the world, who plays him wide. Guardiola and Southgate BOTH telling you he is a wideman but you're still trying to argue. Honestly, its time to admit, talking football just isn't for you. Go sit in the corner of your bedroom with a glass of water ready for Callum when he needs to rehydrate in between rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5294 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 6 minutes ago, LondonBlue said: Is this some residual animosity from the CL semi final? I haven't seen much about Bellingham not to like so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 815 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 minutes ago, Rayvin said: Is this some residual animosity from the CL semi final? I haven't seen much about Bellingham not to like so far. you got more than a glimpse of his personality when he "bumped" that serbian guy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22142 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, LondonBlue said: you got more than a glimpse of his personality when he "bumped" that serbian guy i thought that was class. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22142 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Honestly, it’s time to admit, talking football just isn't for you. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 5 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: But thing is, I only see the retard when someone quotes it. Block is wondeful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22142 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 4 hours ago, wykikitoon said: Two touches. I don't think he looks fit. He played well second half in terms of relieving pressure and winning free kicks. But as an attacking threat he didn't offer anything. dare i say it, but he reminds a lot of shearer toward the end of his england career after his legs went. he doesn't have much pace, he doesn't press anymore, he doesn't make runs in behind so when he isn't scoring he can look like a passenger. and, like with shearer, his goal record combined with the fact he's england captain leave his manager unwilling to sub him when he's having a bad game - even though we have strikers on the bench with pace who could come on and stretch the game. if that header went in maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Yeh very much. Hopefully in the next game he gets more service too. The physicality of the Serbs didn't help and I thought he did well against them but the lack of runs didn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LondonBlue 815 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 We all see things differently. That's fair. But to say not agreeing with those heatmaps means you don't understand football is just not correct. There is more to football than heatmaps. 1 hour ago, LongTimeAdmirer said: Fodens heatmap for 2024 Heatmap for 2023 Southgate spelling it out for you: Guardiola and Southgate BOTH telling you he is a wideman but you're still trying to argue. Honestly, its time to admit, talking football just isn't for you. Go sit in the corner of your bedroom with a glass of water ready for Callum when he needs to rehydrate in between rounds. 4 hours ago, LondonBlue said: most effective? coming inside. as for theoretical positions, he does play out wide sometimes but not as much as he used to. you'll normally see chalk on doku, guardiol or grealish's boots on the the left wing with bernado, foden or walker out on the right. but we change it around so much so pretty much what i said earlier. he starts out wide but not as much as he used to. a comparison of the heatmaps shows that. he drifts inside. his 2024 heatmap shows that, his average ratings are higher when he plays inside. And to quote Guardiola this month... Having yet to deploy Foden there in his career, Guardiola claimed the midfielder has the potential to flourish in a deeper role. That is despite the 24-year-old scoring 27 goals last season and largely being seen as an attacker, either through the middle or on the wings. "When Phil plays as a right-winger, he can do it," said Guardiola. "In the beginning when he played as a left-winger, he played well. In the middle he can play right, left, in the pockets - no problem. "What I would like in the end is that he plays as a holding midfielder, or one of two holding midfielders. For that, he needs to understand the game as a whole, in everything, not just 'me'. "But at the same time, he has this instinct, natural, like the big talents, in the final third. I’m not going to stop him. I’m not going to step in and say, 'Don’t do that!' Because he’s unique." Discussing the prospect of Foden moving further back in midfield, Guardiola added: "Sometimes it is the step one has to gain as a football player, playing in that position which carries some duties for the team." Right i best get back to earning a living developing software. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10366 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 2 minutes ago, Dr Gloom said: dare i say it, but he reminds a lot of shearer toward the end of his england career after his legs went. he doesn't have much pace, he doesn't press anymore, he doesn't make runs in behind so when he isn't scoring he can look like a passenger. and, like with shearer, his goal record combined with the fact he's england captain leave his manager unwilling to sub him when he's having a bad game - even though we have strikers on the bench with pace who could come on and stretch the game. if that header went in maybe we wouldn't be having this conversation Na, I think we would because despite that he was well below his standard last night. I always think he looks shite in an England shirt when he isn't scoring because England don't play to his strengths IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeAdmirer 1283 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 16 minutes ago, wykikitoon said: But thing is, I only see the retard when someone quotes it. Block is wondeful You check every one of my posts wussy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Tbf Baddiel has a point here. Which leaves only one conclusion; it’s the fuckin coach who can’t find a way to do it If he can’t do it, Foden should be dropped and Gordon or Eze should start… Edited June 17 by PaddockLad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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