acrossthepond 878 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Horrendous. Time to ring the changes against Denmark. Take "Trent" out back and shoot him, start Watkins ahead of Kane, and have a quick word with Foden that if he doesn't shape up he'll be back to selling K out the back of a caravan in Oldham before long. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46016 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Give Ange the job. Turn international tournaments into one big danger wank. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dazzler 10366 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Well that was fucking dreadful. This is going to be awful once we play an actual good team. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6782 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 You lot wanting Watkins or Toney to start ahead of Kane. LOLZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Kane tbf to him was in a wrestling match for most of it. I would have taken him off sometime second half to mix it up though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33820 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 11 minutes ago, Gemmill said: Give Ange the job. Turn international tournaments into one big danger wank. 'Aw, mates, you're afraid of your own shadows.' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ayatollah Hermione 14045 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Can’t get over his subs there tbh. After Gallagher anyway. The bloke is the kind of bloke who would pick Health and Safety regulations as his Mastermind specialist subject 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 My bet came in!! I had £5 on Harry Kane completing 4 dribbles. Bet came in when he was halfway through singing the National Anthem. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Carr's Gloves 3961 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I watched the Denmark vs Slovenia game and they are nothing to worry about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howmanheyman 33820 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Is this England team/squad better than the sum of it's parts? If not then then that's on the management I'm afraid. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Whitehurst 931 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Howmanheyman said: Is this England team/squad better than the sum of it's parts? If not then then that's on the management I'm afraid. It’s an easy group and the quality of our players will take us to the later stages at which point the deficiency of our management/tactics will let us down. Then we’ll all get over it quickly because we don’t really give a fuck about international football. So long as none of our players get injured, I’ll consider it a successful tournament. Edited June 16 by Billy Whitehurst 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35568 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Holden McGroin said: You lot wanting Watkins or Toney to start ahead of Kane. LOLZ. I thought that, especially in relation to the service he had and the role he had to play for the team, he did a great job second half. For his one chance he did pretty much everything right and was thwarted by a top class save. Some of his hold-up play where no team mate was within about 40 yards of him and he had to win a foul holding off about 3 defenders was brilliant. He was the least of the team’s attacking issues after the break Edited June 16 by Alex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayvin 5294 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 I'm sorry like but I cannot stand England. I watched this one, thought maybe would take the risk after skipping the last few to avoid being put to sleep permanently through boredom. But I see we are still the same. Why won't we just fucking try. Howe would be so much better than Southgate it's actually obscene. They can fuck off though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Gloom 22142 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Typical Southgate performance. All the attacking players he could have brought on to try to regain control of the game after Serbia had a go in the second half and he brings on Gallagher and Mainoo, effectively leaving us with three defensive midfielders on the pitch for the final 5-10 mins. It’s no wonder we dropped deeper and deeper. We have the quality to take control of games and dispatch the weaker sides but for all the talk of being brave, it was a typically negative mindset from the manager. Trent clearly isn’t a CM btw. He can spray it around nicely but he gave it away far too cheaply to play that position against the better sides. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 35568 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 Thing is with TAA, he could be very good in that position, because of his attributes, but he hadn’t played there anything like enough. He could probably do with a season playing there in the PL first. It’s so different playing a lot of the game with your back to goal compared to RB, where all the okay is usually in front of you. Not just that but there’s less time and space in the middle of the park. What’s weird is Southgate is normally so cautious, and it seems like an unnecessary gamble. Especially as Mainoo would be tailor made for that role alongside Rice. No t tye end of the world by any means. 3 points on the board is obviously the main thing. That was a desperately uninspiring second half display though. Especially the complete inability to string two or three passes together. Fabregas was spot in re : Foden bottling it and and trying to play killer 30 yard balls instead of hanging into possession Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strawb 4378 Posted June 16 Share Posted June 16 1 hour ago, acrossthepond said: Horrendous. Time to ring the changes against Denmark. Take "Trent" out back and shoot him, start Watkins ahead of Kane, and have a quick word with Foden that if he doesn't shape up he'll be back to selling K out the back of a caravan in Oldham before long. I know this is a joke. It Oldham is miles away from Stockport, where Foden is from and lives. Regards 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
acrossthepond 878 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 12.6 miles. In the States they call that "next door." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaddockLad 17643 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 16 minutes ago, acrossthepond said: 12.6 miles. In the States they call that "next door." Spent all last weekend at my cousin’s, basically where the M60 is indicated on the map. They're all no more than a 10 minute drive from each other but were formerly independent towns before “conurbanisation” … Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gemmill 46016 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 (edited) Lewis Hall might be looking at a full England call up next year if he continues his form for us. If Luke Shaw is it, followed by a right back, there's a clear opportunity for him. Edited June 17 by Gemmill 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Listened to TalkSport on my commute in. It was pretty sensible as the alcho Brazil wasn't on. They said it how it was pretty much. Decent first half, but second half boring and Southgate isn't proactive enough. The shit Foden is getting IMO is a little harsh on him. He had a poor game by his standards, but I also this a lot of that is down to what is a) asked of him by his managed and b) how our midfield is set up. One caller said he isn't brave. That's horse shit. He spent most of last season getting the fuck kicked out of him. He is targeted a lot because of his size and he isn't phased by it. When you have Sir Trent and Batty Rice in midfield what are we expecting? We spent a lot of the first 15 minutes passing from side to side. Fine lets find our feet, but we have players like Foden who can push forward. Foden likes the ball played into him when he has players tight on him, but we didn't pass it then. Kane btw in the first half touched the ball twice! Second half he did his job well, but I also think him dropping deeper invited their back line higher up the pitch too. We got the win that's the most important thing. But against a better side we will struggle IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6782 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 England got the win. It wasn’t a particularly inspiring performance and the team will change as we go. As I’ve said before the team that flies out the traps never really wins it. Im sure if they win every game win 1-0 then the nation will be delighted (bar Wykiki wanting us to play like Brazil 1970). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wykikitoon 20712 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Its not about wanting to play like Brazil. Its about taking your opportunity. We clearly had and have the better players and they're hamstrung by Southgates reluctance to use them as they are for club. Media all banging on how between Foden, Bellingham, Kane etc we have over 100 goals this season. That means fuck all with Southgate as he's the sort of cunt who goes on Millionaire and cashes out at £100. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toonpack 9918 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 Want 😂 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holden McGroin 6782 Posted June 17 Share Posted June 17 I’m just going to throw this one out there. It might be a bit left field but stay with me…..maybe the players aren’t as good as the media thinks. We’ve heard it so many times over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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